Project #8 - The Whispers of War: Riot Act Live

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  • Dazzler
    Dazzler Grimsby, UK Posts: 109
    Trouble wasn't played in 2003.

    Not much love for Fortunate Son out there so far, but I Won't Back down from Missoula 28/05 is unreal!
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Dazzler wrote:
    Save You from Mexico 17/07 is amazing. Eddie really takes a while to warm his throat up to reach those last 2 notes, but on here, it's effortless.

    Trying to find a really good Half Full


    Listening to some Save you at the moment. I'll have to log off in a couple minutes and will be back after lunchtime.
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Dazzler wrote:
    Trouble wasn't played in 2003.

    Not much love for Fortunate Son out there so far, but I Won't Back down from Missoula 28/05 is unreal!


    I reckon I won't back down would be a better alternative than Don't be shy.

    Even though we'll HAVE TO include Don't be shy in one of the projects... ;)
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    myra wrote:
    Dazzler wrote:
    Trouble wasn't played in 2003.

    Not much love for Fortunate Son out there so far, but I Won't Back down from Missoula 28/05 is unreal!


    I reckon I won't back down would be a better alternative than Don't be shy.

    Even though we'll HAVE TO include Don't be shy in one of the projects... ;)


    Don't Be Shy was played in Tokyo and we have had a request for this version earlier in the thread ;)

    But our covers so far have a kind of theme, and I won't back down would fit well. Is it not on the list already??

    I think we should cram in as many covers as possible with this one - seeing as we have so much material this tour
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  • myra wrote:
    mocik wrote:
    Here are the versions of You Are that I liked the most:

    Cleveland 2003-04-25
    Mexico City 2003-07-18

    I like Mexico City a little better. There is a small "mistake" in lyrics but otherwise this version is great.

    Wow, thanks for your efforts Mocik ! :thumbup:

    Edit :

    Have listened to both. They're really great. I agree with you on Mexico City. I think I like this one better too. It's trippy ! Much much more so than the studio version.

    Glad you like them :D
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    I'm tending to agree that Don't Be Shy wouldn't fit so well with the other covers, and agree that I won't back down would be excellent - I seem to remember there were some amazing versions of this song on the tour.

    I have to go off an do a bit of work for a while :( , but will be back late afternoon to see where we have got to.
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  • tremors
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    Thanks for the suggestions folks - is really helping. When Cameron4President gets here, he will help sort through the suggestions we have had so far - we are only trying to get a rough draft at this stage - so it doesn't have to be definitive. All further suggestions on the gaps and the covers gratefully received. It's good to have a few choices to listen to later. Thanks
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  • Dazzler
    Dazzler Grimsby, UK Posts: 109
    Really happy with the choices for Cropduster, I am Mine and You Are.

    I think there are better versions of Down out there, and possibly Ghost as the one chosen does have a bit of a scrappy ending (not many to choose from)

    And I still prefer Melbourne's Know Your rights over Uniondale.

    But that's just me!
  • Dazzler
    Dazzler Grimsby, UK Posts: 109
    After re-checking, the versions of Ghost and Down that have been chosen are perhaps the best examples out there from 2003.

    Good finds!
  • tremors wrote:
    Thanks for the suggestions folks - is really helping. When Cameron4President gets here, he will help sort through the suggestions we have had so far - we are only trying to get a rough draft at this stage - so it doesn't have to be definitive. All further suggestions on the gaps and the covers gratefully received. It's good to have a few choices to listen to later. Thanks


    Good Morning to everybody here in the States , and good Afternoon to all of my European friends. Wow...
    Excellent work, lots of stuff to consider because you guys have been busy. For some reason I was sure that they played "Trouble" in 2003 (in Japan), but I guess I was thinking of "Don't Be Shy".

    Looking through these last few posts, I saw that there was some discussion debating whether "Don't Be Shy" should be included, and it is my opinion that although it's a great song, it does not fit on this compilation.

    "I Won't Back Down" would definitely be a better fit. (This song spot could also be eliminated if we run long on time.)

