Woman dies saving her dog...

i have no desire to live a life of regrets. you either follow your heart or you dont. i follow my heart. my heroes follow their hearts as well. anyone who i respect follows their heart.

musicismylife78 wrote:

She had two choices: one, do nothing, and have the dying barks of her dog being tortured with flames haunt her the rest of her life, and wait for a firefighter who would have done nothing to save her dog OR two, man up, take a risk, and follow her heart, and save her dog. She made the right decision. She deserves to be alive, with her dog right now, but reguardless, she made the right decision.

Flat out, in my book, anyone who does nothing to save ANY type of being trapped in a fire or any type of situation, is an idiot, or worse. You dont sit around while something or someone you care about dies. You just dont.

of her two choices she should have done nothing. Her parents no longer have a daughter. No dog is worth that.

and in your book... would you save my pet ant? you said ANY type of being... you would try and save it? To call people idiots because they value their own life above that of a pet is hugely sanctimonious of you... I don't want my kids not having me as their father because i raced back into my burning house to save Fatty Bojangles and Professor Furrington (thats their hamsters)... thats idiotic... i love those wee critters, but i'll be fucked if i would make my children fatherless to save them.

your ideals are not those of others... your McCandless point proves this.

musicismylife78 wrote:

If you think its okay to do nothing while a pet is being killed, thats your own baggage friend. I wouldnt have it. I wouldnt be the meek, soulless thing that doesnt act.

I wouldn't save it... that would be the intelligent, sensible thing to do... does that make me meek and soulless? no, it makes me strong.. i have the mental strength to realise that, although horrific, the death of my pet is in no way comparable to the death of myself for my wife and children.

dunkman wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

She had two choices: one, do nothing, and have the dying barks of her dog being tortured with flames haunt her the rest of her life, and wait for a firefighter who would have done nothing to save her dog OR two, man up, take a risk, and follow her heart, and save her dog. She made the right decision. She deserves to be alive, with her dog right now, but reguardless, she made the right decision.

Flat out, in my book, anyone who does nothing to save ANY type of being trapped in a fire or any type of situation, is an idiot, or worse. You dont sit around while something or someone you care about dies. You just dont.

of her two choices she should have done nothing. Her parents no longer have a daughter. No dog is worth that.

and in your book... would you save my pet ant? you said ANY type of being... you would try and save it? To call people idiots because they value their own life above that of a pet is hugely sanctimonious of you... I don't want my kids not having me as their father because i raced back into my burning house to save Fatty Bojangles and Professor Furrington (thats their hamsters)... thats idiotic... i love those wee critters, but i'll be fucked if i would make my children fatherless to save them.

your ideals are not those of others... your McCandless point proves this.

considering sean, ed, krakauer, emile hersh all made the film because they thought chris was a hero, proves quite the opposite friend, my ideals are those of others. The movie is in my top 3 of all time. Changed my life. Anytime I think i am wasting my life, I think of chris. What would he be doing? Playing it safe, doing the norm, going along with the crowd? Or bucking the trends and following his heart?

I have posed it several times no, no one has guts to address it, they keep repeated the same regurgitated mindless junk. Everyone has their own idea of what they view is worthy to die for. I do things on my own terms. I dont give a damn personally what you all think of me and my views and anyone who has spent time on this board can attest to that. You act on what your heart feels. This woman felt it was her duty to not allow her dog to die in a fire, when she could save it.

the article didnt make mention of her being a mom or wife. she has no duty to her parents to say, "gee i dont want to make my parents childless, so i will do nothing as my dog gets burned alive". She has no obligation to that at all. I dont live my life that way, and I would be wary of anyone who does. I dont go around each day thinking "oh gee mommy and daddy might not like this, by golly I best not do this". I live on my own terms. I dont live my life for my parents. I live it for me. My life is to live as I see fit. No one, family, friends, the man on the corner, no one has the right to tell me how to live or how i should react or behave. What I value, I value. What I dont, I dont. Its my perogative to live my life according to those values, morals and ideals. No one else can tell me, what I should or shouldnt do in a situation like that. Its up to what I am feeling.

Anyone who lives their life according to their parents views or ideals is obviously not as grown up as they think they are. I aint gonna be 85 and drawing my last breath thinking, "by golly, I wish I had followed my parents wishes more and wish I had lived according to their views of life". Hell no.

musicismylife78 wrote:

considering sean, ed, krakauer, emile hersh all made the film because they thought chris was a hero, proves quite the opposite friend, my ideals are those of others. The movie is in my top 3 of all time. Changed my life. Anytime I think i am wasting my life, I think of chris. What would he be doing? Playing it safe, doing the norm, going along with the crowd? .

As I said, the book and movie are a very romaticised view of the reality of Chris McCandless and it does make 'swooning' reading and viewing (the film is absolutely stunning), but it's not the reality. There have been documentaries, reports, etc. which are more acurate. Was he a hero? Why would he be a hero? Because, for a amount of time, he decided to take a road trip? He was going back to society. It's not like he decided to live that kind of life for ever and a day. Lots of people take action/change their lives on a daily basis.

musicismylife78 wrote:

"by golly, I wish I had followed my parents wishes more and wish I had lived according to their views of life". Hell no.

Was anyone saying this on this thread?


Anyway.. a romatic film and book has nothing to do with the harsh reality of this lady losing her life and her parents and family losing a daughter and loved one. But they do have a dog (if they take it in).

musicismylife78 wrote:

it alternately amuses and shocks me you or anyone else would suggest this woman do nothing as her dog is dying, so as to spare her parents the agony of a dead daughter. I mean, really? So, i as a 26 year old male, am not supposed to do anything crazy, or silly, or dangerous, because I might cause pain if I die doing it? Yep, thats definitely a fun life, fun way to live life! Where can I sign up to follow this? Every decision I make needs to be approved by my parents. I cant do anything that might get me killed, which is let face it, everything in the world, because mommy and daddy might lose a child. Give me a king sized break. I aint living that life brother

Are you really 26? No disrespect, but I thought you might still have been a wide-eyed teenager.
Again, you misunderstand. No one is saying you cannot live the life you want. One is trying to rationalise whether a deemed 'foolish' action is on par to the pain your death will cause to loved ones (ie a child no longer having a parent, a parent no longer having a child, etc.). Is this rushing into a fire to save a pet a risk taken because YOU don't want to feel the guilt and the pain of knowing your pet suffered? I would say this is more likely the case. Gut reaction and emotion is needed to 'rush in'. It is a lot more difficult to think of possible consequences and what those would mean to your loved ones before thinking of yourself (ie your pain of losing your pet compared to the pain of others losing you) and requires strength.

You wanting to do something crazy, silly, dangerous to live your life is (hopefully!) a fully 'thought' action and you go into it fully aware. Rushing into a fire to save a pet (or anything/anyone else) is very different. You need to understand that.

8-)

musicismylife78 wrote:

dunkman wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

She had two choices: one, do nothing, and have the dying barks of her dog being tortured with flames haunt her the rest of her life, and wait for a firefighter who would have done nothing to save her dog OR two, man up, take a risk, and follow her heart, and save her dog. She made the right decision. She deserves to be alive, with her dog right now, but reguardless, she made the right decision.

Flat out, in my book, anyone who does nothing to save ANY type of being trapped in a fire or any type of situation, is an idiot, or worse. You dont sit around while something or someone you care about dies. You just dont.

of her two choices she should have done nothing. Her parents no longer have a daughter. No dog is worth that.

and in your book... would you save my pet ant? you said ANY type of being... you would try and save it? To call people idiots because they value their own life above that of a pet is hugely sanctimonious of you... I don't want my kids not having me as their father because i raced back into my burning house to save Fatty Bojangles and Professor Furrington (thats their hamsters)... thats idiotic... i love those wee critters, but i'll be fucked if i would make my children fatherless to save them.

your ideals are not those of others... your McCandless point proves this.

I dont give a damn personally what you all think of me and my views and anyone who has spent time on this board can attest to that. You act on what your heart feels. This woman felt it was her duty to not allow her dog to die in a fire, when she could save it.

the article didnt make mention of her being a mom or wife. she has no duty to her parents to say, "gee i dont want to make my parents childless, so i will do nothing as my dog gets burned alive". She has no obligation to that at all. I dont live my life that way, and I would be wary of anyone who does. I dont go around each day thinking "oh gee mommy and daddy might not like this, by golly I best not do this". I live on my own terms. I dont live my life for my parents. I live it for me. My life is to live as I see fit. No one, family, friends, the man on the corner, no one has the right to tell me how to live or how i should react or behave. What I value, I value. What I dont, I dont. Its my perogative to live my life according to those values, morals and ideals. No one else can tell me, what I should or shouldnt do in a situation like that. Its up to what I am feeling.

Anyone who lives their life according to their parents views or ideals is obviously not as grown up as they think they are. I aint gonna be 85 and drawing my last breath thinking, "by golly, I wish I had followed my parents wishes more and wish I had lived according to their views of life". Hell no.

So, you don’t care what others think of your views, yet you continually try to force them on people and attempt to guilt trip us into admitting you’re right?

People….well MOST people anyway will try always to do what’s right. Parents are, the vast majority of the time, role models to their children and as a consequence the child will always try to do things to make their parents proud. I still try to make my Dad proud and hope he would approve five years after his death. It’s not about being scared to make decisions for yourself, it’s about using common sense, applying the lessons taught to you. How dare you suggest people aren’t grown up who do otherwise.

You’ve obviously got a massive bug up your ass and I suggest you remove it before replying to others comments. Unless, of course, you’re scared of hurting the little feller and believe he has every right to be firmly wedged in your ass.

pandora wrote:

What is wonderful is not only did this amazing lady save someone she loved dearly but she has inspired so many people in choosing to do so.
Her actions have caused us to stop and think about what is important to each of us individually. We have searched our hearts, taken a look at our values, those instilled by our parents and life experiences.
We have shared with each other our differences but also the common bond we all feel, love.
Everyone here loves and is willing to die for that love. For some that would only be another life sharing human being. For others it is also a life sharing animal, and for still others it would encompass all life, be it even that of a stranger.
This is life. We are living together. We touch each others hearts. This lady has certainly touched mine.
If this was the plan, it worked.

were you conceived at Woodstock?