WHY!? dont people like riot act?

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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    tremors wrote:
    I'm partly in the gang, and partly out of it. I love No Code, like Riot Act, but Binaural is my least favourite album - I love all the 90s albums plus riot act and backspacer - but I think you're probably right that I am out of step with this board on the post-2000 albums - liking riot act and backspacer and disliking Avocado and Binaural :shock: I don't know either - I just know what I like ;) If I had to explain it, I would probably say the main factor is the quality of the songwriting on the albums I dislike :(

    No one can tell you what you like or dislike; that's a given!

    Does this mean I can keep listening to Riot Act and Backspacer? Cool!
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,218
    the strangest thing happened to me last week with Riot Act and Avocado.
    Riot Act used to be my least favorite (but I still love it), but after listening to these two back to back, I realized how much I love many of the songs on RA, and how flat Avocado sounded to me. It pushed avocado into last place (still like most of it though ;) ).
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  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,183
    Im not saying it's wrong, but anyone who does not like riot act, cannot be trusted, i've decided :D (btw, binaural had it all, uniqueness/solidness .. can't beat that with a stick ;) )
  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    tremors wrote:
    tremors wrote:
    I'm partly in the gang, and partly out of it. I love No Code, like Riot Act, but Binaural is my least favourite album - I love all the 90s albums plus riot act and backspacer - but I think you're probably right that I am out of step with this board on the post-2000 albums - liking riot act and backspacer and disliking Avocado and Binaural :shock: I don't know either - I just know what I like ;) If I had to explain it, I would probably say the main factor is the quality of the songwriting on the albums I dislike :(

    No one can tell you what you like or dislike; that's a given!

    Does this mean I can keep listening to Riot Act and Backspacer? Cool!

    Only as long as I can keep listening to No Code and Binaural. If not, no deal.
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051

    Only as long as I can keep listening to No Code and Binaural. If not, no deal.

    You can listen to No Code for the rest of your days. Binaural you're allowed one more year, and then it goes in the bin.
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    Fahka wrote:
    Im not saying it's wrong, but anyone who does not like riot act, cannot be trusted, i've decided :D

    :lol:

    Yes, you are onto something there.

    Although at this point, the tide will no doubt turn against me, and I'll be ostracised by the board for hating on Binaural.

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  • Lizardjam
    Lizardjam Posts: 1,121
    tremors wrote:
    abhijeet wrote:
    To me, it's just odd that the album is so disliked. Riot Act is in my Top 4 PJ albums - Ten, Vs, Vitalogy and Riot Act. I am not a fan of No Code or Binaural.

    It's funny how you say it's odd for people to dislike Riot Act so much, and then you turn around and say that you're not a fan of No Code and Binaural. Did you really just do that??

    To the rest of us, it's odd that you are not a fan of No Code or Binaural! lol

    Binaural is, objectively speaking, Pearl Jam's worst album ;)


    edit - meaning, I am not part of this 'rest of us' your describe!

    Binaural is my least favorite album of Pearl Jam's. I love Riot Act.
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  • love-boat-captain
    love-boat-captain Essex. UK Posts: 476
    Riot is good, i prefer it to Avocado which is my least fav as I just don't think it's as exciting or challenging as any of the others. But I agree on the comment about Ed's vocals... man, could've been so much better if he opened his mouth lol.

    I don;t think many people would say No Code is their best album and neither do I think it's their best but it is my fav.
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  • abhijeet
    abhijeet Posts: 303
    abhijeet wrote:
    To me, it's just odd that the album is so disliked. Riot Act is in my Top 4 PJ albums - Ten, Vs, Vitalogy and Riot Act. I am not a fan of No Code or Binaural.

    It's funny how you say it's odd for people to dislike Riot Act so much, and then you turn around and say that you're not a fan of No Code and Binaural. Did you really just do that??

    To the rest of us, it's odd that you are not a fan of No Code or Binaural! lol

    Riot Act is what No Code should have been, experimental but still rocks hard. No Code is just too much like EV's solo work and not enough like Pearl Jam.
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  • Why dont people like Riot Act?

    I can only speak for myself...

