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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,133
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
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    Actually, you're reading into what I was saying. I don't think either way makes a difference. I disagree with those that say you need a political background. We just need someone that knows what they're doing.

    Obama was a bad choice for President (Which is proving prescient). Even if he had been a career politician that would have been true. (unfortunately, McCain would have been a bad choice, too - and therein lies the problem. Why eliminate a non-politician of that simple reason).
    i agree with you. both were terrible choices.
    i think the point i am trying to make is a president has to be politically savvy. it takes a whole different form of savvy to be successful in business. the goals of business are different than the goals of being a politically savvy president. in business you have to act in your own interest and the interest of the company. in politics you have to juggle so many different variables and even the smallest detail, a wrong word used, and accent on the wrong word in a sentence, i mean anything at all can piss off any number of people in the world. it can alienate allies. and you have to be as willing to fight for peace and make sacrifices to insure peace as you do to commit to a war. you have to have a smoothness. look at clinton. that man had political savvy. bush didn't. his dad didn't. obama has a little savvy, but not enough to get his own party to support him, but he is well respected in the world.
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  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    how does being a businessman prepare someone for how to handle foreign policy issues like wars and potential human rights violations and dealing with the countries in the UN?


    Well he has people behind the scenes writing things... he just won't tell you who they are.
  • Posts: 19,309
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
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    i thought someone having "no experience" was a bad thing??????

    if it is not a bad thing, then what was all that criticism of obama being inexperienced then???

    oh that's right, that was 3 years ago and times have changed...back then it was easier to argue that than to argue against the man's vision and what he wanted to accomplish...
    That's a good point to bring up as Obama's political leadership experience was a weakness that the GOP attacked in the last election cycle and it does seem hypocritical to flaunt Cain's lack of political experience as an asset four years later.

    However, a lot of the public has turned against the notion of career politicians in the last election cycle. What was once perceived as a weakness (lack of political experience) is now an asset ... pending it is replaced with strong background in successful business experience.
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  • Posts: 5,531
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i agree with you. both were terrible choices.
    i think the point i am trying to make is a president has to be politically savvy. it takes a whole different form of savvy to be successful in business. the goals of business are different than the goals of being a politically savvy president. in business you have to act in your own interest and the interest of the company. in politics you have to juggle so many different variables and even the smallest detail, a wrong word used, and accent on the wrong word in a sentence, i mean anything at all can piss off any number of people in the world. it can alienate allies. and you have to be as willing to fight for peace and make sacrifices to insure peace as you do to commit to a war. you have to have a smoothness. look at clinton. that man had political savvy. bush didn't. his dad didn't. obama has a little savvy, but not enough to get his own party to support him, but he is well respected in the world.

    I don't see the 2 as so terribly different. In both cases you're main interest is your own company (country). In both instances, you must learn to speak other people's languages to get them to do what you think is right. A single wrong word could mean the death of a business deal. So, while yes, the details are different, the skills are basically the same.

    And, Obama has the "respect" of the world because he's a wimp. He's naivety in regard to Israel is all you need to know. Don't mistake circling vultures as respect. They believe they can "have" him. So, they cut him extra slack. The moment he actually makes a difficult decision, that "respect" will disappear. Everyone likes you when you're doing what they want.
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  • Posts: 16,837
    Jason P wrote:
    That's a good point to bring up as Obama's political leadership experience was a weakness that the GOP attacked in the last election cycle and it does seem hypocritical to flaunt Cain's lack of political experience as an asset four years later.


    This is true of some. Personally I was hopeful about the lack of Washington experience with Obama.

    And I like a business man running for political office. Sure some things are different about politics and business but that is a good thing. Do we really want people in the machine to try and change the direction of the machine?

    I've only softened my stance a little as I think you need to have a mixture of experienced Washington politicians (or staffers at the very least) and newbies.
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  • Posts: 4,741
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/fjelstud/herman ... om-simcity

    Herman Cain Stole His “9-9-9” Plan From SimCity

    Politics Buzz According to the Republican presidential candidate's revolutionary plan, corporate income taxes, personal income taxes, and national sales tax rates would each be 9%. Seems smart and original, right? Wrong. Reporters have unearthed an astonishing similarity between Cain's 9-9-9 Plan and SimCity 4's default tax scheme.

    check the link for more... :lol:
  • Posts: 5,531
    inmytree wrote:
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/fjelstud/herman-cain-stole-his-9-9-9-plan-from-simcity

    Herman Cain Stole His “9-9-9” Plan From SimCity

    Politics Buzz According to the Republican presidential candidate's revolutionary plan, corporate income taxes, personal income taxes, and national sales tax rates would each be 9%. Seems smart and original, right? Wrong. Reporters have unearthed an astonishing similarity between Cain's 9-9-9 Plan and SimCity 4's default tax scheme.

    check the link for more... :lol:

    Cool. Finally something the younger generation can understand how it works in action rather than falling for Hopey/Changey.
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  • Posts: 9,561
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
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    Cool. Finally something the younger generation can understand how it works in action rather than falling for Hopey/Changey.