    Let me read a few things and I will update the track list.
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  • Here is where we are at:

    Project #8 - "Riot Act Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Can't Keep - Lexington, Kentucky (April 21, 2003)
    Save You - Mexico City, Mexico (July 17, 2003)
    Love Boat Captain - Sydney, Australia (February 11, 2003)
    Cropduster - State College, Pennsylvania (May 3, 2003)
    Ghost - West Palm Beach, Florida (April 11, 2003)
    I Am Mine - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (April 3, 2003)
    Thumbing My Way - Fargo, North Dakota (June 15, 2003)
    You Are - Mexico City, Mexico (July 18, 2003)
    Get Right - Mansfield, Massachusetts (July 2, 2003)
    Green Disease - Dallas, Texas (June 9, 2003)
    Help Help - Hershey, Pennsylvania (July 12, 2003)
    Bu$hleaguer - Brisbane, Australia (February 8, 2003)
    1/2 Full - Atlanta, Georgia (April 19, 2003)
    Down - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (April 26, 2003)
    All Or None - Albany, New York (April 29, 2003)
    I Won't Back Down
    I Am A Patriot - Mansfield, Massachusetts (July 3, 2003)
    Fortunate Son
    Gimme Some Truth - Raleigh, North Carolina (April 15, 2003)
    Know Your Rights - Uniondale, New York (April 30, 2003)
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Good Morning to everybody here in the States , and good Afternoon to all of my European friends. Wow...
    Excellent work, lots of stuff to consider because you guys have been busy. For some reason I was sure that they played "Trouble" in 2003 (in Japan), but I guess I was thinking of "Don't Be Shy".

    Looking through these last few posts, I saw that there was some discussion debating whether "Don't Be Shy" should be included, and it is my opinion that although it's a great song, it does not fit on this compilation.

    "I Won't Back Down" would definitely be a better fit. (This song spot could also be eliminated if we run long on time.)

    :wave:
    I'm back !

    I'm checking on a few Fortunate son and I won't back down, starting with this one :
    Dazzler wrote:
    I Won't Back down from Missoula 28/05 is unreal!
  • myra wrote:
    Dazzler wrote:
    Trouble wasn't played in 2003.

    Not much love for Fortunate Son out there so far, but I Won't Back down from Missoula 28/05 is unreal!


    I reckon I won't back down would be a better alternative than Don't be shy.

    Even though we'll HAVE TO include Don't be shy in one of the projects... ;)


    Although it may be quite a few months away, we are planning at some point to have a covers compilation. Some of these awesome covers that haven't made in this project and our other 7 will eventually show up. :D
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • :thumbup: :thumbup: x2 to Mocik and Dazzler. Thanks for giving us so many ass kicking suggestions.
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • Project #8 - "Riot Act Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Can't Keep - Lexington, Kentucky (April 21, 2003)
    Save You - Mexico City, Mexico (July 17, 2003)
    Love Boat Captain - Sydney, Australia (February 11, 2003)
    Cropduster - State College, Pennsylvania (May 3, 2003)
    Ghost - West Palm Beach, Florida (April 11, 2003)
    I Am Mine - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (April 3, 2003)
    Thumbing My Way - Fargo, North Dakota (June 15, 2003)
    You Are - Mexico City, Mexico (July 18, 2003)
    Get Right - Mansfield, Massachusetts (July 2, 2003)
    Green Disease - Dallas, Texas (June 9, 2003)
    Help Help - Hershey, Pennsylvania (July 12, 2003)
    Bu$hleaguer - Brisbane, Australia (February 8, 2003)
    1/2 Full - Atlanta, Georgia (April 19, 2003)
    Down - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (April 26, 2003)
    All Or None - Albany, New York (April 29, 2003)
    I Won't Back Down - Missoula, Montana (May 28, 2003)
    I Am A Patriot - Mansfield, Massachusetts (July 3, 2003)
    Fortunate Son
    Gimme Some Truth - Raleigh, North Carolina (April 15, 2003)
    Know Your Rights - Uniondale, New York (April 30, 2003)
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    Project #8 - "Riot Act Live" **Working Track List**

    Track List:

