OCCUPY WALL STREET - Spreading

VV97517VV97517 Posts: 35
edited July 2012 in A Moving Train
All in all it's no one's fault. Excuses turn to carbon walls.
Blame it all on chemical intercourse.
The swallowed seas of arrogance breathing in the thoughts of ten
thousand fools defy irreverence

The full moon is dead skin. The one down here's wearing thin.
So set up the ten pins as the human tide rolls in.
Like a ball that's spinning.

Bombs dropping down overhead. On the ground.
It's instilled to want to live.
Bombs dropping down. Please forget our hometown in our insignificance.

"Turn the jukebox up," he said. Dancing in irreverence.
Plays C3. Let the song protest.

The plates begin to shift. Perfect lefts come rolling in.
I was alone and far away.. ..ay. When I heard the band start playing.
On a lip, late take off.

Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground.
It's instilled to want to live.
Bombs dropping down. Please forgive our hometown in our insignificance.

Feel like resonance of distance. In the blood the iron lies.

It's instilled to want to live.
Bombs dropping down. Please forget our hometown in our insignificance.
Oh, in our insignificance, oh.
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  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Is this code about the white Backspacer vinyls?? :lol:
  • drsluggo wrote:
    Is this code about the white Backspacer vinyls?? :lol:

    No about the $70 2 and half disc blu-ray. :lol:
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    I wish I could attend one of these protests but I live in Canada. Kick ass my fellow brave Americans and stay safe.
  • Ignorance is bliss friends.
  • joebotjoebot Posts: 372
    VV97517 wrote:
    All in all it's no one's fault. Excuses turn to carbon walls.
    Blame it all on chemical intercourse.
    The swallowed seas of arrogance breathing in the thoughts of ten
    thousand fools defy irreverence

    The full moon is dead skin. The one down here's wearing thin.
    So set up the ten pins as the human tide rolls in.
    Like a ball that's spinning.

    Bombs dropping down overhead. On the ground.
    It's instilled to want to live.
    Bombs dropping down. Please forget our hometown in our insignificance.

    "Turn the jukebox up," he said. Dancing in irreverence.
    Plays C3. Let the song protest.


    The plates begin to shift. Perfect lefts come rolling in.
    I was alone and far away.. ..ay. When I heard the band start playing.
    On a lip, late take off.

    Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground.
    It's instilled to want to live.
    Bombs dropping down. Please forgive our hometown in our insignificance.

    Feel like resonance of distance. In the blood the iron lies.

    It's instilled to want to live.
    Bombs dropping down. Please forget our hometown in our insignificance.
    Oh, in our insignificance, oh.

    Wow, those lyrics read really well !
  • blindmuleblindmule Albany, NY Posts: 138
    This is a pretty amazing and dynamic occurrence and NO major media is covering this.
    This weekend should be pretty telling in terms of the # of people that show up. Big marches are happening in a few major cities but NYC this weekend might be big.

    I hope something comes of it but I have become skeptical and pessimistic in my old age. The media will ignore it because they are all funded with corporate $, this country needs MAJOR reform but I fear it will never happen and the divide between the wealthy 1% and the rest of us will just continue to grow.

    Both side of the coin - Republicans and Democrats should be ashamed of the direction this country is moving in.
  • STT757STT757 Posts: 302
    These folks are doing nothing but hasseling middle class workers in the financial industry, the CEO's aren't being bothered. Now they're moving on to hasseling the NYPD, who have probably one of the hardest jobs anywhere. These folks need to get a life.
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    IF THEY get in my way again on monday..someone is getting slapped...bunch of dirty hippies

    the wall st. honcho's are laughing at them from 5 blocks away
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • VV97517VV97517 Posts: 35
    These last few post shows the divide that we are facing.

    Good luck to all.
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,991
    There does seem to be a lack of media coverage. I'm a stone's throw from NYC, and all I've heard is that some protesters were arrested and bridge traffic was disrupted.

    My impression is that the protesters suffer from a lack of a clear purpose/ unified vision. Will they be able to make a difference? I don't know. I think our country should give some thought to how the ongoing economic problems are affecting young people -- no good can come from having twentysomethings persistently unemployed and/or underemployed.

