LOST- 6th and Final Season (NO SPOILERS)

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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    I agree with the theories that they aren't really dead, but I think, as was previously said, that there is something to the dead references, purgatory or a chance to atone for prior sins. Maybe those that die on the island are then sent to heaven or hell depending on what they chose to do in purgatory.

    And yes, I agree that MIB/Smokey/Flocke is "imprisoned" on the island. And somehow Jacob has kept him on the island all this time. At some point MIB lost his body maybe which explains why we only see him in Flashbacks. That also explains Smokey running amok after the plane crash (815). But why did he need Locke's body? Why couldn't he have used any of the other dead people, like the pilot of 815 which was the first person we saw him kill.

    Where does the Dharma Initiative come in?

    Where does time travel fit in?
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    whats the deal with the smoke always sparing certain people. Like when there is a staredown and it decides to fly off and not tear the person apart like everyone else.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    MayDay10 wrote:
    whats the deal with the smoke always sparing certain people. Like when there is a staredown and it decides to fly off and not tear the person apart like everyone else.

    Sometime I think it is sparing them so he can use them in the future-like last night he spared Richard so he could try and have him kill Jacob
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    MayDay10 wrote:
    whats the deal with the smoke always sparing certain people. Like when there is a staredown and it decides to fly off and not tear the person apart like everyone else.

    Sometime I think it is sparing them so he can use them in the future-like last night he spared Richard so he could try and have him kill Jacob
    I agree with that but I also think that under their "agreement" he can not kill someone who is on the "list" of replacements until they prove that they have failed to grow as humans or change their lives... I give you Eko as an example..
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  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    Black Diamond wrote:
    I agree with that but I also think that under their "agreement" he can not kill someone who is on the "list" of replacements until they prove that they have failed to grow as humans or change their lives... I give you Eko as an example..
    Oh Eko!!!!! Wherefore art thou, Eko??
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Oh! I know I'm about a year late in bringing this up but seeing the Ajira plane in last week's episode reminded me of something. Kate is a convicted felon and one of the terms of her probation was that she couldn't leave the state for 10 years. So how the hell did she get on an international flight? Paging Homeland Security!

    OK, back to Season 6. :mrgreen:
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Bird33 wrote:
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Bird33 wrote:

    just an fyi...richard does not wear manscara. this was discussed in the extras that came with the s5 boxset.

    I am loving your avatar!!

    :mrgreen:

    Are you Bill Simmons?
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    whoprincess wrote:
    Oh! I know I'm about a year late in bringing this up but seeing the Ajira plane in last week's episode reminded me of something. Kate is a convicted felon and one of the terms of her probation was that she couldn't leave the state for 10 years. So how the hell did she get on an international flight? Paging Homeland Security!

    OK, back to Season 6. :mrgreen:
    Well Guam is technically not an internation destination, but your point is still valid :o
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Good discussion here today!

    I enjoyed last night's episode. Not the best, but still a fun hour.

    Sorry if this is obvious to everyone, but the whole thing with Smokey not being able to leave the island has to do with Jacob being alive, right? Ben killed Jacob, so why can't Smokey/MIB/Locke just leave the island now? Maybe that is what he is doing by grouping everyone together, but if he was stuck there as long as he was wouldn't he just jet as soon as Jacob died?

    I hope they don't forget about explaining why babies cannot be born on the island. That was one of the things that really fascinated me.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    I was disappointed last night - I know part of it was I was hoping for so much more. Figure we waited over two years for a Richard ep and when we get it we are given no info on his interactions with the original inhabitants, widmore, dharma, etc... just seems like some huge gaps were left in there.

    I'm hoping it really starts moving soon - feels like we're kind of stalled right now waiting for the next 'act' to kick in. And more Desmond, please... he seems important to me, but I'm sure he'll be back at some point.
  • tvismyfriend
    tvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    rrivers wrote:
    Good discussion here today!

    I enjoyed last night's episode. Not the best, but still a fun hour.

    Sorry if this is obvious to everyone, but the whole thing with Smokey not being able to leave the island has to do with Jacob being alive, right? Ben killed Jacob, so why can't Smokey/MIB/Locke just leave the island now? Maybe that is what he is doing by grouping everyone together, but if he was stuck there as long as he was wouldn't he just jet as soon as Jacob died?

