A good alternative to arguing would be to email <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> and let them know how you feel about the change. It's not too late for them to do the right thing and keep things as they were.
i'd also be a lot happier if they would respond to my question regarding why these prices for the new membership were put in place on december 31st when the e-mail specifically says january 1st. textbook case of a business blatantly lying to its clients...
What are you talking about? They didn't put them in place on December 31, they just disabled the renewal function. If people had seen the announcement and renewed en masse with the old system well into the future, it would have created a major problem since that option technically no longer exists. They have this issue to sort out with folks who have already done so and it would have been exponentially worse if they had left the renewal feature up.
The Ten Club didn't lie to anyone. Again, the mountain of bizarre accusations and insults being lobbed at the band, et al. just because the cost of joining their fan club went up is really depressing.
Again, the mountain of bizarre accusations and insults being lobbed at the band
i think we can all agree that the band and 10C are 2 very different entities at this point... thats probably the biggest pitfall of the whole thing
listening to Ramblings I from '91 really makes you see just how far this club has come (maybe not the best example but it just came up on my shuffle)... naturally it was bound to happen and i don't fault the band for it... but things sure feel a lot less personal at this point
Again, the mountain of bizarre accusations and insults being lobbed at the band
i think we can all agree that the band and 10C are 2 very different entities at this point... thats probably the biggest pitfall of the whole thing
listening to Ramblings I from '91 really makes you see just how far this club has come (maybe not the best example but it just came up on my shuffle)... naturally it was bound to happen and i don't fault the band for it... but things sure feel a lot less personal at this point
I think you're right on about the separation, but what are you gonna do? It's always more personal early on. If people want that, find a band that you like who's playing 200 person rooms; good chance they'll grab a beer with you after the show. It's impossible for a band of Pearl Jam's popularity to make things super personal just based on the sheer volume of fans who want a piece of them. (And having some who go to extreme lengths to do so certainly doesn't help with that.)
really no need to continue on with this thread ..... people that are upset will not be convinced otherwise and continue to tell us why they are displeased, people that are pleasantly upbeat about the new system will also continue to post how pleased they are with it and why, so really we're getting nowhere in this thread.......it's just creating hard feelings and generating hostility; really when all is said and done it's just a fan club! There's a lot of people on this board dealing with a lot larger issues in life (serious illness, financial, marital, and all life's other hardships).
For the benefit of all we should move on.
to each their own; the way life should be, do what you wish with your fan club status and a BIG happy new year to all!
AMEN BRUTHA!!!! We just need to all hug it out!!!
There are two sides to this that no matter how much each side pleads its case the other side gets offended!
I've emailed them twice about it now...no response. If they functioned more like the business they are supposed to be and answered some of our questions then I wouldn't be bitching right now.
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I have no problem with the fan club changing. I think the most current band fan club that can be compared with Pearl Jams is Metallicas with all the boots, etc and their cost is $55 for base and above for upgrades...
If people want that, find a band that you like who's playing 200 person rooms; good chance they'll grab a beer with you after the show. It's impossible for a band of Pearl Jam's popularity to make things super personal just based on the sheer volume of fans who want a piece of them. (And having some who go to extreme lengths to do so certainly doesn't help with that.)
Someone already mentioned Metallica.... Fan only gigs, meet & greets, backstage passes....
i'd also be a lot happier if they would respond to my question regarding why these prices for the new membership were put in place on december 31st when the e-mail specifically says january 1st. textbook case of a business blatantly lying to its clients...
What are you talking about? They didn't put them in place on December 31, they just disabled the renewal function. If people had seen the announcement and renewed en masse with the old system well into the future, it would have created a major problem since that option technically no longer exists. They have this issue to sort out with folks who have already done so and it would have been exponentially worse if they had left the renewal feature up.
The Ten Club didn't lie to anyone. Again, the mountain of bizarre accusations and insults being lobbed at the band, et al. just because the cost of joining their fan club went up is really depressing.
Yes, they most definitely did. Plenty of people said so and I myself saw the analog/digital options only in the goods section. And disabling the renew function would be the same thing. They really should have given members more notice. It was the least the could do.
I read all those posts and try to understand the different opinions. Yes, changes can be hard to take but I am here because I love the band and their music. I got to know lots of really nice people on these boards and I really enjoy talking to people from all over the world who share my love for PJ. You can decide which membership fits you best, so what's the deal? I don't have decided yet which option I'll choose. I am happily looking forward to anything that'll come our way from PJ this year and I am thankful for anything I'll get. I think even 50 dollars is still okay, it's annual, not monthly. Considering all the money I spend on things that I don't care that much about it's okay for me to pay this amount. And even if it weren't for that, I am not forced to pay it. It's up to me to decide. But maybe it would have been better if they just raised the membership cost for 5-10 dollars and just kept one version of memberships
A happy new year for everyone!
exactly this....only for the friends i made for life via 10c im ok with the this changing..you cant put a price on that..