    A handful of people in this country control the money and the power; I doubt that they care about the protesters or about any of us. I'm lucky; my family is doing relatively well. On the other hand, our savings have been hammered yet again by the latest market downturn, and my husband and I are worrying that, despite saving and investing conscientiously, we will not be able to pay for college. We suspect that the bankers will receive their bonuses despite losing a big chunk of our savings again. :evil:
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    There does seem to be a lack of media coverage. I'm a stone's throw from NYC, and all I've heard is that some protesters were arrested and bridge traffic was disrupted.

    My impression is that the protesters suffer from a lack of a clear purpose/ unified vision. Will they be able to make a difference? I don't know. I think our country should give some thought to how the ongoing economic problems are affecting young people -- no good can come from having twentysomethings persistently unemployed and/or underemployed.

    A handful of people in this country control the money and the power; I doubt that they care about the protesters or about any of us. I'm lucky; my family is doing relatively well. On the other hand, our savings have been hammered yet again by the latest market downturn, and my husband and I are worrying that, despite saving and investing conscientiously, we will not be able to pay for college. We suspect that the bankers will receive their bonuses despite losing a big chunk of our savings again. :evil:


    they are 5 blocks from wall st...all the billionaires are laughing at them ....while the average working guy like myself is getting his commute jammed up with these clowns
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • blindmuleblindmule Albany, NY Posts: 138
    REALLY!?
    These folks are trying to make a point here and all you can do is threaten to slap them and say nasty things... Pretty sad to me.

    I know alot of folks - hard working folks at that - that have been going there on their days off work and joining the protests so they are not all "dirty hippies" as you so eloquently put it.

    But hey, if you get off on doing nothing but complaining about people using their American right (one of the few truly powerful and real rights we have left) to protest the inequalities in this country then, hey, enjoy it... and if things don't change soon and our unemployment rate continues to rise and our national deficit continues to grow maybe those wall street folks will kick you a few bucks when you are begging for change in Times Square.
    There does seem to be a lack of media coverage. I'm a stone's throw from NYC, and all I've heard is that some protesters were arrested and bridge traffic was disrupted.

    My impression is that the protesters suffer from a lack of a clear purpose/ unified vision. Will they be able to make a difference? I don't know. I think our country should give some thought to how the ongoing economic problems are affecting young people -- no good can come from having twentysomethings persistently unemployed and/or underemployed.

    A handful of people in this country control the money and the power; I doubt that they care about the protesters or about any of us. I'm lucky; my family is doing relatively well. On the other hand, our savings have been hammered yet again by the latest market downturn, and my husband and I are worrying that, despite saving and investing conscientiously, we will not be able to pay for college. We suspect that the bankers will receive their bonuses despite losing a big chunk of our savings again. :evil:


    they are 5 blocks from wall st...all the billionaires are laughing at them ....while the average working guy like myself is getting his commute jammed up with these clowns
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    Do these people even have a common message? I've read articles where reporters ask them what they are protesting. Answers range from "greed", "the man", "wall st", "wars", "our system", etc...
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    There does seem to be a lack of media coverage. I'm a stone's throw from NYC, and all I've heard is that some protesters were arrested and bridge traffic was disrupted.

    My impression is that the protesters suffer from a lack of a clear purpose/ unified vision. Will they be able to make a difference? I don't know. I think our country should give some thought to how the ongoing economic problems are affecting young people -- no good can come from having twentysomethings persistently unemployed and/or underemployed.

    A handful of people in this country control the money and the power; I doubt that they care about the protesters or about any of us. I'm lucky; my family is doing relatively well. On the other hand, our savings have been hammered yet again by the latest market downturn, and my husband and I are worrying that, despite saving and investing conscientiously, we will not be able to pay for college. We suspect that the bankers will receive their bonuses despite losing a big chunk of our savings again. :evil:


    they are 5 blocks from wall st...all the billionaires are laughing at them ....while the average working guy like myself is getting his commute jammed up with these clowns

    They are laying their asses on the line for YOU and all you can do is complain about your minor inconvenience....unbelievable.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    Better Dan wrote:
    Do these people even have a common message? I've read articles where reporters ask them what they are protesting. Answers range from "greed", "the man", "wall st", "wars", "our system", etc...