    I hope they don't forget about explaining why babies cannot be born on the island. That was one of the things that really fascinated me.
    I`m thinking it`s because Jacobs replacement is on the island currently.
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    I`m thinking it`s because Jacobs replacement is on the island currently.
    i was wondering that too -- either he's going to try and get his people to kill the other 'candidates' or maybe he is just needing to work a plan through to get off? And can he just up and leave on a sub, or does it have to be through the wheel or what?

    It's weird - I'm thinking those are answers we might not get for a while yet.
  • Brony
    Brony Posts: 648
    Didnt Dego(chinese guy in temple?) give syid the job of killing Flocke with a knife and couldnt let him talk to him first? that is what MIB told richard to do to jacob too...right? also, when ben and flocke were in the statue and stabbed jacob, he was talking to them....so it was ok to kill him then, but last night, it had to be before he spoke.

    so anyway....is what syid was supposed to do to flocke the same thing as what mib had richard attempt?
  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    rrivers wrote:

    Are you Bill Simmons?

    I wish I was Mrs. Bill Simmons...no lie.
    Man I love that guy. ::swoon::
  • Brony
    Brony Posts: 648
    Brony wrote:
    Didnt Dego(chinese guy in temple?) give syid the job of killing Flocke with a knife and couldnt let him talk to him first? that is what MIB told richard to do to jacob too...right? also, when ben and flocke were in the statue and stabbed jacob, he was talking to them....so it was ok to kill him then, but last night, it had to be before he spoke.

    so anyway....is what syid was supposed to do to flocke the same thing as what mib had richard attempt?
    i think i confused the hell out of myself with this post
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Brony wrote:
    Brony wrote:
    Didnt Dego(chinese guy in temple?) give syid the job of killing Flocke with a knife and couldnt let him talk to him first? that is what MIB told richard to do to jacob too...right? also, when ben and flocke were in the statue and stabbed jacob, he was talking to them....so it was ok to kill him then, but last night, it had to be before he spoke.

    so anyway....is what syid was supposed to do to flocke the same thing as what mib had richard attempt?
    i think i confused the hell out of myself with this post
    No, you're right. I was talking about this with a friend this morning - it makes no sense. :|
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    drsluggo wrote:
    I was disappointed last night - I know part of it was I was hoping for so much more. Figure we waited over two years for a Richard ep and when we get it we are given no info on his interactions with the original inhabitants, widmore, dharma, etc... just seems like some huge gaps were left in there.

    I'm hoping it really starts moving soon - feels like we're kind of stalled right now waiting for the next 'act' to kick in. And more Desmond, please... he seems important to me, but I'm sure he'll be back at some point.

    Desmond's locked in that Widmore room, right?
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    Good discussion here today!

    I enjoyed last night's episode. Not the best, but still a fun hour.

    Sorry if this is obvious to everyone, but the whole thing with Smokey not being able to leave the island has to do with Jacob being alive, right? Ben killed Jacob, so why can't Smokey/MIB/Locke just leave the island now? Maybe that is what he is doing by grouping everyone together, but if he was stuck there as long as he was wouldn't he just jet as soon as Jacob died?

    I hope they don't forget about explaining why babies cannot be born on the island. That was one of the things that really fascinated me.
    I`m thinking it`s because Jacobs replacement is on the island currently.

    Ok that makes sense. So it has to be someone in the Jack camp so that leaves Hurley, Jack, who else? I guess it could be Sawyer so it doesn't have to be in Jack's camp. I think it would be interesting for Sawyer to take over the island because he seems like such a long shot to do it.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    drsluggo wrote:
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    I`m thinking it`s because Jacobs replacement is on the island currently.
    i was wondering that too -- either he's going to try and get his people to kill the other 'candidates' or maybe he is just needing to work a plan through to get off? And can he just up and leave on a sub, or does it have to be through the wheel or what?

    It's weird - I'm thinking those are answers we might not get for a while yet.

    Or ever.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Brony wrote:
    Didnt Dego(chinese guy in temple?) give syid the job of killing Flocke with a knife and couldnt let him talk to him first? that is what MIB told richard to do to jacob too...right? also, when ben and flocke were in the statue and stabbed jacob, he was talking to them....so it was ok to kill him then, but last night, it had to be before he spoke.

    so anyway....is what syid was supposed to do to flocke the same thing as what mib had richard attempt?

    Good point, I forgot that the chinese guy told Sayid to do it that way. I was thinking MIB had told someone else that but you are right.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."

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