Good point... although I made my friends when the board was free and I wasn't a member of the 10C I probably wouldn't have made those friends had there been a price on the board.
i met you at the Manchester pre-party at 2009..was organized here
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
For those who renewed in advance, there's no way 10C can take away your vinyl and hardcopy Deeps so long as they're still being produced. You paid for memberships that included them. They cannot say "Well, now you have to pay us even more if you want those". They have to honour their end of the deal, otherwise they should have never allowed for multiple years renewal. And I really hope people who are years ahead really don't pay extra for a t-shirt they cannot select and a download they can get elsewhere for free. Because I do fear many would do so just to be able to call themselves analog, which is sad.
so im ok till 2022? :roll:
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Going "analog" for sure but waiting to hear back from 10club about my account. What happens to those user's, those international paying members ,who's already paid till 2021, like myself? :oops:
Hahaha! I emailed them about this as well!! Although i'm only paid up until 2012
Toronto - 2009
Hartford - 2010
Ed Solo - Hartford - 2011
Toronto X 2, Ottawa & Hamilton - 2011
Ed Solo - Jacksonville - 2012
London, Pittsburgh & Buffalo - 2013
No shows in 2014 :-(
I was signed up until 2015. I would like analog/tshirt. The site won't let me renew or upgrade..
i cant myself..i sent a mail to 10c waiting for their answer..i guess they have to do something about this category(paid for many years already)
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Not impressed. Not care much. So long as there's friends and partying, everything else will fall into place.
im with this guy here..i will see you in the pj weekend brother?
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
For those who renewed in advance, there's no way 10C can take away your vinyl and hardcopy Deeps so long as they're still being produced. You paid for memberships that included them. They cannot say "Well, now you have to pay us even more if you want those". They have to honour their end of the deal, otherwise they should have never allowed for multiple years renewal. And I really hope people who are years ahead really don't pay extra for a t-shirt they cannot select and a download they can get elsewhere for free. Because I do fear many would do so just to be able to call themselves analog, which is sad.
so im ok till 2022? :roll:
If they were willing to take your money for membership up through 2022, then they had damn well better be willing to hold up their end of that transaction, so yes. If they are not willing to do that, I'd question the legality of it. It should not have been an option if they don't have the intention to honour it.
For those who renewed in advance, there's no way 10C can take away your vinyl and hardcopy Deeps so long as they're still being produced. You paid for memberships that included them. They cannot say "Well, now you have to pay us even more if you want those". They have to honour their end of the deal, otherwise they should have never allowed for multiple years renewal. And I really hope people who are years ahead really don't pay extra for a t-shirt they cannot select and a download they can get elsewhere for free. Because I do fear many would do so just to be able to call themselves analog, which is sad.
so im ok till 2022? :roll:
If they were willing to take your money for membership up through 2022, then they had damn well better be willing to hold up their end of that transaction, so yes. If they are not willing to do that, I'd question the legality of it. It should not have been an option if they don't have the intention to honour it.
i guess ill wait for their answer..here in Greece we say :you have the knife and you have the melon as well..so its up to the 10c..i ll wait ..i hope they deside something fair,i already have an idea,but ill tell them after they answer me.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
i think if you are crazy enough to have already paid up til 2021 and beyond you should be upgraded to analog membership for life(or the life of the band, which i have a feeling will be way before 2021)
what were ya gonna do when they end it in 2015 or so? ask for your money back??? or are you happy to burn 7 years worth of membership? just wondering is all.
i think if you are crazy enough to have already paid up til 2021 and beyond you should be upgraded to analog membership for life(or the life of the band, which i have a feeling will be way before 2021)
what were ya gonna do when they end it in 2015 or so? ask for your money back??? or are you happy to burn 7 years worth of membership? just wondering is all.
We would probably get our money back, I guess. I bought up till 2021 two or so year's ago. There was no limit in the goods section on how many year's you can go up to. So it's all good. Just hope we don't get a bill that say's we have to pay 20 bucks each year for those International Member's just to get that shirt in the mail.
