This is what an abortion looks like

_ · September 2010

This is everything that comes out of the uterus for an abortion at 5-6 weeks of pregnancy. The forceps are pointing to the gestational sac. The rest of the tissue is the lining of the uterus.

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Gestational sac from the abortion of a 6-7 week pregnancy. (They left out the lining of the uterus in this one.)

For all of you who think having an abortion necessarily kills a person, please identify the person in these photographs. The majority of abortions occur at less than 9 weeks of pregnancy (in the United States). The pictures commonly associated with abortion represent less than 0.07% of abortions. If you don't believe in abortion - fine; I just want people's beliefs to be based on accurate information.

BinauralJam · September 2010

:shock: i think i sneezed once, and had an abortion.

theserialthrilla · September 2010

life...its amazing how it grows and changes..

dasvidana · September 2010

BinauralJam wrote:

:shock: i think i sneezed once, and had an abortion.

dimitrispearljam · September 2010

BinauralJam wrote:

:shock: i think i sneezed once, and had an abortion.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · September 2010

I'm one of the few that actually is still on the fence on this issue (seems to me most are either way on one side or the other-not in the middle). I think it's important that a woman has the right to choose, but even if it looks like a sneeze at that stage, you are still snuffing out potential life, which also bothers me. And it's not a religious thing. I am agnostic.

I guess it's because I'm a parent of two beautiful daughters, and can't imagine having stopped their lives before they started. They are the most perfect little girls, it just breaks my heart to think, in hindsight of course, that it's legal to abort them.

But hey, hindsight is 20/20. Everyone's situation is different......I'm no judge...........I just know what I THINK I would do, and what I have done.

That being said.........my ex from several years ago had a miscarriage shortly before we split, and I feel like it's horrible to say, I'm glad she did. I can't imagine being tied to that nut for the rest of my life. But I've also always wondered what that baby would have turned out to be. But I guess it was nature's decision.

Shawshank · September 2010

This is an argument I usually don't engage in, because I believe circumstances occur where abortion is the only option. With that being said, if you want people to base their belief on accurate information then why don't you zoom in. I don't think anyone is under the misconception that babies are aborted wearing their Huggies and snuggling up with a Tickle Me Elmo. However, in that little "blob" for lack of a better term, is an embryo with a beating heart, most of their organs have either developed or are in the process of developing, little buds of their limbs have formed, and during this 5-7 week period is when they transition most. By 6 weeks, there's no mistaking it's a baby.

catefrances · September 2010

Paul David wrote:

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That being said.........my ex from several years ago had a miscarriage shortly before we split, and I feel like it's horrible to say, I'm glad she did. I can't imagine being tied to that nut for the rest of my life. But I've also always wondered what that baby would have turned out to be. But I guess it was nature's decision.

ive been there too. but i have enough living children that my guess as to what my other 2 would have been like would be a good one. sometimes i think about it but it doesnt last long cause theres no point really.

Drowned Out · September 2010

Paul David wrote:

I'm one of the few that actually is still on the fence on this issue (seems to me most are either way on one side or the other-not in the middle). I think it's important that a woman has the right to choose, but even if it looks like a sneeze at that stage, you are still snuffing out potential life, which also bothers me.

You're not on the fence...you're taking the position that most reasonable people take.
Not because it's a GOOD thing, or a necessary form of birth control...you don't even have to support the decision...but you're recognizing that it's not your decision to make. This puts you at odds with the pro-life crowd, whether you feel you're taking a side or not.

ajedigecko · September 2010

so.....begin posting pictures of each stage of human development. at what point of human development, will you cease to post the pictures?

it is human development, regardless of the number of week(s).

CJMST3K · September 2010

So, scb, why is there only photos of the earliest possibly abortion? If you really believe in your position, which I believe you've said is abortion for practically any age fetus, why not post photos of all of the ages that you agree should be legal for? You started this thread, so lets see you see it thru.

scb wrote:

For all of you who think having an abortion necessarily kills a person, please identify the person in these photographs.

Fair enough... So please post photos of abortions at all stages that YOU support. Whatever age photos you omit, I will assume you don't support.

scb wrote:

I just want people's beliefs to be based on accurate information.

Me too. Lets see photos of all age abortions, so we can see ACCURATE information.

cincybearcat · September 2010

Drowned Out wrote:

you're taking the position that most reasonable people take.

What a ridiculous statement. There are reasonable people on both sides of this discussion. Neither side has more or less.

_ · September 2010

Shawshank wrote:

This is an argument I usually don't engage in, because I believe circumstances occur where abortion is the only option. With that being said, if you want people to base their belief on accurate information then why don't you zoom in. I don't think anyone is under the misconception that babies are aborted wearing their Huggies and snuggling up with a Tickle Me Elmo. However, in that little "blob" for lack of a better term, is an embryo with a beating heart, most of their organs have either developed or are in the process of developing, little buds of their limbs have formed, and during this 5-7 week period is when they transition most. By 6 weeks, there's no mistaking it's a baby.