    Simple...Its a bunch of songs I dont like


    I havent listened to it in YEARS
    I will never listen to that full album again

    Oh well....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Better Dan
    Better Dan Posts: 5,684
    Why dont people like Riot Act?

    I can only speak for myself...

    Simple...Its a bunch of songs I dont like


    I havent listened to it in YEARS
    I will never listen to that full album again

    Oh well....


    I will never listen to that album with Help Help in it again. I don't even have that song on my ipod/phone with the rest of the album. And the one Riot Act song they played at Alpine 1.......Help Help!!! :roll:

    I like most of the other Riot Act songs though..at least enough to have them saved and listen to them every so often..but that album is still my least or 2nd least favorite PJ album.
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  • Jerome230
    Jerome230 Posts: 903
    Better Dan wrote:
    I will never listen to that album with Help Help in it again. I don't even have that song on my ipod/phone with the rest of the album. And the one Riot Act song they played at Alpine 1.......Help Help!!! :roll:

    I like most of the other Riot Act songs though..at least enough to have them saved and listen to them every so often..but that album is still my least or 2nd least favorite PJ album.


    I couldn't have said it better myself. It took me this long to warm up to Riot Act and I appreciate it more now than ever...but I think it will be a cold day in hell when I'll be able to stomach Help, Help. Hitchhiker, fuck, SWEET LEW is better than that song.
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  • SOLAT319
    SOLAT319 Posts: 4,609
    Riot Act=KING OF REBELLION

    So gorgeously BADASS....
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

    The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED

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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    I actually think help, help is a really cool track; one of the few standouts on that album.
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  • SOLAT319
    SOLAT319 Posts: 4,609
    edited October 2011
    Just look at these lyrics and think about what's going on right about now on a certain street in NYC:

    A think tank of aloof multiplication
    A nicotine wish and a Columbus decanter
    Retrenchment and hoggishness
    The aristocrat choir sings
    'What's the ruckus?'
    The haves have not a clue

    The immenseness of suffering
    And the odd negotiation, a rarity
    With onionskin plausibility of life,...
    And a keyboard reaffirmation

    And then think about when this song was written.....Pretty sad really but it also reveals the brilliance of one FRONTDUDE we all know. He often comes up with most clever shit you can imagine.
    Post edited by SOLAT319 on
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

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  • TroubledSoul
    TroubledSoul Posts: 1,374
    people don't like it because it's a shit album with copious amounts of boring filler.

    pretty simple really.
    Yeh I've seen Pearl Jam, too. But I can't remember the dates.
  • SOLAT319
    SOLAT319 Posts: 4,609
    people don't like it because it's a shit album with copious amounts of boring filler.

    pretty simple really.

    I really hope you get a show completely made of RIOT ACT songs next time you see Pearl Jam.
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

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  • TroubledSoul
    TroubledSoul Posts: 1,374
    SOLAT319 wrote:
    people don't like it because it's a shit album with copious amounts of boring filler.

    pretty simple really.

    I really hope you get a show completely made of RIOT ACT songs next time you see Pearl Jam.

    ive seen one. and was the worst pj gig ive been to. crowd was dead.

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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    Ahh, the exquisite Riot Act, a fine piece which seems to reserve itself for those attuned to appreciating the finer substance, subtleties, nuances, and sheer brilliance contained therein.

    The winning-touchdown-head shake in Help, Help, the drag-yourself-across-the floor sleeze in Half Full, and the African Tribal dance in Can't Keep, are not recognized by all listeneners, as hard as that is to imagine by those so intuned.
  • SOLAT319
    SOLAT319 Posts: 4,609
    Rollings wrote:
    Ahh, the exquisite Riot Act, a fine piece which seems to reserve itself for those attuned to appreciating the finer substance, subtleties, nuances, and sheer brilliance contained therein.

    The winning-touchdown-head shake in Help, Help, the drag-yourself-across-the floor sleeze in Half Full, and the African Tribal dance in Can't Keep, are not recognized by all listeneners, as hard as that is to imagine by those so intuned.

    Nicely put....
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

    The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED

    #resistgezi #resistturkey #resisttaksim #direnturkiye #direngezi
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