I can't see this band ending any time soon. I got a feeling they will be around for a long time. They are the Rolling Stones of my generation.
as for the whole matter with this membership issue.i understand people has issues and dont like the idea..and have the right to tell their ideas..i think mail 10c to tell your issues is better than posting only in the forum
and talking about ideas...maybe is fair to do exept this analog - digital another deal
exable..the main reason to be in 10c is the 10c tickets..so lets pay per year depending if pj play in your country..
i pay same money as a member from uk that pearl jam played always when they come to europe and the last 20 years play in Greece just once..so i believe is fair me to pay less than those uk -german-dutch-italian etc fans..
or pearl jam include Greece every time they tour Europe
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I can't see this band ending any time soon. I got a feeling they will be around for a long time. They are the Rolling Stones of my generation.
Ha ha, reminds me of the Jimmy fallon scene in almost famous "If you think Mick Jagger(Eddie Vedder??) will still be out there trying to be a rock star at age fifty, then you are sadly, sadly mistaken."
Going "analog" for sure but waiting to hear back from 10club about my account. What happens to those user's, those international paying members ,who's already paid till 2021, like myself? :oops:
Hahaha! I emailed them about this as well!! Although i'm only paid up until 2012
Hopefully today if not tomorrow we'll get an answer to all this. Just wondering what they are gonna do.
ps .. did anybody else receive 3 emails back to back to back about this? I only have one account under my email addy. Don't remember buying 2 more on same addy. :shock:
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What are you talking about? They didn't put them in place on December 31, they just disabled the renewal function. If people had seen the announcement and renewed en masse with the old system well into the future, it would have created a major problem since that option technically no longer exists. They have this issue to sort out with folks who have already done so and it would have been exponentially worse if they had left the renewal feature up.
The Ten Club didn't lie to anyone. Again, the mountain of bizarre accusations and insults being lobbed at the band, et al. just because the cost of joining their fan club went up is really depressing.
I believe this statistic to be utter nonsense.
I'm not too excited about any of this crap.
I don't remember the last time I got any benefit out of being a 10c member...other than the occasional Deep magazine.
This is definitely quite lame IMO.
it's more of a statement then a statistic, 4 out of 5 people would have known that.
listening to Ramblings I from '91 really makes you see just how far this club has come (maybe not the best example but it just came up on my shuffle)... naturally it was bound to happen and i don't fault the band for it... but things sure feel a lot less personal at this point
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I think you're right on about the separation, but what are you gonna do? It's always more personal early on. If people want that, find a band that you like who's playing 200 person rooms; good chance they'll grab a beer with you after the show. It's impossible for a band of Pearl Jam's popularity to make things super personal just based on the sheer volume of fans who want a piece of them. (And having some who go to extreme lengths to do so certainly doesn't help with that.)
Woohoooo +1!!!
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Someone already mentioned Metallica.... Fan only gigs, meet & greets, backstage passes....
Yes, they most definitely did. Plenty of people said so and I myself saw the analog/digital options only in the goods section. And disabling the renew function would be the same thing. They really should have given members more notice. It was the least the could do.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
so im ok till 2022? :roll:
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Hahaha! I emailed them about this as well!! Although i'm only paid up until 2012
Hartford - 2010
Ed Solo - Hartford - 2011
Toronto X 2, Ottawa & Hamilton - 2011
Ed Solo - Jacksonville - 2012
London, Pittsburgh & Buffalo - 2013
No shows in 2014 :-(
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
If they were willing to take your money for membership up through 2022, then they had damn well better be willing to hold up their end of that transaction, so yes. If they are not willing to do that, I'd question the legality of it. It should not have been an option if they don't have the intention to honour it.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
what were ya gonna do when they end it in 2015 or so? ask for your money back??? or are you happy to burn 7 years worth of membership? just wondering is all.
We would probably get our money back, I guess. I bought up till 2021 two or so year's ago. There was no limit in the goods section on how many year's you can go up to. So it's all good. Just hope we don't get a bill that say's we have to pay 20 bucks each year for those International Member's just to get that shirt in the mail.
I can't see this band ending any time soon. I got a feeling they will be around for a long time. They are the Rolling Stones of my generation.
and talking about ideas...maybe is fair to do exept this analog - digital another deal
exable..the main reason to be in 10c is the 10c tickets..so lets pay per year depending if pj play in your country..
i pay same money as a member from uk that pearl jam played always when they come to europe and the last 20 years play in Greece just once..so i believe is fair me to pay less than those uk -german-dutch-italian etc fans..
or pearl jam include Greece every time they tour Europe
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Ha ha, reminds me of the Jimmy fallon scene in almost famous "If you think Mick Jagger(Eddie Vedder??) will still be out there trying to be a rock star at age fifty, then you are sadly, sadly mistaken."
Hopefully today if not tomorrow we'll get an answer to all this. Just wondering what they are gonna do.
ps .. did anybody else receive 3 emails back to back to back about this? I only have one account under my email addy. Don't remember buying 2 more on same addy. :shock: