SMOKERS STINK!

Drowned Out wrote:

vduboise wrote:

Some people just don't realize that they stink. and unfortunately, if it is not regulated in some way, then people suffer on both sides. its called common courtesy- and some people don't do it.
I work in a kitchen, and if you go out and smoke- wash your hands after is a must. the smoke smell doesn't linger as much with the food smells in the air.

and Danimal, when you go to the bathroom- you do wash your hands, right??

But how much are you suffering? I mean, lets be real here....are you stuck smelling this all day, or are you crying about smelling smoke for 5 seconds every couple hours?

And a kitchen is different...but fuck...do we need RULES telling us to wash our hands? Legislate common courtesy? Are we fucking gerbils or what?

I mean...we're talking about people's livelihood being manipulated by subjective rules surrounding smells and hygeine...doesnt that sound overboard to most of you? No better way of handling it?

Hypothetical - There is evidence that deoderant causes all kinds of illnesses. So if I were to stop wearing it, and either developed a errrr natural scent that you found offensive, or if I used an alternate product you didn't like the smell of....whose rights are more important? Do I need to smell like everyone else at the detriment of my health just so that you don't have to smell my subjectively offensive odour? There is no way to keep everyone happy....so kids,we need to find ways to play together without grown up supervision.

As with everything else in life - It's the overly rigid, uncompromising people on BOTH sides that cause the problems.

on a side note: Apparently we do need RULES telling us to wash our hands- that is why there are signs in the bathroom of restaurants. There is the food safety course that I took and you know what is one of the leading causes of food borne illnesses- other people and not properly washing their hands and keeping clean.
- and most kitchens (and the DOH) have rules on hygiene too- that is why we have uniforms- and we have to change our shoes and wear a hat. And no perfumes (well, in most of the places I've worked).

but back to smoking- for me, I don't smoke and don't like the smell. I have no problem if you want to smoke- but it make you stink. When we are doing private functions and I'm stuck in a van for awhile- the smoke stink becomes very cloying and unbearable. Yes I can , and do , open the window.
Some smokers just don't see the other side of the coin- and can care less- I'm not wanting to take your freedom to smoke away- but why take my freedom to not have to smell the residue.

Yes, both sides are passionate about the smoking issue- but why can't courtesy go both ways?

I was just going to let this go, but....one more.
The same thing happened in the smoking during pregnancy thread – I ended up defending something I don’t support, out of frustration at the lack of compassion and empathy. I’ve noticed that I end up doing this virtually alone – the smokers are so beaten down that they’re afraid to try to defend themselves. (still, I don’t see anyone here ‘freaking out’ about being called stinky – like this is news to a smoker :roll: )
I’ll say again – I don’t smoke. I used to, so I see both sides. I have actually become really sensitive to second hand smoke, and yes, the smell grosses me out too. I just get annoyed by how dramatic people are about this topic. Smokers have been long relegated to a frowned upon sub-species, and most go out of their way to try to keep you people happy. Sure, there are bad apples, and sure, SOME of you do have actual health issues with THIRD hand smoke….but like I said…the indignation is totally disproportionate to the harm and hassle. A two second wiff of third hand smoke does not a victim make. :roll: Smokers are an easy target, and criticizing them as a whole is an easy way for people to feel superior.

Vdub – I acknowledged that kitchens and food prep are different; I have no problem regulating clean hands in that environment. But in pretty much any other workplace, it’s total overkill IMO. Yes – courtesy should go both ways.
Scb – If the rules at your workplace are no smoking; so be it. I think it’s ridiculous to not give smokers a place, outdoors, to do their thing…but that’s not my call.

Until smoking is an illegal activity, or banned altogether from the workplace, we need to find happy mediums and not just shit on the minority at every turn, just because it seems to be becoming more and more socially acceptable to do so.

florence151 wrote:

I don't care if folks smoke or not. We let guests smoke in our house.