    Yes



    Official Statement from Occupy Wall Street - this statement was voted on and approved by the general assembly of protesters at Liberty Square: Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

    As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

    As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

    They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

    They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

    They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

    They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

    They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices.

    They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

    They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

    They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

    They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

    They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

    They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

    They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.

    They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

    They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

    They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them.

    They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

    They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit.

    They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

    They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

    They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

    They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.

    They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

    They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.*

    To the people of the world,

    We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

    Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

    To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

    Join us and make your voices heard!

    *These grievances are not all-inclusive.
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    blindmule wrote:
    REALLY!?
    These folks are trying to make a point here and all you can do is threaten to slap them and say nasty things... Pretty sad to me.

    I know alot of folks - hard working folks at that - that have been going there on their days off work and joining the protests so they are not all "dirty hippies" as you so eloquently put it.

    But hey, if you get off on doing nothing but complaining about people using their American right (one of the few truly powerful and real rights we have left) to protest the inequalities in this country then, hey, enjoy it... and if things don't change soon and our unemployment rate continues to rise and our national deficit continues to grow maybe those wall street folks will kick you a few bucks when you are begging for change in Times Square.
    There does seem to be a lack of media coverage. I'm a stone's throw from NYC, and all I've heard is that some protesters were arrested and bridge traffic was disrupted.

    My impression is that the protesters suffer from a lack of a clear purpose/ unified vision. Will they be able to make a difference? I don't know. I think our country should give some thought to how the ongoing economic problems are affecting young people -- no good can come from having twentysomethings persistently unemployed and/or underemployed.

    A handful of people in this country control the money and the power; I doubt that they care about the protesters or about any of us. I'm lucky; my family is doing relatively well. On the other hand, our savings have been hammered yet again by the latest market downturn, and my husband and I are worrying that, despite saving and investing conscientiously, we will not be able to pay for college. We suspect that the bankers will receive their bonuses despite losing a big chunk of our savings again. :evil:


    they are 5 blocks from wall st...all the billionaires are laughing at them ....while the average working guy like myself is getting his commute jammed up with these clowns


    they are accomplishing nothing.....they are too far away from wall st to begin with (the millionaires could care less what they are saying)
    like i said they are just fucking the middle class working people like myself

    so yes if they stick a sign in my face or start dancing around me to day while i wait for my bus....they are getting mushed
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    dignin wrote:
    There does seem to be a lack of media coverage. I'm a stone's throw from NYC, and all I've heard is that some protesters were arrested and bridge traffic was disrupted.

    My impression is that the protesters suffer from a lack of a clear purpose/ unified vision. Will they be able to make a difference? I don't know. I think our country should give some thought to how the ongoing economic problems are affecting young people -- no good can come from having twentysomethings persistently unemployed and/or underemployed.

    A handful of people in this country control the money and the power; I doubt that they care about the protesters or about any of us. I'm lucky; my family is doing relatively well. On the other hand, our savings have been hammered yet again by the latest market downturn, and my husband and I are worrying that, despite saving and investing conscientiously, we will not be able to pay for college. We suspect that the bankers will receive their bonuses despite losing a big chunk of our savings again. :evil:


    they are 5 blocks from wall st...all the billionaires are laughing at them ....while the average working guy like myself is getting his commute jammed up with these clowns

    They are laying their asses on the line for YOU and all you can do is complain about your minor inconvenience....unbelievable.


    nobody is paying attention to them...so why waste time and space

    im fine..they can help others


    the cops will continue to beat them and at this rate someone is gonna get severly hurt
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • halvhalv Posts: 701
    Any freedom or benefit that you currently enjoy in your life is do to some brave group of people in the past who stood up to corruption. Movements and social change take time, especially when you are fighting the violently powerful and corrupt, but demonstrations like this are the catalyst to change. It may take time but it will happen.
  • GD274660GD274660 Posts: 514
    like i said they are just fucking the middle class working people like myself

    Yea, it's PROTESTERS fucking you over, not Wall Street.

    Your attitude is part of the problem.
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  • these people are a bunch of fuckin losers. get out of my way and get a job you hobo hippe !
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    how come we never see you guys post on the AMT!? ... :lol:

    as for the protest ... better late than never i suppose ...
  • BantBant Millinowhere, ME Posts: 506
    these people are a bunch of fuckin losers. get out of my way and get a job you hobo hippe !

