WHY!? dont people like riot act?

Evacuation Rules

TroubledSoul wrote:

Evacuation Rules wrote:

reedrothchild wrote:

i did only have to see get right once, but after multiple shows with cropduster, you are, and ghost the album wears on you.

You're right...it's much better to hear "Betterman" and "Corduroy" over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

it sure is. just cos they're "rare", it doesn't make them any good.

You have shitty taste.

cheesy_shredder

I fliipin love Riot Act!!!

It's the only PJ cd in my car, and it's very rarely taken off!!

I found Binaural harder to get into but ended up loving it too..... i find large parts of Back Spacer are still a bit iffy however!!

Bystander84

cheesy_shredder wrote:

I fliipin love Riot Act!!!

I found Binaural harder to get into but ended up loving it too.....

I luv Riot Act too and Im still chewing on Binaural but cannae swallow it... just Thin Air and Light Years... 1/2 full is just an amazing blues!

andriesk

I LOVE riot act, especially after the undercooked Binaural and pretty straight Yield. Can't Keep has a beautiful, odd melody and subtle sentiment, Save You is the perfect synthesis of PJs rock and punk aesthetics, Love Boat Captain always sounds better than I remember it. Then you have Green Disease, which does new wave far better than most of Backspacer, You Are which is one of my favourite tracks, Bushleaguer which has that killer chorus lyric, and I Am Mine which is everything PJ stand for distilled into three minutes.

And the Riot Act sessiobns produced Down, the best B-side since Ledbetter.

cheesy_shredder

Wow people really hate it!!

Most of the stuff sounds rushed, like they banged it out as quickly as possible.

people don't like it because it's a shit album with copious amounts of boring filler.

songs like cropduster, ghost, green disease, and bushleager are almost laughably bad.

I'm really surprised by this! To me it sounds lovingly crafted and bitter sweet, and lyrically and musically I think they are on top form!

I'm surprised there's not a bigger backlash against Backspacer as lyrically, in large parts I think, it's pretty ropey and musically is not up to scratch. This to me seemed more rushed than any album so far and Olé seems like a b-side off this project. There are still some choice tracks on there though!!

I hope this isn't the sound they carry forward, or they get better at it, whatever "it" is, but Of the Earth is rocking so I'm not too worried!

Better Dan

Evacuation Rules wrote:

You have shitty taste.

Says the guy who thinks Evacuation Rules

Seriously though, I like most of the Riot Act songs and wish they would play them more. I'm a huge fan of 1/2 Full, Green Disease, I am Mine, and You Are live. I also like Cropduster, Get Right and Thumbing my Way quite a bit...and of course Arc into All or None is pure magic! Gost is horrible though..and I'm not big on Help Help as I've already stated in this thread.

I do agree with the person that said the album sounds a bit rushed. In fact, Eddie even said they rushed through the process. I remember interviews stating that as soon as the guys had an idea, he would just quickly come up with lyrics, record it, and that was it...not a lot of time spent on analyzing or "improving" things.

DewieCox

Better Dan wrote:

I do agree with the person that said the album sounds a bit rushed. In fact, Eddie even said they rushed through the process. I remember interviews stating that as soon as the guys had an idea, he would just quickly come up with lyrics, record it, and that was it...not a lot of time spent on analyzing or "improving" things.

What's seems strange to me is that they recorded RA like that and it took them quite awhile to finish Backspacer. By listening I think most people would guess that they took their time with RA and rushed through BS.

CorduroyGirl

Hmmm... I was going to post "They don't????" but I guess by reading the thread I can see the OPs point... Huh... Whaddaya know..?

I guess I'm an easy audience, I love all albums... Backspacer took me some time to "absorb" but I love it too, now...

tremors

DewieCox wrote:

Better Dan wrote:

I do agree with the person that said the album sounds a bit rushed. In fact, Eddie even said they rushed through the process. I remember interviews stating that as soon as the guys had an idea, he would just quickly come up with lyrics, record it, and that was it...not a lot of time spent on analyzing or "improving" things.

What's seems strange to me is that they recorded RA like that and it took them quite awhile to finish Backspacer. By listening I think most people would guess that they took their time with RA and rushed through BS.

I read an article around the time of release which said something like Eddie in particular didn't want to do loads of vocal takes - but this was deliberate - he wanted to get into a particular place, record the vocal raw - and then that was the take.

From the article I read, and from listening to it - I don't think that seems a case of rushing it but rather of trying to capture something a bit real. I love Eddie's vocals on Riot Act, I really do - and the vocals have been the main thing I have always focused on in Pearl Jam's stuff, since the early days. I personally think some of the vocals on Riot Act are amongst the best we've had from EV - it's just a different side of them. Nobody else seems to think this though - so I should probably go and sit in the corner on my own.....

mfc2006

tremors wrote:

From the article I read, and from listening to it - I don't think that seems a case of rushing it but rather of trying to capture something a bit real. I love Eddie's vocals on Riot Act, I really do - and the vocals have been the main thing I have always focused on in Pearl Jam's stuff, since the early days. I personally think some of the vocals on Riot Act are amongst the best we've had from EV - it's just a different side of them. Nobody else seems to think this though - so I should probably go and sit in the corner on my own.....

i remember reading that as well. and i agree, tremors....i love Riot Act. it took a bit longer to grow on me, but i listen to it all the time. it just has a different tone to it.

DewieCox

tremors wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

Better Dan wrote:

I do agree with the person that said the album sounds a bit rushed. In fact, Eddie even said they rushed through the process. I remember interviews stating that as soon as the guys had an idea, he would just quickly come up with lyrics, record it, and that was it...not a lot of time spent on analyzing or "improving" things.

What's seems strange to me is that they recorded RA like that and it took them quite awhile to finish Backspacer. By listening I think most people would guess that they took their time with RA and rushed through BS.

I read an article around the time of release which said something like Eddie in particular didn't want to do loads of vocal takes - but this was deliberate - he wanted to get into a particular place, record the vocal raw - and then that was the take.

From the article I read, and from listening to it - I don't think that seems a case of rushing it but rather of trying to capture something a bit real. I love Eddie's vocals on Riot Act, I really do - and the vocals have been the main thing I have always focused on in Pearl Jam's stuff, since the early days. I personally think some of the vocals on Riot Act are amongst the best we've had from EV - it's just a different side of them. Nobody else seems to think this though - so I should probably go and sit in the corner on my own.....

I definitely read similar things around the release too. I think I read it in a Guitar World interview with Mike and Stone, so they had a similar plan of attack with the music too.

I think the vox can be a bit dry at times, but I think that helps give them more impact live. I generally dig the studio versions and all the intricacies they offer, but RA may be one of the few exceptions to the rule.

tremors

DewieCox wrote:

I definitely read similar things around the release too. I think I read it in a Guitar World interview with Mike and Stone, so they had a similar plan of attack with the music too.

I think the vox can be a bit dry at times, but I think that helps give them more impact live. I generally dig the studio versions and all the intricacies they offer, but RA may be one of the few exceptions to the rule.

Just been looking for the article I remember, in my house and online, because it was a good one. No joy though. It was a musician type magazine with Tom Morello on the cover (Audioslave debut), and stuff about Riot Act inside. Irritating....

(might even be the same article you read Dewie)

DewieCox

tremors wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

I definitely read similar things around the release too. I think I read it in a Guitar World interview with Mike and Stone, so they had a similar plan of attack with the music too.

I think the vox can be a bit dry at times, but I think that helps give them more impact live. I generally dig the studio versions and all the intricacies they offer, but RA may be one of the few exceptions to the rule.

Just been looking for the article I remember, in my house and online, because it was a good one. No joy though. It was a musician type magazine with Tom Morello on the cover (Audioslave debut), and stuff about Riot Act inside. Irritating....

(might even be the same article you read Dewie)

:thumbup:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=tom+more ... 113&ty=124

I've still got too many of these laying around.

tremors

DewieCox wrote:

tremors wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

I definitely read similar things around the release too. I think I read it in a Guitar World interview with Mike and Stone, so they had a similar plan of attack with the music too.

I think the vox can be a bit dry at times, but I think that helps give them more impact live. I generally dig the studio versions and all the intricacies they offer, but RA may be one of the few exceptions to the rule.

Just been looking for the article I remember, in my house and online, because it was a good one. No joy though. It was a musician type magazine with Tom Morello on the cover (Audioslave debut), and stuff about Riot Act inside. Irritating....

(might even be the same article you read Dewie)

:thumbup:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=tom+more ... 113&ty=124

I've still got too many of these laying around.

Yay! that's the one. It was a good issue that - I loved reading the Tom Morello stuff too, and I'm not really a guitar geek

I'd be interested in reading the Pearl Jam stuff again - because it had quite an effect on how I listened to Riot Act. Yeah, I guess it was Mike saying something like they wanted Eddie to do some more vocals and Eddie was "no, that is the take." The impression I got was that Eddie was trying to capture something fleeting. I guess the fact that a lot of people don't like what he did means he didn't quite pull it off.... There seems to be stuff floating around here which suggests that in retrospect Eddie might not be too happy with Riot Act either - I haven't got the PJ20 book yet, but I wonder if they talk about this in there at all.

mzklvspj

I love it, listen to it all the time... in fact I need a new one my CD is scratched and old. Slowly replacing all the old tapes and CDs with the 10C ones... My old ones are worn and torn and abused...they go everywhere with me. Yeah an Ipod would be easier...but...

southernmanfan

LBC, Save you and Thumbing my way some of my favourite ever PJ songs. Great album...

Come Back in Black

It's not that most people hate it. If I had 9 kids i would love them all. But if you ranked all their SAT scores, there is bound to be someone who comes in dead last.

Binaural and Riot Act are the retards of the family. It's still Pearl Jam but its not very hard to notice where they stack up aginst some of their more brilliant siblings. Give them a seat in the back and a bib.

fox_mulderX

Come Back in Black wrote:

It's not that most people hate it. If I had 9 kids i would love them all. But if you ranked all their SAT scores, there is bound to be someone who comes in dead last.

Binaural and Riot Act are the retards of the family. It's still Pearl Jam but its not very hard to notice where they stack up aginst some of their more brilliant siblings. Give them a seat in the back and a bib.

a helmet, too

pineapplesandwaves.

DewieCox wrote:

tremors wrote:

From the article I read, and from listening to it - I don't think that seems a case of rushing it but rather of trying to capture something a bit real. I love Eddie's vocals on Riot Act, I really do - and the vocals have been the main thing I have always focused on in Pearl Jam's stuff, since the early days. I personally think some of the vocals on Riot Act are amongst the best we've had from EV - it's just a different side of them. Nobody else seems to think this though - so I should probably go and sit in the corner on my own.....

I definitely read similar things around the release too. I think I read it in a Guitar World interview with Mike and Stone, so they had a similar plan of attack with the music too.

Riot Act needed more contributions from Stone and Mike!!

Pedro Lawyer

I like it...actually it's my favourite!