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i would have taken a number 2 pencil for dalembert. this is great.
they better not take your boy favors now though...www.myspace.com0 -
The Jeagler wrote:i would have taken a number 2 pencil for dalembert. this is great.
they better not take your boy favors now though...
expiring contracts are like gold in the NBA. they got 2 scrubs back for dalembert's expiring deal...nocioni shoots like 20% from the field. he might have a worse jumpshot than iguodala...and he's got 3 years left on his current deal.
hawes is a big, white stiff.
I don't like this deal at all...they could have gotten more for dalembert. or just let his deal run out and had more cap room next year (ie, not take nocioni's contract).
for the record, I don't really care who they take at 2...I understand the argument for favors or turner. I really have no preference.0 -
The Fixer wrote:ed stefanski = ed wade
I think dalembert blows, but this trade sucks. fire his ass
I don't mind this trade a lil' bit. Thank God he's gone. Wish they could've packaged Iggy in a deal with him, which they had on the table but they wouldn't pull the trigger.
Stefanski's not quite Wade. He's better than Billy King. King gave out a ton of horrible contracts. So far, Stefanski's given out two, with the Brand one not being too irrational in my mind. It was either Smith or Brand, and Smith wasn't going anywhere. I can't fault the guy totally on that move by trying to make a splash. Plus, I think he has really good drafts. That could all change if they don't take Turner.0 -
Jearlpam0925 wrote:The Fixer wrote:ed stefanski = ed wade
I think dalembert blows, but this trade sucks. fire his ass
I don't mind this trade a lil' bit. Thank God he's gone. Wish they could've packaged Iggy in a deal with him, which they had on the table but they wouldn't pull the trigger.
Stefanski's not quite Wade. He's better than Billy King. King gave out a ton of horrible contracts. So far, Stefanski's given out two, with the Brand one not being too irrational in my mind. It was either Smith or Brand, and Smith wasn't going anywhere. I can't fault the guy totally on that move by trying to make a splash. Plus, I think he has really good drafts. That could all change if they don't take Turner.
the willie green contract might be his worst of all. he might be the worst guard in the nba.
I hate the package they got for dalembert (and I'm no fan of dalembert)...they would have been better off keeping him and getting the all-important cap relief after the year. nocioni fucking stinks0 -
The Fixer wrote:Jearlpam0925 wrote:The Fixer wrote:ed stefanski = ed wade
I think dalembert blows, but this trade sucks. fire his ass
I don't mind this trade a lil' bit. Thank God he's gone. Wish they could've packaged Iggy in a deal with him, which they had on the table but they wouldn't pull the trigger.
Stefanski's not quite Wade. He's better than Billy King. King gave out a ton of horrible contracts. So far, Stefanski's given out two, with the Brand one not being too irrational in my mind. It was either Smith or Brand, and Smith wasn't going anywhere. I can't fault the guy totally on that move by trying to make a splash. Plus, I think he has really good drafts. That could all change if they don't take Turner.
the willie green contract might be his worst of all. he might be the worst guard in the nba.
I hate the package they got for dalembert (and I'm no fan of dalembert)...they would have been better off keeping him and getting the all-important cap relief after the year. nocioni fucking stinks
I don't care about Nocioni. The point is Hawes knows how to play the center position, and you can rotate him without worry about the amount of money you're paying him. Unlike that dumbass Dalembert.0 -
interesting deal ... i think the problem with dalembert are two things: 1. he doesn't accept his role and 2. he doesn't pick up motion offences very good ...
dude can be a centre for a championship team if he just rebounded and played defense ... he's got decent hands around the basket and he can make his FT's for a big man ... and he's been relatively durable for a big ...
nocioni is useless without the ball and he's not gonna get the touches he needs in this offence ... hawes wants to shoot 3's ... and he's always getting hurt ... probably another guy who can be solid if he accepted his role ...
all in all ... if philly doesn't think dalembert can pick up the offensive and defensive sets ... probably a good deal although the nocioni contract sucks balls ...0 -
polaris_x wrote:interesting deal ... i think the problem with dalembert are two things: 1. he doesn't accept his role and 2. he doesn't pick up motion offences very good ...
dude can be a centre for a championship team if he just rebounded and played defense ... he's got decent hands around the basket and he can make his FT's for a big man ... and he's been relatively durable for a big ...
nocioni is useless without the ball and he's not gonna get the touches he needs in this offence ... hawes wants to shoot 3's ... and he's always getting hurt ... probably another guy who can be solid if he accepted his role ...
all in all ... if philly doesn't think dalembert can pick up the offensive and defensive sets ... probably a good deal although the nocioni contract sucks balls ...
Again, I'll take anything for Dalembert. Dalembert could be an all start center in the league if he accepted his role. And of course he doesn't.0 -
Jearlpam0925 wrote:
I don't care about Nocioni. The point is Hawes knows how to play the center position, and you can rotate him without worry about the amount of money you're paying him. Unlike that dumbass Dalembert.
Nocioni stinks...but even worse, he's owed 21 mill over the next 3 years.
Isn't Hawes a face the basket, jumpshooter? I don't think he is a strong presence on the block. and he's a 7'1 white dude, so it will be fun watching him get dunked on nightly.
can't believe I'm saying this, but I think their frontcourt just got worse.
Brand
Hawes
Nocioni
Speights
Jason Smith
worst frontcourt in the NBA0 -
polaris_x wrote:interesting deal ... i think the problem with dalembert are two things: 1. he doesn't accept his role and 2. he doesn't pick up motion offences very good ...
dude can be a centre for a championship team if he just rebounded and played defense ... he's got decent hands around the basket and he can make his FT's for a big man ... and he's been relatively durable for a big ...
nocioni is useless without the ball and he's not gonna get the touches he needs in this offence ... hawes wants to shoot 3's ... and he's always getting hurt ... probably another guy who can be solid if he accepted his role ...
all in all ... if philly doesn't think dalembert can pick up the offensive and defensive sets ... probably a good deal although the nocioni contract sucks balls ...
bottom line...dalembert wasn't a piece on the future of this squad. he had an expiring contract this year (worth it's weight in gold)...and they got crap back for him.
I hate the trade. would have been better off keeping him, letting his deal run out, and getting the extra cap space (not taking the horrible nocioni contract).
also, I think hawes deal is up after this year, so I don't think he's a building block either.
this deal reeks of saving money for the upcoming season (they didn't want to pay dalembert).0 -
Jearlpam0925 wrote:Again, I'll take anything for Dalembert. Dalembert could be an all start center in the league if he accepted his role. And of course he doesn't.
ya ... but to take on a bad contract? ... he's not that bad a player ... the sixers had the most success when dalembert played big minutes last year ...0 -
The Fixer wrote:bottom line...dalembert wasn't a piece on the future of this squad. he had an expiring contract this year (worth it's weight in gold)...and they got crap back for him.
I hate the trade. would have been better off keeping him, letting his deal run out, and getting the extra cap space (not taking the horrible nocioni contract).
also, I think hawes deal is up after this year, so I don't think he's a building block either.
this deal reeks of saving money for the upcoming season (they didn't want to pay dalembert).
ya ... i would have definitely kept him and watched how the season played out ... great trade material near the deadline ... the question is hawes ... big men and point guards are two positions that generally require a good deal of seasoning ... so, from what i've seen of him - he's got some decent skills ... he may mature and be a decent C in this league ... assuming he can stay healthy ...0 -
Clears the space for Derrick Favors...
Evan Turner falls to the Nets...0 -
polaris_x wrote:The Fixer wrote:bottom line...dalembert wasn't a piece on the future of this squad. he had an expiring contract this year (worth it's weight in gold)...and they got crap back for him.
I hate the trade. would have been better off keeping him, letting his deal run out, and getting the extra cap space (not taking the horrible nocioni contract).
also, I think hawes deal is up after this year, so I don't think he's a building block either.
this deal reeks of saving money for the upcoming season (they didn't want to pay dalembert).
ya ... i would have definitely kept him and watched how the season played out ... great trade material near the deadline ... the question is hawes ... big men and point guards are two positions that generally require a good deal of seasoning ... so, from what i've seen of him - he's got some decent skills ... he may mature and be a decent C in this league ... assuming he can stay healthy ...
exactly, his value only increases as the deadline approaches. this was a cash saving move, which doesn't make me happy. they should have done a lot better in a trade for dalembert.
pretty sure hawes is a free agent after the upcoming year. that's great, gives stefanski the chance to overpay him.
stefanski better pull of an iguodala trade to redeem himself0 -
after letting this set in for a few hours my initial burst of excitement at getting that hump sack off our team has subsided a little bit. i like hawes and hopefully they can resign him after next year. he was hurt last year. but this other guy and his bad contract, eh, not so much a fan. we probably could have gotten more for dalembert. still ecstatic he is gone...but then if this opens the door to them drafting anyone not named evan turner, i will personally blow up the corestates center (FU FU, WACHOVIA, AND WELLS FARGO). my apologies to the flyers. but it will need to be done.
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The Jeagler wrote:after letting this set in for a few hours my initial burst of excitement at getting that hump sack off our team has subsided a little bit. i like hawes and hopefully they can resign him after next year. he was hurt last year. but this other guy and his bad contract, eh, not so much a fan. we probably could have gotten more for dalembert. still ecstatic he is gone...but then if this opens the door to them drafting anyone not named evan turner, i will personally blow up the corestates center (FU FU, WACHOVIA, AND WELLS FARGO). my apologies to the flyers. but it will need to be done.
that is all.
just make sure stefanski is in the building before you light the fuse.
I'll admit I don't know much about hawes. I like to gamble on college hoops, so I remember him at Washington. I'm reading between the lines, which might not be fair, but here's my analysis.
7'1 and white = slow and uncoordinated
7'1 and prefers jump shots to posting up = soft
7'1 and averaged 6 boards a game = slow and soft
I always give guys the benefit of the doubt when they first come to philly. but I'm not expecting this guy to be one of my favorites.
nocioni hustles his ass off and plays tough, but he has limited basketball skill...and an atroicous contract
hopefully this move is the first part of a master plan. because looking at the trade as an independent move doesn't make much sense to me (and I couldn't stand dalembert)
ok, I think I got my point across. promise I'm done0 -
Black Diamond wrote:Clears the space for Derrick Favors...
Evan Turner falls to the Nets...
This is what I've been hearing.
Sorry Sixers fans. I know what it's like to pass on the next great player. My team has done it twice.NERDS!0 -
Any trade that gets sammy outta here is fine by me.Go Birds!!!!0
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Black Diamond wrote:Clears the space for Derrick Favors...
Evan Turner falls to the Nets...
You'd like that wouldn't you? Not happenin, ya bastid.
Besides, you're getting Lebron so don't be so stingey.0 -
it looks like this trade was more collins than stefanske. collins didn't want sammy infecting the team under his watch and wanted some more toughness. i can understand that. hoping there are more moves coming. if turner is the pick next week, you gotta be happy with where we're headed here gentlemen...www.myspace.com0
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The Jeagler wrote:it looks like this trade was more collins than stefanske. collins didn't want sammy infecting the team under his watch and wanted some more toughness. i can understand that. hoping there are more moves coming. if turner is the pick next week, you gotta be happy with where we're headed here gentlemen...
Yeah, but apparently Stekanski wants Turner and Collins wants Cousins. So we'll see. I don't see how you just don't take Turner.0
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