    Therein lies the problem. There are no jobs to be had, thus one of the reasons for the protesting.
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  • dignin wrote:
    Better Dan wrote:
    Do these people even have a common message? I've read articles where reporters ask them what they are protesting. Answers range from "greed", "the man", "wall st", "wars", "our system", etc...

    Yes



    Official Statement from Occupy Wall Street - this statement was voted on and approved by the general assembly of protesters at Liberty Square: Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

    As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

    As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

    They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

    They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

    They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

    They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

    They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices.

    They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

    They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

    They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

    They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

    They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

    They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

    They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.

    They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

    They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

    They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them.

    They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

    They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit.

    They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

    They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

    They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

    They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.

    They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

    They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.*

    To the people of the world,

    We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

    Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

    To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

    Join us and make your voices heard!

    *These grievances are not all-inclusive.


    WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Our country is dying and people are sick of all the shit going on!!! It's about time we started to stand up and say NO MORE!!!!..........then you have idiots complaining that their commute is being held up?? fucking clueless dumbed down American idiots!!
  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    None of the people protesting have a concise message - a press release was written for it, but no one really knows what they are out there for.

    Its either anti-wall street, anti-rich people, anti-republicans, anti-housing prices, anti-health care issues, etc, etc.

    Here's an idea - go "occupy" washington since they have more power to do something about wall street but won't because, get this, both parties are in bed with rich corporations.

    Any regulations that would be passed by Washington would be catered to the billionaires wishes anyway, meaning the regulations would just hurt small businesses who wouldnt be able to afford ways to get around them like big companies can and do.

    But more importantly... are we at a point on this board where you can post 100% political threads and attach some random PJ lyric to it to try to make it relevant to the "porch" forum?!?
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    these people are a bunch of fuckin losers. get out of my way and get a job you hobo hippe !


    exactly..instead of standing there all day for 3 weeks..go look for a job
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    GD274660 wrote:
    like i said they are just fucking the middle class working people like myself

    Yea, it's PROTESTERS fucking you over, not Wall Street.

    Your attitude is part of the problem.


    if it wasn't for wall street..i wouldn't have a job
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • BantBant Millinowhere, ME Posts: 506
    drsluggo wrote:
    But more importantly... are we at a point on this board where you can post 100% political threads and attach some random PJ lyric to it to try to make it relevant to the "porch" forum?!?

    Yeah, that's more important. :roll:
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  • these people are a bunch of fuckin losers. get out of my way and get a job you hobo hippe !


    exactly..instead of standing there all day for 3 weeks..go look for a job


    you clowns should move to China....it's obvious you have no fucking clue what it means to be American.
  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Bant wrote:
    drsluggo wrote:
    But more importantly... are we at a point on this board where you can post 100% political threads and attach some random PJ lyric to it to try to make it relevant to the "porch" forum?!?

    Yeah, that's more important. :roll:
    You can roll your eyes all you want... just do it on the forum on this board thats setup for politics. This has NOTHING to do with PJ... if we're going to start playing 'six degrees of kevin bacon' to make posts relevant to PJ, then the porch is going to be 1/2 political threads and 1/2 backspacer vinyl threads.

    Seriously - I avoid AMT because people on both sides can be so unreasonable on there and arguing politics on the internet is probably the most pointless exercise in the world. But its there and I'm guessing already has threads about this all over the place.

    Occupy Wall Street? OCCUPY AMT, PLEASE! :lol::lol::lol:
  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    these people are a bunch of fuckin losers. get out of my way and get a job you hobo hippe !


    exactly..instead of standing there all day for 3 weeks..go look for a job


    you clowns should move to China....it's obvious you have no fucking clue what it means to be American.
    Isn't there a way to protest that doesn't inconvenience people that are going to their jobs that have no power to make any changes? I mean... I'm all for protesting, and I think the best protests you can make are at the voting booth, but if you're going to get a huge gathering it should be done in a way that doesn't make it rough for people that are in the area or the police who have to make sure things don't get out of hand.

    You can't protest wall street while picking fights with police or screaming at people that are working entry level jobs at wall street companies and be effective.
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