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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    so you are insinuating that no one innocent has ever been put to death? or you just know that your response to this question would be hypocritical to your stance over the last 20 pages?
    chadwick wrote:
    Billy Pumpkin wrote:
    this is the problem. you can't justify killing because of killing. tell me how you feel about someone being convicted who didn't do the crime. is it enough to justify the use of the death penalty? and you once said that if your brother was a filthy criminal, you'd support him being put to death. however, what if you believed he was being wrongfully accused and put to death. would you still support the death penalty then?

    are you in a fantasy world.
    perhaps fantasy island?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Billy Pumpkin wrote:
    so you are insinuating that no one innocent has ever been put to death? or you just know that your response to this question would be hypocritical to your stance over the last 20 pages?
    i believe we discussed this yesterday. it would be terrible, just horrible to have an innocent life executed.
    that doesn't mean that form of punishment be done with. it still is on for the monsters, the maniacs, and the raving lunatics...

    again, i am sorry.

    all i know is that good has to be protected from evil.
    all i'm trying to do is be on the good side.
    if it means wiping out evil, then that's where i stand.

    btw, evil will never win.
    good always, every single time will prevail over the evil of mankind.

    offing a raving lunatic mass murderer is for the better of mankind.

    what about that child killer over in russia?
    what was his name, citizen x or some shit?
    let's find his story, shall we?
    just don't puke up your breakfast.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    evil manifests itself in many ways ... if we fight evil with evil ... what kind of world would we live in?
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59TFG_5Juw
    just found this, let's watch together.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    my point is, is that it is hypocritical to ask someone else to sacrifice their loved one for the "greater good" if you wouldn't be willing to sacrifice your own in the same situation.

    End of argument.
    chadwick wrote:
    Billy Pumpkin wrote:
    so you are insinuating that no one innocent has ever been put to death? or you just know that your response to this question would be hypocritical to your stance over the last 20 pages?
    i believe we discussed this yesterday. it would be terrible, just horrible to have an innocent life executed.
    that doesn't mean that form of punishment be done with. it still is on for the monsters, the maniacs, and the raving lunatics...

    again, i am sorry.

    all i know is that good has to be protected from evil.
    all i'm trying to do is be on the good side.
    if it means wiping out evil, then that's where i stand.

    btw, evil will never win.
    good always, every single time will prevail over the evil of mankind.

    offing a raving lunatic mass murderer is for the better of mankind.

    what about that child killer over in russia?
    what was his name, citizen x or some shit?
    let's find his story, shall we?
    just don't puke up your breakfast.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Billy Pumpkin wrote:
    my point is, is that it is hypocritical to ask someone else to sacrifice their loved one for the "greater good" if you wouldn't be willing to sacrifice your own in the same situation.

    End of argument.

    before you go, please watch the video i posted.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59TFG_5Juw
    just found this, let's watch together.

    well,
    that was informative & disgusting.
    so the guy likes to carve out a girl's uterus and eat it.
    big deal.
    let him live.
    :roll:

    i personally i am thrilled that the russians put a bullet into the back of his sick head.
    if only they had done it sooner.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Jason P wrote:
    I find it odd that conservatives and liberals are split so decisively on abortion and the death penalty. Both end life.


    I find it odd that Liberals support ProChoice but yet are against the death penalty. No problem killing an unborn child but that murderer doesn't deserve to die. Very confusing and ass-backwards if you ask me.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I find it odd that conservatives and liberals are split so decisively on abortion and the death penalty. Both end life.


    I find it odd that Liberals support ProChoice but yet are against the death penalty. No problem killing an unborn child but that murderer doesn't deserve to die. Very confusing and ass-backwards if you ask me.
    ...
    Pro Choice is Pro Choice... not Pro Abortion. There is a difference.
    Me... personally. I hope the woman chooses adoption as her CHOICE. But, it is not my call to make.. it is hers.
    Now... you may feel you get to decide for her... i don't.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    Jason P wrote:
    I find it odd that conservatives and liberals are split so decisively on abortion and the death penalty. Both end life.

    That's debatable.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    Godfather. wrote:
    :yawn: yada yada yada...all you humanitarians and you can't even talk to each other with out pushing your views on one another...human desire to win and take control,everybody has it and nobody knows what to do with it or with out it. :lol: we are a perfect example of the confusion that interrupts our judgment as a whole..
    we feel but don't know = opinion, I'll just watch from this point on.

    Godfather.

    So not gonna answer my question, then?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Cosmo wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I find it odd that conservatives and liberals are split so decisively on abortion and the death penalty. Both end life.


    I find it odd that Liberals support ProChoice but yet are against the death penalty. No problem killing an unborn child but that murderer doesn't deserve to die. Very confusing and ass-backwards if you ask me.
    ...
    Pro Choice is Pro Choice... not Pro Abortion. There is a difference.
    Me... personally. I hope the woman chooses adoption as her CHOICE. But, it is not my call to make.. it is hers.
    Now... you may feel you get to decide for her... i don't.


    Then I'm Pro-choice for the death penalty. Should a state choose to have it I'm all for them having that choice.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    scb wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I find it odd that conservatives and liberals are split so decisively on abortion and the death penalty. Both end life.

    That's debatable.

    True. One is hard pressed to call some of those monsters living beings.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Billy Pumpkin wrote:
    whoa, me thinks that's another thread entirely! :)
    Jason P wrote:
    I find it odd that conservatives and liberals are split so decisively on abortion and the death penalty. Both end life.


    Looks like someone took this the direction I was alluding to. ;)

    Ah ha! I knew that was the direction you were alluding to. Feel free to start another thread. ;)
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59TFG_5Juw
    just found this, let's watch together.
    no comments on this disturbing maniac?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    chadwick wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59TFG_5Juw
    just found this, let's watch together.
    no comments on this disturbing maniac?

    what is there to comment except this person is very disturbed?
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    can't watch youtube at work. it's blocked. but regardless, you summed it up anyway, so there is no need. absolutely disgusting that this peson does this. and this is supposed to sway me to want to kill people for justice? nice try.
    chadwick wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59TFG_5Juw
    just found this, let's watch together.
    no comments on this disturbing maniac?
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    polaris_x wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D59TFG_5Juw
    just found this, let's watch together.
    no comments on this disturbing maniac?

    what is there to comment except this person is very disturbed?
    and should he live or be sent away in a thin wooden box?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    chadwick wrote:
    all i know is that good has to be protected from evil.
    all i'm trying to do is be on the good side.
    if it means wiping out evil, then that's where i stand.

    btw, evil will never win.
    good always, every single time will prevail over the evil of mankind.

    I think once we stoop to their level then evil has already won. We have not only failed to protect the good, but we have just laid down and handed it over. I can tell you that I (and many others) don't want our "good" protected by people who think we must use evil to protect it.

    I have a question for you: How do you feel about state-sanctioned torture? If someone has kidnapped a child, raped and tortured her, and made a bag out of her skin, do you think it's okay to torture that person before we kill them?
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    pro-choice means the choice for the individual, not the state. you can't combine the two. and argue all you want about "the baby's choice" but it's a fetus, not a baby yet. I personally can't fathom ever making the choice to abort a pregnancy with my wife, but I won't support stopping someone else from making that choice if they feel they need to.
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Then I'm Pro-choice for the death penalty. Should a state choose to have it I'm all for them having that choice.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
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