We quit 4 years ago and put the money we would have spent in a special account. We are using that money to go to Europe next summer for shows in Ireland and Berlin and a nice week more just being on vacation. How much did we save by not smoking one pack a day? About $7,000.00 :shock: :shock: :shock:

Christ, if I was a smoker that would be enough incentive for me to quit. That's outstanding.

Perhaps if I stop buying so much beer I could do the same thing. :oops:

I had a lady that would keep her butts in her desk drawer because she didn't want to walk down the steps to put them in the receptacle when it was cold and windy. Now that stunk!

It took my Niece to ask her Dad to quit smoking in the house after she was diagnosed with asthma. He didn't believe that the second-hand smoke had any effect on her health, it took her to open his eyes. And for a while he quit smoking due to her questioning his habit, and I gave him credit for that. But unfortunately he has gone back to smoking, but now he smokes outside and leaves his coat in the mud room, so at least there has been some compromise, but I would like to see him quit for his own health.

The thing that irks me the most is when smokers believe their rights are being infringed when they are not allowed to smoke in restaurants/bars. They always told me I had the option of not going to places that allowed smoking. I didn't see that as an option at all, since no business was willingly going to turn away the smokers willing to spend their money in their establishment. Now due to new laws there are some bars that that allow smoke that don't serve food or don't allow anyone under 21 admittance, and there are also bars that serve food and have no smoking. I think the laws actually give people more choices now, which is a good thing.

I would never go out of my way to embarrass someone that smokes, but I will not go out of my way to accommodate them either. If I meet someone that has a terrible smoke smell to them I just won't interact as much with them, just like if someone smelled bad for any other reason stated. Reminds me of a story my Grandmother would tell me of how she would have a garlic sausage sandwich when there was a girls basketball game in school, no one would want to guard her during the game. It cracks me up more since she is a whole 4 foot nothing!!

Indifference71 wrote:

dcfaithful wrote:

florence151 wrote:

I don't care if folks smoke or not. We let guests smoke in our house.

We quit 4 years ago and put the money we would have spent in a special account. We are using that money to go to Europe next summer for shows in Ireland and Berlin and a nice week more just being on vacation. How much did we save by not smoking one pack a day? About $7,000.00 :shock: :shock: :shock:

Christ, if I was a smoker that would be enough incentive for me to quit. That's outstanding.

Perhaps if I stop buying so much beer I could do the same thing. :oops:

Ha. I always think about how much money I could save if I didn't drink. I dont even wanna know how much I waste on alcohol.

I know! I'm freshly 21, that guilt shouldn't catch up with me for a couple of years, if even then. Drinking is too much fun, I don't want to see the annual bill.

The Jeagler wrote:

the dude next to just absolutely reaks today.

and this lingers all day long since he is outside like every 30 minutes or so. once the smell starts to wear off, he's outside again and it starts all over again.

i wish cigarretes were never invented! :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

I'm a little late to the party, but have you tried putting an air freshener on your desk?

Best product on the market for smokers and their smell. You can spray your coworker's clothing and your office, works amazingly well.


http://www.amazon.com/Febreze-Freshener ... B001PMCA8M

I am an ex-smoker, I used to smoke at least a pack a day! I quit when I found out I was pregnant the first time. My partner still smokes (outside only!!) but... the smell doesn't bother me, like Pandora said when he comes back inside he smells relaxed. I really don't give a rats ass if people want to poison themselves and smell like an ash tray. I find B/O to be way more offensive than the smell of smoke.

Shall we make a list of things that we don't want our co-workers to do as it offends us.

I'll start: don't look at me, your fugly face offends my sensitive nature

The butts tossed out windows bugs me to no end. We've had quite a few forest fires start from careless thoughtless oblivious morons tossing butts out the car window...keep it to yourself, morons... Sometimes i'll write down the license plate of those offenders in case a fire does start, because they are held responsible for the damage...