    Can't Keep - Lexington, Kentucky (April 21, 2003)
    Save You - Mexico City, Mexico (July 17, 2003)
    Love Boat Captain - Sydney, Australia (February 11, 2003)
    Cropduster - State College, Pennsylvania (May 3, 2003)
    Ghost - West Palm Beach, Florida (April 11, 2003)
    I Am Mine - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (April 3, 2003)
    Thumbing My Way - Fargo, North Dakota (June 15, 2003)
    You Are - Mexico City, Mexico (July 18, 2003)
    Get Right - Mansfield, Massachusetts (July 2, 2003)
    Green Disease - Dallas, Texas (June 9, 2003)
    Help Help - Hershey, Pennsylvania (July 12, 2003)
    Bu$hleaguer - Brisbane, Australia (February 8, 2003)
    1/2 Full - Atlanta, Georgia (April 19, 2003)
    Down - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (April 26, 2003)
    All Or None - Albany, New York (April 29, 2003)
    I Won't Back Down - Missoula, Montana (May 28, 2003)
    I Am A Patriot - Mansfield, Massachusetts (July 3, 2003)
    Fortunate Son
    Gimme Some Truth - Raleigh, North Carolina (April 15, 2003)
    Know Your Rights - Uniondale, New York (April 30, 2003)


    Looks great! We have done well so far, and nice to have such useful input from board members.

    So is the only gap now Fortunate Son, before we have a Rough Draft? I am away from home at the moment - but will be able to contribute if necessary in about 3 hours from now.

    Can't wait to hear this through - I have been getting into the individual tracks and playing some of the boots over and over, since starting this. It was one hell of a tour!
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  • Dazzler
    Dazzler Grimsby, UK Posts: 109
    The only version of Fortunate Son which is passable is the Perth version with Johnny Marr as guest guitarist.

    Many other versions are incredibly loose with incredibly un-tight intros, or are 'ruined' by the vocal graces of Sleater-Kinney!

    Raleigh Gimme Some Truth is good, but personally I prefer the MSG 1 version, but i guess we all have this one one on the DVD.
  • Dazzler wrote:
    The only version of Fortunate Son which is passable is the Perth version with Johnny Marr as guest guitarist.

    Many other versions are incredibly loose with incredibly un-tight intros, or are 'ruined' by the vocal graces of Sleater-Kinney!

    Raleigh Gimme Some Truth is good, but personally I prefer the MSG 1 version, but i guess we all have this one one on the DVD.

    I would personally like to stay away from MSG 1 because most of us do have the DVD.

    Perth version of Fortunate Son is good. :D

    Raleigh "Gimme Some Truth" was my personal pick because I was at that show and it is the one I know best, but if anybody has a version that they think is better, by all means let us know.
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Dazzler wrote:
    The only version of Fortunate Son which is passable is the Perth version with Johnny Marr as guest guitarist.

    Many other versions are incredibly loose with incredibly un-tight intros, or are 'ruined' by the vocal graces of Sleater-Kinney!

    Raleigh Gimme Some Truth is good, but personally I prefer the MSG 1 version, but i guess we all have this one one on the DVD.


    Oh please, no Sleater Kinney !!! :mrgreen:

    I sort of like Phoenix 2003/06/07 better than Missoula for I won't back down. I reckon it's vocally more in place, cleaner and effortless.

    I'd like to avoid MSG 1 too when we can.
  • For some of you that are new to our projects, I just want to take a few minutes to say "welcome, we are glad to have you here participating" and I wanted to breakdown the process that Myra, Tremors, Electricxlovex, and myself go through with these projects. It basically goes like this:

    Sat - Sun: Working Track List --> Rough Draft
    Mon: Rough Draft gets put together and the four of us take a few listens
    Tues: Discussions, Add, Delete, and Replace songs. Version 1 is in process.
    Wed: Four of us listen to Version 1 a couple of times, then "Discussions, Add, Delete, and Replace songs."
    Thurs: Version 2 is put together and sent out, the four of us listen and decide if any more tweaks are needed.
    Fri: A little more discussion, and everybody agree's that its ready.
    Sat: Release Day.

    So please keep all of these great suggestions coming after the Rough Draft is completed because there is a lot of work to be done between the Rough Draft phase and the actual version that gets to be released. Some of our best additions have come on a Thursday or Friday.
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    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC