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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler wrote:
    and if your qb is going bad, like he was, run the god damn ball!

    :

    when in doubt go with the cliche-esque run the ball more :roll: 2 yards and a cloud of dust baby back to the 70s
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    and if your qb is going bad, like he was, run the god damn ball!

    :

    when in doubt go with the cliche-esque run the ball more :roll: 2 yards and a cloud of dust baby back to the 70s

    you should consider talking less sports.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    my point is that the last two years the eagles have not been playoff caliber teams based on talent. coaching is what got them to the playoffs.

    vick was HORRENDOUS vs minnesota last year. I think the vikings dropped 10 picks that game. And his fumble (after he ran around in the backfield for 5 minutes as always) resulted in a minn TD (I guess the fumble was reids fault).

    no one wants to blame vick. the dude just isn't that good of a QB. he's an incredible athlete playing the wrong position. only thing I blame reid for is failing to realize this and trading away the wrong QB

    i completely disagree with you about the last two years. they absolutely were playoff caliber teams each year. not super bowl caliber but playoff caliber- no doubt. once vick was given the nod their expectactions changed dramatically.

    the whole team was horrendous against minnesota. no excuse for them to come out that flat against a bad team with so much riding on it. that was essentially a playoff game for the birds and they did not show up. and if your qb is going bad, like he was, run the god damn ball!

    oh, so the "only" thing you blame reid for is, in your opinion, completely screwing up the most important position in all of sports. :lol: obviously i disagree with you. but i just find it funny how you worship at the dude's altar despite this incredibly huge issue. seriously man. if you think vick is a garbage qb, you should hate andy reid for putting all his chips in vick's corner. i mean it's not like he went with a different outside linebacker than you liked. he literally changed the direction that the entire franchise was headed with vick at the helm.

    i think he's good coach, not a great one. he makes the same mistakes he made in 1999. but i'm not one of those people who says "the eagles will never win a super bowl with andy reid... yada yada." despite some holes, this team has the talent to make a deep run this year. can't wait for the season to get going :mrgreen:

    look at how many TD passes the eagles have allowed the last two years. without reid they are the texans

    reid shit the bed on the QB thing. I will call him out when I disagree with him...and I certainly do in this regard

    vick isn't garbage, he's just not smart enough or well rounded enough as a player to lead a team to a SB win IMO

    we're going in circles. you like vick more than I do and i like reid more than you do. like you said, they are tied at the hip now, so their success correlates. I hope vick proves me wrong. should be a fun season


    i just appreciate the irony here.

    you love andy reid so much and always talk about how great he is and how underappreciated he is…yet he, according to you, repeatedly goes with quarterbacks who are preventing the eagles from winning a super bowl.

    so, therefore, you must enjoy not winning super bowls :lol: ….obviously i’m kidding. that dynamic is just funny to me
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  • Phantom Pain
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    The O-Line being such a huge question mark is the problem this year

    I have bad feeling week one in a fired up Dome
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  • Phantom Pain
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    Jeags they make the playoffs every year this is the best the franchise has been ever!

    Don't worry about SB'S
    ;)
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The O-Line being such a huge question mark is the problem this year

    I have bad feeling week one in a fired up Dome

    how do you feel about week 2 in the georgia dome on a sunday night? ;)


    i kind of like having those two tough tests early on though. should be favored in the next 4 games headed into the bye. i'd love to be 4-2 at the bye...
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    and if your qb is going bad, like he was, run the god damn ball!

