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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    Great example.....this is the headline on philly.com right now

    Kolb looks sharp on Day 1
    Video: First-year starting quarterback Kevin Kolb looked sharp after his first training camp practice at Lehigh today. He missed only a few passes. The same could not be said for backup quarterback Michael Vick.
    .

    new qb for first time in over a decade.
    the country's most popular sport.
    first day back since last year.

    not sure what you guy's expect here....
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    Great example.....this is the headline on philly.com right now

    Kolb looks sharp on Day 1
    Video: First-year starting quarterback Kevin Kolb looked sharp after his first training camp practice at Lehigh today. He missed only a few passes. The same could not be said for backup quarterback Michael Vick.
    .

    new qb for first time in over a decade.
    the country's most popular sport.
    first day back since last year.

    not sure what you guy's expect here....

    I just ignore most of this shit. I swore off espn a year ago and I will just watch mlb network until midway thru preseason...

    Like jp said, wake me for the 3rd preseason game.

    Midget face is great.
  • The Juggler
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    johnny america wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    I wouldn't call brown one of the top cover corners. He's average at best in coverage - evidenced by his int totals. I loved him as a player, but he wasn't that good in coverage. Tough dude, big hitter...not a great cover guy. I think was was better suited to play safety. Reid asked him to switch positions and he declined. Good luck on the browns. Reid doesn't make many personnel mistakes. Brown is on downside of his career.

    Don't sleep on macho harris. I think he's starting by week 7.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1802 ... statistics

    I hate the idea that more interceptions = better CB. First of all, what do interceptions have to do with man coverage? Int's come from zone packages, too. Ed Reed had 9 interceptions in '08, and Darren Sharper had 9 last season. Are they better corners than Sheldon? Oh, wait, they're Free Safeties.

    Nnamdi Asomugha has had far less interceptions in his career than many "top corners," and it is simply because he blankets receivers completely, and rarely allows a completion.

    Sheldon was a blanket, allowing one, ONE TD in 2008. Who was the recipient of that TD? Larry Fitzgeral, in the NFC championship game, no less. Pretty impressive for an "average" man coverage guy.

    Then, playing with an injured leg for most of 2009, Sheldon had 5 interceptions. Actually, six, but a Moise Fokou penalty negated one. It was a penalty after the pick, by the way. Six interceptions is pretty impressive, as is five, and if you'll notice, it was because Sheldon began playing a more risky, Samuel-style coverage as his leg suffered from more wear-and-tear throughout the season. Eventually, as the injury grew worse, more zone schemes were called by Sean McDermott, towards the end of the year.

    I'm sorry but, a healthy Sheldon Brown is a top-five man coverage CB in the league. He doesn't need flashy plays and pick-sixes, he plays a very meat-and-potatoes, physical man cover game. Also, he's great in zone coverage, and a huge hitter that would also make a great Safety.

    Sheldon was always criminally underrated. Samuel is overrated.

    sheldon was underrated...but you've managed to overrate him here dude. i really think he'd make a better safety at this point in his career. always was a big fan of his though.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    Great example.....this is the headline on philly.com right now

    Kolb looks sharp on Day 1
    Video: First-year starting quarterback Kevin Kolb looked sharp after his first training camp practice at Lehigh today. He missed only a few passes. The same could not be said for backup quarterback Michael Vick.
    .

    new qb for first time in over a decade.
    the country's most popular sport.
    first day back since last year.

    not sure what you guy's expect here....

    I just ignore most of this shit. I swore off espn a year ago and I will just watch mlb network until midway thru preseason...

    Like jp said, wake me for the 3rd preseason game.

    Midget face is great.

    espn blows. this is the most intriguing training camp since '04...well i guess '05 with all that nonsense. gonna be tough to ignore.
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  • The Fixer
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    johnny america wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    I wouldn't call brown one of the top cover corners. He's average at best in coverage - evidenced by his int totals. I loved him as a player, but he wasn't that good in coverage. Tough dude, big hitter...not a great cover guy. I think was was better suited to play safety. Reid asked him to switch positions and he declined. Good luck on the browns. Reid doesn't make many personnel mistakes. Brown is on downside of his career.

