***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

The Jeagler wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

no complaints here either. well other than one specific contract, but today isn't the time to bitch about that

I hear ya, but ya know, if this spending keeps going towards the sky, then I think it doesn't feel as bad for me. My point being that if the sky is the limit, then that contract might not hurt them in molding the roster as much going forward........well....hopefully.

agreed.

part of people's problems with the howard signing was that they just assumed the phillies maxed themselves out with their spending. at the time i said perhaps this is an indication they were willing to open their wallets a a bit more...turns out they were.

well adrian gonzalez is a better player and he just signed for less money. My complaint throughout the entire time has been that they overpaid for diminishing returns on their investment, which is just bad business.

hopefully it doesn't end the way I think it will

Anyway, does anyone (Cliffy if you see this) know when that Ommegang beer festival is in Cooperstown? Me and some buddies have been talking for like over a year now about putting together a large bus trip to Cooperstown to bring together that beer festival, going to the HOF, and playing a ball game at one of the HOF fields.

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Anyway, does anyone (Cliffy if you see this) know when that Ommegang beer festival is in Cooperstown? Me and some buddies have been talking for like over a year now about putting together a large bus trip to Cooperstown to bring together that beer festival, going to the HOF, and playing a ball game at one of the HOF fields.

Usually the last week in July. The date probably won't be set until early in the year. Tickets go immediately though, so you will have to be on top of it. When I hear, I will post it but you should go to the Ommegang website and sign up for their mailing list. You will get the info in your email when it's announced.

Ommegang is the fucking shit and the people that run it couldn't be cooler.

The Jeagler wrote:

in high school, our team was supposed to play connestoga at double day field...i was looking forward to it all year....f@cking thing got cancelled at the last minute. so pissed. can't remember the exact reason....but....no i don't know when the beer festival is. :x

One of my buddies in high school hit a bomb at Doubleday Field. Dude talks about it till this day.

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

in high school, our team was supposed to play connestoga at double day field...i was looking forward to it all year....f@cking thing got cancelled at the last minute. so pissed. can't remember the exact reason....but....no i don't know when the beer festival is. :x

One of my buddies in high school hit a bomb at Doubleday Field. Dude talks about it till this day.

Did he go to Polk High and is now a shoe salesman?

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Usually the last week in July. The date probably won't be set until early in the year. Tickets go immediately though, so you will have to be on top of it. When I hear, I will post it but you should go to the Ommegang website and sign up for their mailing list. You will get the info in your email when it's announced.

Ommegang is the fucking shit and the people that run it couldn't be cooler.

So I've heard. Thanks, man. Looks like if that's the case, then this will be two separate trips.

No problem. I highly recommend hitting Ommegang up for any weekend they allow camping and have some type of festival, whether it be the big festival or whatever. Great time.

Yeah, I'm looking for cheaper alternatives for trips this year - things that don't involve flying. A couple of my buddies did this fest before and volunteered. They said they just showed up and signed up. Ended up pouring beer the entire weekend while drinking for free, getting drunk and passing out in the middle of a field all weekend.

I'm such a fucking tool. Just watched the interview of him with NBC landing in Philly tonight, and I'm just giggling like an idiot. I can't say it enough - this....is.....ridiculous.

I need this photoshopped with all four pitcher's heads and Amaro as the manager like how they did this when Lebron went to Miami( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7xlzLOZH5c )..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpzOyc47 ... re=related or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA5arwOq3jA&NR=1

Phillies could match 1971 OriolesHalladay, Oswalt, Lee and Hamels all project as 15-game winners in 2011

Let's put this simply: With Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels and Roy Oswalt, the 2011 Philadelphia Phillies rotation isn't meant to just win; it's meant to demolish other teams.



The least -- least -- valuable member of the Phillies' 2011 front four, Oswalt, is projected to go 15-7 with a 3.40 ERA, according to the ZiPS projection models. If you're a fan of the Atlanta Braves or New York Mets, this is not good news.


Halladay projects to 19-7, 3.00; Lee to 16-8, 3.12; and Hamels to 15-8, 3.46. It's not the 1971 Baltimore Orioles, but it has that kind of potential.



1969 was the beginning of the divisional era, when many baseball historians and writers agree that pitching staffs started to take contemporary form. From 1969 to now, if you look at the top four starters on every team and calculate their WAR -- wins above replacement level -- the 2011 Phillies would be the 13th-best top four rotation in the past 41 years (combined WAR of 19.8), and the third-best since 1993. If you're curious, the 1973 Mets' front four is No. 1 -- Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, Jon Matlack and George Stone combined for a 22.9 WAR (the 1985 Mets with Dwight Gooden, Ron Darling, Sid Fernandez and Ed Lynch rank No. 3 since 1969).



With a little luck (ZiPS estimates about a 10 percent chance), the Phillies' new rotation could be the best one we've seen in more than 40 years -- and beating out staffs with Seaver, Gibson, Carlton, Gooden and Maddux is no small matter.



The 2011 playoffs are still 10 months off, but the smart money right now is on Phillies pitchers spending Halloween terrifying an AL team instead of neighborhood trick-or-treaters.

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I remember the Braves adding Greg Maddux to Smoltz, Glavine & Avery. In October, they were watching the Phillies celebrate the pennant in the Vet. So let's not suck each other's popsicles just yet.

i've already got my spot on the parade route locked up.