    :

    when in doubt go with the cliche-esque run the ball more :roll: 2 yards and a cloud of dust baby back to the 70s

    you should consider talking less sports.

    why because i actually have my own thoughts and don't just spew the same bs that the masses spew? 'running the ball' is the most overused and overhyped comment media-types and fans use whenever things go bad with the eagles.

    at least you haven't tried to convince us the pre-season games are important like you did last year.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    when in doubt go with the cliche-esque run the ball more :roll: 2 yards and a cloud of dust baby back to the 70s

    you should consider talking less sports.

    why because i actually have my own thoughts and don't just spew the same bs that the masses spew? 'running the ball' is the most overused and overhyped comment media-types and fans use whenever things go bad with the eagles.

    at least you haven't tried to convince us the pre-season games are important like you did last year.

    you really don't know what your talking about in just about every sports thread you post in.

    preseason games results are meaningless. the reps and execution are important just like reps/execution in practices are. especially this year without the ota's.

    when your qb is playing like shit, yeah it makes a lot of sense to continue to have him drop back to pass all game long. :thumbup: :roll:
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Jeags they make the playoffs every year this is the best the franchise has been ever!

    Don't worry about SB'S
    ;)

    ugh - it actually is but never let FACTS get in the way. since they've never won a super bowl and only been there 2x, this run has been better than any other in franchise history in the super bowl era. can't argue that. yes not wining a super bowl yet sucks but when comparing this coach and this era to the rest of the era's of the franchise yup it's not really close. this is by far the best run in the super bowl era of the NFL this franchise has had. next.....
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler wrote:
    you really don't know what your talking about in just about every sports thread you post in.

    preseason games results are meaningless. the reps and execution are important just like reps/execution in practices are. especially this year without the ota's.

    when your qb is playing like shit, yeah it makes a lot of sense to continue to have him drop back to pass all game long. :thumbup: :roll:

    show me a team in the NFL that wins when their QB plays like shit whether they run the fucking ball or not. again it's a tired and overused argument by people who need to try and come up with an excuse for a loss other than the players sucked that day. you know sometimes it's just bad play that causes losses not some unforseen wip-esque reason. but fantasy geeks and sabermetrics seem to need a mathematical reason and/or a fucking chart to explain losses.

    edit: and in today's game under the current rules and with the receivers this team has a pass play is the best option 95% of the time. in the opposite view when i watch other teams offenses against the eagles defense almost all the time i'd rather have that team call a running a play than a pass play. i don't care about giving up 3 or 4 yards. rarely are you going all the way down the field running the ball. except to run out clock at end of the games you aren't beating me running the ball.

    edit #2: everyone agrees that 3rd and long is the worst case scenario for an offense, yet running the ball for 3 yards a pop leaves you in 3rd and long everytime. all i have to do is stop 1 out of 3 running plays and your offense is in 3rd and long.
  • 81
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    pjhawks wrote:
    when in doubt go with the cliche-esque run the ball more :roll: 2 yards and a cloud of dust baby back to the 70s


    it's 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

    i miss old school I formation double tight end football.

    :(
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    81 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    when in doubt go with the cliche-esque run the ball more :roll: 2 yards and a cloud of dust baby back to the 70s


    it's 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

    i miss old school I formation double tight end football.

    :(

    not the way the eagles run it :D

    and 3 yards and a cloud of dust still leave you with 4th and 1. throw the damn ball it's what the rules dictate these days.
  • 81
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    :lol:

    it's sucks what they have done to the game.
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Juggler wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The O-Line being such a huge question mark is the problem this year

    I have bad feeling week one in a fired up Dome

    how do you feel about week 2 in the georgia dome on a sunday night? ;)


    i kind of like having those two tough tests early on though. should be favored in the next 4 games headed into the bye. i'd love to be 4-2 at the bye...
    Ugh.. That could be a blood bath

    Earn their stripes early hopefully
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    you really don't know what your talking about in just about every sports thread you post in.

    preseason games results are meaningless. the reps and execution are important just like reps/execution in practices are. especially this year without the ota's.

    when your qb is playing like shit, yeah it makes a lot of sense to continue to have him drop back to pass all game long. :thumbup: :roll:

    show me a team in the NFL that wins when their QB plays like shit whether they run the fucking ball or not. again it's a tired and overused argument by people who need to try and come up with an excuse for a loss other than the players sucked that day. you know sometimes it's just bad play that causes losses not some unforseen wip-esque reason. but fantasy geeks and sabermetrics seem to need a mathematical reason and/or a fucking chart to explain losses.