    Don't sleep on macho harris. I think he's starting by week 7.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1802 ... statistics

    I hate the idea that more interceptions = better CB. First of all, what do interceptions have to do with man coverage? Int's come from zone packages, too. Ed Reed had 9 interceptions in '08, and Darren Sharper had 9 last season. Are they better corners than Sheldon? Oh, wait, they're Free Safeties.

    Nnamdi Asomugha has had far less interceptions in his career than many "top corners," and it is simply because he blankets receivers completely, and rarely allows a completion.

    Sheldon was a blanket, allowing one, ONE TD in 2008. Who was the recipient of that TD? Larry Fitzgeral, in the NFC championship game, no less. Pretty impressive for an "average" man coverage guy.

    Then, playing with an injured leg for most of 2009, Sheldon had 5 interceptions. Actually, six, but a Moise Fokou penalty negated one. It was a penalty after the pick, by the way. Six interceptions is pretty impressive, as is five, and if you'll notice, it was because Sheldon began playing a more risky, Samuel-style coverage as his leg suffered from more wear-and-tear throughout the season. Eventually, as the injury grew worse, more zone schemes were called by Sean McDermott, towards the end of the year.

    I'm sorry but, a healthy Sheldon Brown is a top-five man coverage CB in the league. He doesn't need flashy plays and pick-sixes, he plays a very meat-and-potatoes, physical man cover game. Also, he's great in zone coverage, and a huge hitter that would also make a great Safety.

    Sheldon was always criminally underrated. Samuel is overrated.


    Dude, you're right about the int totals...that was a terrible example by me.

    Brown was never a top 5 cover guy though. His strength was always in off coverage and coming up to smack someone or support the run.

    I'm on my phone so I'm keeping my posts short. Bottom line is that if he wanted to stay here he could have. He didn't want to changee positions so reid gave him his walking papers. We will see how hee plays for the browns, but I think his best days are behind him. Reid has proven he's not gonna overpay for diminishing returns based on past performance. Great strategy that has worked for the eagles. Now we need to lock reid and amaro in a room together and force amaro to learn about how to manage contracts.

    Brown had a great eagle career. Good riddens
  • The Juggler
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    nate allen...set to be in the nest. hopfully graham signs in the next few games....GO BIRDS
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    The Jeagler wrote:
    nate allen...set to be in the nest. hopfully graham signs in the next few games....GO BIRDS

    None of the 1st rounders have signed yet. Once the chips start falling, then you'll see him.
  • Chip McFlennigan
    Chip McFlennigan Posts: 1,162
    The Jeagler wrote:

    sheldon was underrated...but you've managed to overrate him here dude. i really think he'd make a better safety at this point in his career. always was a big fan of his though.

    Not sure how me linking to an article that shows Sheldon's got top five overall numbers equates to me overrating Sheldon.

    He, like Dawk, was an invaluable part of a once-mighty defense that is going to be garbage this year.

    And as for Sheldon being a "better" safety, I don't remember him playing any safety in the NFL. He's a proven corner who is in his 30's. That doesn't mean that he's automatically a better safety than corner, now. I don't understand that logic. No one's saying Champ should be moved to safety.
    I knew it all along, see?
  • Chip McFlennigan
    Chip McFlennigan Posts: 1,162
    The Fixer wrote:

    Dude, you're right about the int totals...that was a terrible example by me.

    Brown was never a top 5 cover guy though. His strength was always in off coverage and coming up to smack someone or support the run.

    I'm on my phone so I'm keeping my posts short. Bottom line is that if he wanted to stay here he could have. He didn't want to changee positions so reid gave him his walking papers. We will see how hee plays for the browns, but I think his best days are behind him. Reid has proven he's not gonna overpay for diminishing returns based on past performance. Great strategy that has worked for the eagles. Now we need to lock reid and amaro in a room together and force amaro to learn about how to manage contracts.

