***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,222
    bats fell asleep today, but then again we faced decent pitching this series. Looking forward to next Thursday's game against the Bo Sox :D
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The homo Beckett seems to be on a mission this year.

    C'mon man, really?
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    jimed14 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The homo Beckett seems to be on a mission this year.

    C'mon man, really?

    I agree, I like you but that's not really appropriate.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    The Fixer wrote:
    Also, nyc is fucking awesome. I have 3 regrets in life...not playing baseball in college, getting a dui, and not moving here after college. Buddy I'm staying with just broke up with gf of 3.5 years...victorias secret model. Insane

    Wait a minute - she looked like a VS model or actually was a VS model?
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    The Fixer wrote:
    Also, nyc is fucking awesome. I have 3 regrets in life...not playing baseball in college, getting a dui, and not moving here after college. Buddy I'm staying with just broke up with gf of 3.5 years...victorias secret model. Insane



    it really is ..... philly was awesome when i was there for pj.... but nothing comes close to nyc
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,372
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Also, nyc is fucking awesome. I have 3 regrets in life...not playing baseball in college, getting a dui, and not moving here after college. Buddy I'm staying with just broke up with gf of 3.5 years...victorias secret model. Insane

    it really is ..... philly was awesome when i was there for pj.... but nothing comes close to nyc
    :roll: :roll: :roll:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Also, nyc is fucking awesome. I have 3 regrets in life...not playing baseball in college, getting a dui, and not moving here after college. Buddy I'm staying with just broke up with gf of 3.5 years...victorias secret model. Insane

    it really is ..... philly was awesome when i was there for pj.... but nothing comes close to nyc
    :roll: :roll: :roll:
    :lol:
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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Also, nyc is fucking awesome. I have 3 regrets in life...not playing baseball in college, getting a dui, and not moving here after college. Buddy I'm staying with just broke up with gf of 3.5 years...victorias secret model. Insane

    it really is ..... philly was awesome when i was there for pj.... but nothing comes close to nyc
    :roll: :roll: :roll:


    it doesn't bro...
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:

    it really is ..... philly was awesome when i was there for pj.... but nothing comes close to nyc
    :roll: :roll: :roll:


    it doesn't bro...

    yeah, luckily these people disagree with you:

    Cliff_Lee_Family_07.jpg


    at least brian gordon liked it there. ;):lol::lol:
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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    The Juggler wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    :roll: :roll: :roll:


    it doesn't bro...

    yeah, luckily these people disagree with you:

    Cliff_Lee_Family_07.jpg


    at least brian gordon liked it there. ;):lol::lol:


    who is that?
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,372
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    who is that?

    The Lee family. Nicely done Jeags. 8-)
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    who is that?

    The Lee family. Nicely done Jeags. 8-)

    i do what i can. wonder if he knows who brian gordon is? :lol:
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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    who is that?

    The Lee family. Nicely done Jeags. 8-)


    oh the pussy who knew ny would eat him alive and knew he needed major help becasue he isn't a # 1


    glad he didn't come ( went to hide behind roy ) twizzle
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    who is that?

    The Lee family. Nicely done Jeags. 8-)


    oh the pussy who knew ny would eat him alive and knew he needed major help becasue he isn't a # 1


    glad he didn't come ( went to hide behind roy ) twizzle

    if looking at it that way makes you feel better.... :lol:
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,372
    The Juggler wrote:
    i do what i can. wonder if he knows who brian gordon is? :lol:

    haha


    So, Fixer, was the Victoria's Secret chick anorexic. Would be pretty boring to go out to dinner with one of those. :lol:
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,372
    The Juggler wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    oh the pussy who knew ny would eat him alive and knew he needed major help becasue he isn't a # 1

    glad he didn't come ( went to hide behind roy ) twizzle

    if looking at it that way makes you feel better.... :lol:

    NY really ate him alive in that World Series. :lol:
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  • 81
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    NY fans are quickly getting on my most annoying sports fan list. :P
    81 is now off the air

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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    oh the pussy who knew ny would eat him alive and knew he needed major help becasue he isn't a # 1

    glad he didn't come ( went to hide behind roy ) twizzle

    if looking at it that way makes you feel better.... :lol:

    NY really ate him alive in that World Series. :lol:


    not him..but the rest of the phils if memory serves me correct
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The 81 wrote:
    NY fans are quickly getting on my most annoying sports fan list. :P

    cliff lee agrees with you.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,372
    Worst Defense in Baseball??? Damn.