    edit: and in today's game under the current rules and with the receivers this team has a pass play is the best option 95% of the time. in the opposite view when i watch other teams offenses against the eagles defense almost all the time i'd rather have that team call a running a play than a pass play. i don't care about giving up 3 or 4 yards. rarely are you going all the way down the field running the ball. except to run out clock at end of the games you aren't beating me running the ball.

    edit #2: everyone agrees that 3rd and long is the worst case scenario for an offense, yet running the ball for 3 yards a pop leaves you in 3rd and long everytime. all i have to do is stop 1 out of 3 running plays and your offense is in 3rd and long.

    you're the head coach of a football team (god help us all). your quarterback clearly does not have it today. he's completing less than 50% of his passes. his offensive line is giving up sacks left and right. you also have one of the better running backs in the league.

    as his coach, what would you do to help him out?
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  • Phantom Pain
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    The Juggler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    you really don't know what your talking about in just about every sports thread you post in.

    preseason games results are meaningless. the reps and execution are important just like reps/execution in practices are. especially this year without the ota's.

    when your qb is playing like shit, yeah it makes a lot of sense to continue to have him drop back to pass all game long. :thumbup: :roll:

    show me a team in the NFL that wins when their QB plays like shit whether they run the fucking ball or not. again it's a tired and overused argument by people who need to try and come up with an excuse for a loss other than the players sucked that day. you know sometimes it's just bad play that causes losses not some unforseen wip-esque reason. but fantasy geeks and sabermetrics seem to need a mathematical reason and/or a fucking chart to explain losses.

    edit: and in today's game under the current rules and with the receivers this team has a pass play is the best option 95% of the time. in the opposite view when i watch other teams offenses against the eagles defense almost all the time i'd rather have that team call a running a play than a pass play. i don't care about giving up 3 or 4 yards. rarely are you going all the way down the field running the ball. except to run out clock at end of the games you aren't beating me running the ball.

    edit #2: everyone agrees that 3rd and long is the worst case scenario for an offense, yet running the ball for 3 yards a pop leaves you in 3rd and long everytime. all i have to do is stop 1 out of 3 running plays and your offense is in 3rd and long.

    you're the head coach of a football team (god help us all). your quarterback clearly does not have it today. he's completing less than 50% of his passes. his offensive line is giving up sacks left and right. you also have one of the better running backs in the league.

    as his coach, what would you do to help him out?


    I usually use the ASK MADDEN feature

    :lol:;)
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:

    i just appreciate the irony here.

    you love andy reid so much and always talk about how great he is and how underappreciated he is…yet he, according to you, repeatedly goes with quarterbacks who are preventing the eagles from winning a super bowl.

    so, therefore, you must enjoy not winning super bowls :lol: ….obviously i’m kidding. that dynamic is just funny to me

    I thought mcnabb would win one up utnil the arizona game. once the eagles got the ball, 2 mins left, down 7...I knew the game was over. reid probably kept him one year too long, but he saw the light as well. vick is the first qb that reid has gone with that I have disagreed with.

    reid is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. by far
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    you really don't know what your talking about in just about every sports thread you post in.

    preseason games results are meaningless. the reps and execution are important just like reps/execution in practices are. especially this year without the ota's.

    when your qb is playing like shit, yeah it makes a lot of sense to continue to have him drop back to pass all game long. :thumbup: :roll:

    show me a team in the NFL that wins when their QB plays like shit whether they run the fucking ball or not. again it's a tired and overused argument by people who need to try and come up with an excuse for a loss other than the players sucked that day. you know sometimes it's just bad play that causes losses not some unforseen wip-esque reason. but fantasy geeks and sabermetrics seem to need a mathematical reason and/or a fucking chart to explain losses.