Of course everything is in the process of developing from the moment the egg and sperm meet. My purpose was to demonstrate what stage of development it's actually at and what abortions actually look like at this point in pregnancy. They don't look like the pictures you see people holding outside abortion clinics saying, "This is what you're doing to your baby." It's at the stage of development where it can't be seen with the naked eye - and the early ones can't even be seen with transvaginal ultrasound.

_ · September 2010

ajedigecko wrote:

so.....begin posting pictures of each stage of human development. at what point of human development, will you cease to post the pictures?

it is human development, regardless of the number of week(s).

I would post more, but these are the only ones I could find that are representative of early abortions, which most women have.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · September 2010

don't take that harsher than it is. I think they just meant "reasonable" as in "not a zealot".

cincybearcat wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

you're taking the position that most reasonable people take.

What a ridiculous statement. There are reasonable people on both sides of this discussion. Neither side has more or less.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · September 2010

I see what you're saying, but from most of the pro-choice folks I speak to, the process doesn't seem to bother them as much as it bothers me.

Drowned Out wrote:

Paul David wrote:

I'm one of the few that actually is still on the fence on this issue (seems to me most are either way on one side or the other-not in the middle). I think it's important that a woman has the right to choose, but even if it looks like a sneeze at that stage, you are still snuffing out potential life, which also bothers me.

You're not on the fence...you're taking the position that most reasonable people take.
Not because it's a GOOD thing, or a necessary form of birth control...you don't even have to support the decision...but you're recognizing that it's not your decision to make. This puts you at odds with the pro-life crowd, whether you feel you're taking a side or not.

_ · September 2010

CJMST3K wrote:

So, scb, why is there only photos of the earliest possibly abortion? If you really believe in your position, which I believe you've said is abortion for practically any age fetus, why not post photos of all of the ages that you agree should be legal for? You started this thread, so lets see you see it thru.

scb wrote:

For all of you who think having an abortion necessarily kills a person, please identify the person in these photographs.

Fair enough... So please post photos of abortions at all stages that YOU support. Whatever age photos you omit, I will assume you don't support.

scb wrote:

I just want people's beliefs to be based on accurate information.

Me too. Lets see photos of all age abortions, so we can see ACCURATE information.

MOST abortions are at less than 9 weeks gestation. These are the first photographs I've ever found online of what is seen when abortion is performed at less than 9 weeks. If I could find more, I would post them. My point is to show what it really looks like at the stage that MOST abortions occur. My position about how late they should be ALLOWED to occur is not relevant to when they actually DO occur.

Do abortions occur when the fetus is more developed? Yes. But when your sister or girlfriend or daughter has an abortion, chances are that is NOT the kind of abortion they are having - yet people associate those images with early abortions. I just think people should have the opportunity to associate accurate images with the abortions that are most likely occurring around them.

mrvedderson · September 2010

how often people forget that there are LIVING little swimmers made inside each man.

Drowned Out · September 2010

cincybearcat wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

you're taking the position that most reasonable people take.

What a ridiculous statement. There are reasonable people on both sides of this discussion. Neither side has more or less.

I think the pro-life side make a ton of valid points which cant' be disputed... However, I don't feel that it's reasonable for me to make a blanket judgement, for everyone. Obviously, most people feel this is the most reasonable position, or there would not be legal abortions. I don't really care if you think that's ridiculous; it's my opinion.

PD - Anyone who really thinks about the topic is deeply affected, unless they're just callous to begin with...and in my experience, once you have kids, those affects are multiplied by a bazillion. I know what you're saying too...but I think you're mistaken. I think most people just state their position casually because they don't want to think about how ugly the reality it is.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · September 2010

Drowned Out wrote:

PD - Anyone who really thinks about the topic is deeply affected, unless they're just callous to begin with...and in my experience, once you have kids, those affects are multiplied by a bazillion. I know what you're saying too...but I think you're mistaken. I think most people just state their position casually because they don't want to think about how ugly the reality it is.

but I think that might be the issue, that not all people think of it in the same terms as I/you do. they may not be looking at it as a living being, as many pro-choice folks don't believe it's a human being until it comes out of the womb. I think many are so focused on the rights of the individual it might cause them not to think about the smaller individual. It's all perception, really. If someone doesn't think it's a living being at that stage, then I don't think that person can be defined as callous.

I also need to point out I also can't decide at what point I consider the fetus an actual person. Which is part of my "position" problem.

Drowned Out · September 2010

Paul David wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

but I think that might be the issue, that not all people think of it in the same terms as I/you do. they may not be looking at it as a living being, as many pro-choice folks don't believe it's a human being until it comes out of the womb. I think many are so focused on the rights of the individual it might cause them not to think about the smaller individual. It's all perception, really. If someone doesn't think it's a living being at that stage, then I don't think that person can be defined as callous.

I also need to point out I also can't decide at what point I consider the fetus an actual person. Which is part of my "position" problem.

ya we're on the same page....I agree with all of this...except that I don't know of anyone who thinks life begins at birth. Absolutely, the grey line of 'life' is the detail that makes this such a hard topic. I sometimes feel like I'm taking the easy way out by saying 'its not my decision'...but really, I don't think it is...because I don't know the circumstances of each individual case, and it's none of my business.

This is what an abortion looks like

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