    Brown had a great eagle career. Good riddens

    I know! Macho was a great replacement for Dawkins!

    *CHEAP SHOT*
    I knew it all along, see?
  • The Juggler
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    johnny america wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    sheldon was underrated...but you've managed to overrate him here dude. i really think he'd make a better safety at this point in his career. always was a big fan of his though.

    Not sure how me linking to an article that shows Sheldon's got top five overall numbers equates to me overrating Sheldon.

    He, like Dawk, was an invaluable part of a once-mighty defense that is going to be garbage this year.

    And as for Sheldon being a "better" safety, I don't remember him playing any safety in the NFL. He's a proven corner who is in his 30's. That doesn't mean that he's automatically a better safety than corner, now. I don't understand that logic. No one's saying Champ should be moved to safety.

    are you seriously comparing sheldon brown to champ bailey?

    sheldon was great. but i think you're hyping him up quite a bit here...especially at this point in his career.

    i think he's lost a step. he wasn't that quick to begin with. but he hits like a fucking linebacker...hence why i think he'd make a quality saftey at this point in his career.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Graham is signed for 5 years. Time to work on that Tweener, break em in.

    Midget Face just made an appearance on TV as well....
  • The Juggler
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    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Graham is signed for 5 years. Time to work on that Tweener, break em in.

    Midget Face just made an appearance on TV as well....

    great call. he looks like the little dude from jackass :lol:
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Graham is signed for 5 years. Time to work on that Tweener, break em in.

    Midget Face just made an appearance on TV as well....

    great call. he looks like the little dude from jackass :lol:

    He looks like many midgets. If I had a midget casting agency I'd call it 'Many Midgets'.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Graham is signed for 5 years. Time to work on that Tweener, break em in.

    Midget Face just made an appearance on TV as well....

    great call. he looks like the little dude from jackass :lol:

    wee man. haha, great call. so are we going with midget face or wee man?

    nice to see everyone signed. reid always gets people in camp on time.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Graham is signed for 5 years. Time to work on that Tweener, break em in.

    Midget Face just made an appearance on TV as well....

    great call. he looks like the little dude from jackass :lol:

    wee man. haha, great call. so are we going with midget face or wee man?

    nice to see everyone signed. reid always gets people in camp on time.

    I'm sticking with Midget Face because I think everyone will definitely get that. ALL HAIL MIDGET FACE.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    great call. he looks like the little dude from jackass :lol:

    wee man. haha, great call. so are we going with midget face or wee man?

    nice to see everyone signed. reid always gets people in camp on time.

    that would be joe banner.

    i'm good with either one.
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  • The Juggler
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    riley cooper needs a haircut.
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  • The Juggler
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    ellis hobbs mixed it up with riley cooper who outweighs him by a solid 50 pounds or so. i like the fight in him. to me, thats a good sign...

    luckily jacko's injury shouldn't hamper him too much. nothing serious....
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    I truly believe that Brent Celek will the a 10-12td guy this year. Can't wait to see this offensive run the way i think it can. We finially have weapons at every spot and think Kolb is gonna suprise many this year. If are Def plays good i think that 10-6 is very possible. If the Def is so-so then 8-8 is more likely,but id say 9-7 they finish.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Juggler
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    jamminpearls wrote:
    I truly believe that Brent Celek will the a 10-12td guy this year. Can't wait to see this offensive run the way i think it can. We finially have weapons at every spot and think Kolb is gonna suprise many this year. If are Def plays good i think that 10-6 is very possible. If the Def is so-so then 8-8 is more likely,but id say 9-7 they finish.

    i heard didnger saying he thinks celek will lead the team in receptions, djack in td's, and maclin in yards. that will be pretty impressive if it plays out like that.
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