    edit: and in today's game under the current rules and with the receivers this team has a pass play is the best option 95% of the time. in the opposite view when i watch other teams offenses against the eagles defense almost all the time i'd rather have that team call a running a play than a pass play. i don't care about giving up 3 or 4 yards. rarely are you going all the way down the field running the ball. except to run out clock at end of the games you aren't beating me running the ball.

    edit #2: everyone agrees that 3rd and long is the worst case scenario for an offense, yet running the ball for 3 yards a pop leaves you in 3rd and long everytime. all i have to do is stop 1 out of 3 running plays and your offense is in 3rd and long.

    you're the head coach of a football team (god help us all). your quarterback clearly does not have it today. he's completing less than 50% of his passes. his offensive line is giving up sacks left and right. you also have one of the better running backs in the league.

    as his coach, what would you do to help him out?

    well any team completing less than 50% of their passes in any NFL game ain't winning period. and how many teams win in any sport when their best players don't play well? our best players are the qb and wide receivers just so you know.

    but anyway i'd...

    throw screens to mccoy (since that is by far where he is best), tell your QB to use his legs (unstoppable when scrambling) and not throw into tight coverage/interceptions , put jackson back to return punts and send your stud receivers long and hope for big plays. my best chance of winning when my qb is not playing well is to limit turnovers and come up with 2 or 3 big plays and by god we have the players to come up with big plays. we would NEVER score 21+ points running the ball.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    edited August 2011
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    i just appreciate the irony here.

    you love andy reid so much and always talk about how great he is and how underappreciated he is…yet he, according to you, repeatedly goes with quarterbacks who are preventing the eagles from winning a super bowl.

    so, therefore, you must enjoy not winning super bowls :lol: ….obviously i’m kidding. that dynamic is just funny to me

    I thought mcnabb would win one up utnil the arizona game. once the eagles got the ball, 2 mins left, down 7...I knew the game was over. reid probably kept him one year too long, but he saw the light as well. vick is the first qb that reid has gone with that I have disagreed with.

    reid is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. by far

    jim johnson, brian dawkins and the defense (oh and david akers, forgot him) cost them that game. eagles had the lead and they let the cardinals go down the field and waste almost 9 minutes to take the lead. and curtis was interfered with on the last play. it wasn't mcnabb's fault. blaming mcnabb because of one drive is like blaming one player for one strikeout in the last at-bat....oh wait :roll: :roll: :roll:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    show me a team in the NFL that wins when their QB plays like shit whether they run the fucking ball or not. again it's a tired and overused argument by people who need to try and come up with an excuse for a loss other than the players sucked that day. you know sometimes it's just bad play that causes losses not some unforseen wip-esque reason. but fantasy geeks and sabermetrics seem to need a mathematical reason and/or a fucking chart to explain losses.

    edit: and in today's game under the current rules and with the receivers this team has a pass play is the best option 95% of the time. in the opposite view when i watch other teams offenses against the eagles defense almost all the time i'd rather have that team call a running a play than a pass play. i don't care about giving up 3 or 4 yards. rarely are you going all the way down the field running the ball. except to run out clock at end of the games you aren't beating me running the ball.

    edit #2: everyone agrees that 3rd and long is the worst case scenario for an offense, yet running the ball for 3 yards a pop leaves you in 3rd and long everytime. all i have to do is stop 1 out of 3 running plays and your offense is in 3rd and long.

    you're the head coach of a football team (god help us all). your quarterback clearly does not have it today. he's completing less than 50% of his passes. his offensive line is giving up sacks left and right. you also have one of the better running backs in the league.

    as his coach, what would you do to help him out?


    I usually use the ASK MADDEN feature

    :lol:;)

    pretty sure he'd give you a better option than what pjhawks said. his response is reminiscent of being back in college and playing that game drunk as hell at 3 in the morning. ALL PASSES, ALL THE TIME. YEAH! :mrgreen:
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