    Do people understand how it works in action? It would hit the working poor hard, and there doesn't seem to be much consensus on how much revenue his plan would bring in.
  • Posts: 1,018
    I believe you either have a sales tax, and no income tax, or you have income tax and no sales tax. You can't have both, that is ridiculous. A fixed rate sales tax would be a fine fit for everyone as I've said before. That way even drug lords and prostitutes are paying their taxes anytime they buy something. Keep life essentials tax fee (i.e. clothing, food, and health care products), and cut the tax rate on gas as well. That way it doesn't effect the poor. They'd have more tax revenue than they knew what to do with....but I'm sure they'd find something to spend it all on.
  • Posts: 11,855
    http://atlantapost.com/2011/05/25/a-rea ... rman-cain/

    “Cain clearly believes that his pro-business message is what GOP voters want to hear. So much so, in fact, that on Saturday he officially unveiled his candidacy for the 2012 GOP nomination. But scrubbed from Cain’s official story is his long tenure as a director at a Midwest energy corporation named Aquila that, like the infamous Enron Corporation, recklessly drove into the wild west of energy trading and speculation – and ultimately screwed its employees out of tens of millions of dollars,”


    anyone hear more about this? This was brought to my attention today
  • Posts: 4,695
    Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain shot down the efforts of the protesters Thursday, telling them to "go home and get a job and a life" while speaking to a crowd in Arkansas.
    Lol

    "Nobody knows what their cause is," Cain said
    Cain also had harsh words for the left in general during the campaign stop, saying "the American dream has been hijacked" by liberals, "but we can take it back."
    This isn't the first time Cain has blasted the Occupy protests. In a Wall Street Journal interview from early October, Cain said the protesters who don't have jobs have no one to blame but themselves:
    "I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself! ... It is not a person's fault if they succeeded, it is a person's fault if they failed."
    Cain -- who has often noted his own early days of poverty, saying "I was 'po' before I was 'poor'" -- now has an estimated net worth of somewhere between $2.9 million and $6.8 million, according to recently certified financial disclosure forms.

    WOOT for some of the real!
  • Posts: 1,076
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain shot down the efforts of the protesters Thursday, telling them to "go home and get a job and a life" while speaking to a crowd in Arkansas.
    Lol

    "Nobody knows what their cause is," Cain said
    Cain also had harsh words for the left in general during the campaign stop, saying "the American dream has been hijacked" by liberals, "but we can take it back."
    This isn't the first time Cain has blasted the Occupy protests. In a Wall Street Journal interview from early October, Cain said the protesters who don't have jobs have no one to blame but themselves:
    "I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself! ... It is not a person's fault if they succeeded, it is a person's fault if they failed."
    Cain -- who has often noted his own early days of poverty, saying "I was 'po' before I was 'poor'" -- now has an estimated net worth of somewhere between $2.9 million and $6.8 million, according to recently certified financial disclosure forms.

    WOOT for some of the real!

    Classic.
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  • Posts: 9,087
    cincybearcat wrote:
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    What is wrong with shortened bills?

    And you take stuff too literal, 3 pages is just randomly picked. It is just a reference to the out of control bills that no one reads except 1-2 staffers. Of all things to not like Cain over, I have no idea why anyone would make this one.


    Maybe it's because he's black. :o See, now both parties can play the same bs game.

    Then the average joe could or would have time to read them...unable to confuse the masses.

    After seeing what's going on in Michigan with how 1 billionaire can hold up the construction of an international crossing that both Democratic and Republican Governors have supported, I'd pretty much say you are owned by corporate America no matter whether you vote Democrat or Republican...very sad.
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  • up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i do like me some Godfather's pizza. when mom and dad were getting and had gotten divorced, us boys and dad had, "boys night out." we always went out for pizza. that was some good ass pizza. turns out this dude's running for the presidency. i best check him out. from what i've seen so far he is honest and has a sense of humor and isn't a carreer politician. he should become a 10c member and post with the other comedians on here. pandora says jb makes one hell of a pizza.

    jb for president, yes/no? :mrgreen:
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  • Posts: 12,225
    usamamasan1 wrote:
          Long cut and paste attached for those who want to learn something today...             What a contrast to the teleprompter reading Obama.

      
     He’s  not a career politician (in fact he has never held political office). He’s known as a pizza guy, but there’s a lot more to him. He’s also a computer guy, a banker guy, and a rocket scientist guy.
    Here’s his bio:
    Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
    Master’s degree in Computer Science.
    Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).
    Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.
    VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation).
    All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!
    Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.
    Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.
    In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.
    He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side.
    Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!
    Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.
    Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.
    After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!
    Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.
    Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).
    He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking—
    STACK THAT  UP AGAINST THE 'COMMUNITY ORGANIZER'....
    Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century.
    ...
    Despite all that... he can't read a bill that is longer than three pages!!!???
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  • Posts: 7,446
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    "I don't have facts to back this up
    I don't have the facts to back this up, but Eddie Vedder once had sex with Bill Clinton.
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  • up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Despite all that... he can't read a bill that is longer than three pages!!!???
    i myself could not make it through one entire page let alone three whole pages. that is asking alot out of anyone. each paragraph or even each sentence would need broken down and repeated many times. stopping for a drink of water, peeing, walking, standing, music-record needs restarted or turned over, phone rings, im boil water for a pot of tea, and a two mile swim by 10am. lots of shit goin on, the dude's makin pizza
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Looks like the Cain train is about to derail as he was accused of sexual harassment.
  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,133
    unsung wrote:
    Looks like the Cain train is about to derail as he was accused of sexual harassment.
    yeah i saw that. i was not expecting that to happen.

    crazy...
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Posts: 7,446
    unsung wrote:
    Looks like the Cain train is about to derail as he was accused of sexual harassment.
    I love how the guy that starts a statement with "I don't have the facts to back this up" is now claiming the media is publishing unsubstantiated claims.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V

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