    In the piece I wrote last week about Cliff Lee's struggles, I pointed out that a lot of his problems had to do with the Phillies' poor defense. This led one commenter to write:

    "This article seems to forget that the Phillies are the team with the second least amount of errors in baseball. Poor defense? No. Defensive runs saved is a very flawed statistic."

    The commenter is correct about the errors. The Philadelphia Phillies have made the third-fewest errors and have the highest fielding percentage in the baseball this season. By this logic, you might be fooled into thinking they're a great defensive team behind their superb pitching staff. But there is so much more to good defense than not making errors.

    Errors provide useful information. When the official scorer assigns an error, we know that the fielder has gotten to the ball and either bobbled it, made a bad throw or committed some other miscue on a play that would normally be made successfully. The fielder screwed up, and he should be penalized for it; hence, he is charged with an error.

    However, there are well-documented issues with using errors to evaluate fielders. For starters, there is often room for disagreement in the official scorer's ruling. Additionally, errors don't appropriately account for a fielder's range; if a shortstop is a step slow and doesn't reach a ground ball through the hole, he's not likely to be charged with an error, although other shortstops might have made the play.

    Many analysts have attempted to accommodate these concerns. For example, Bill James decided to focus on the plays a fielder does make, rather than the plays he does not. Along these lines, he proposed the original range factor formula, which simply counts the number of assists and putouts per nine innings. Players with great range tend to reach more balls and have a higher range factor than others at their position.

    While an improvement over Fielding Percentage, range factor still has a few complicating factors. For instance, a shortstop behind a ground-ball pitcher would have more opportunities than a fly-ball pitcher.

    Phillies pitchers have induced a ton of ground balls this year. The league batting average on ground balls is .227. The Phillies have allowed a .248 average on grounders, the third-worst in baseball behind the Arizona Diamondbacks and the Chicago Cubs. This is a strong indication that Philadelphia infielders are not getting to that many ground balls, and you can't make an error on a ball you don't get to.

    Additionally, ground balls are not all equal. Obviously, a hard-hit ball in the hole is a much tougher play than a routine three-hopper right at the shortstop. Additionally, as discussed recently in an article about batting average on balls in play, ground-ball specialists like Trevor Cahill tend to allow a lower batting average than other pitchers on their ground balls. This unevenness is not guaranteed to even out over the course of the season.

    That's why Baseball Info Solutions' video scouts plot the location and velocity (hard, medium or soft) of each ground ball over the course of the season. With this information, we can approximate the difficulty of each ball in play (not just ground balls) for each fielder. That's exactly what John Dewan did with the plus/minus system.

    Given the location and velocity of the ground balls allowed by the Phillies' pitching staff year, a lineup of average infielders would have made about 627 plays. The Phillies' infield actually made 587 plays, a 40-play difference. Converting 40 outs into hits makes a difference of about 30 runs. Despite their low error total, the Phillies' infield has cost the pitching staff about 40 outs and 30 runs this year. Check out the chart below, which shows the teams with the biggest gap between their infield's ranking in fielding percentage and plus/minus.

    Major differences
    The following five teams have the largest discrepancy between their infield rankings for fielding percentage and defensive runs saved. The Phillies come up first in one and last in the other.

    Team Fielding Pct Rank Plus/Minus Rank
    Phillies 0.988 1 -40 30
    Rangers 0.980 27 12 3
    Athletics 0.980 28 -14 12
    Dodgers 0.987 6 -24 21
    Mets 0.986 8 -22 19

    The Phillies are an excellent team that will very likely win the National League East again. But that doesn't mean they have a good infield defense. In fact, despite what fielding percentage might tell you, they have a poor one.
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