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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    where do the jets and giants play. Where are the jets and giants training camps. Answer me that.

    I don't get what you are getting at. Giants train in Albany, Jets I believe are now in Cortland, both in New York.

    So you are claiming it is okay to be a fan of a team 1,500 miles away because the Giants play 5 miles outside of NYC due to a lack of space in NYC? The New Jersey argument is fucking dumb.
    the jersey argument is not dumb. Jersey is no different than dallas to me. Just cause giant stadium is a state away and 80 miles from me I'm supposed to root for teams that don't even play in my state. I root for the cowboys cause I've actually been to a regular season game in the old texas stadium and didn't leave the team after they sucked. I can rattle off all the cowboys coaches since jimmy johnson left or anything else cowboys. I can't name all of the giants or jets coaches of the last 15 years or what they did..
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    metsfan wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    where do the jets and giants play. Where are the jets and giants training camps. Answer me that.

    I don't get what you are getting at. Giants train in Albany, Jets I believe are now in Cortland, both in New York.

    So you are claiming it is okay to be a fan of a team 1,500 miles away because the Giants play 5 miles outside of NYC due to a lack of space in NYC? The New Jersey argument is fucking dumb.
    the jersey argument is not dumb. Jersey is no different than dallas to me. Just cause giant stadium is a state away and 80 miles from me I'm supposed to root for teams that don't even play in my state. I root for the cowboys cause I've actually been to a regular season game in the old texas stadium and didn't leave the team after they sucked. I can rattle off all the cowboys coaches since jimmy johnson left or anything else cowboys. I can't name all of the giants or jets coaches of the last 15 years or what they did..

    I personally don't give a shit if you are a Cowboys fan, however, I think you should probably pick between the Cowboys and the Jets.

    My point is local sports coverage in NY State in general is Giants, Jets, Yankees, Mets, etc. They are the local team whether they play 5 miles away in Jersey or NYC.
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    From the original article at the beginning fo th thread ...
    # If you're between the ages of 20-40, you're a fan of the Yankees, Cowboys, Braves, Raiders, Steelers, Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Canadiens and/or Oilers, and you're not actually from those one of those cities ... well, you better have a reason that goes beyond "When I was picking a favorite team as a kid, they were the best team, so I picked them."


    I'd like to add the Red Sox and Red Wings to this list.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    jimed14 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    g under p wrote:

    However, the Patriots are in the same state.

    I haven't lived in Boston since I was a youth (70's) and I still am a Boston fan. Since then I've lived in Brooklyn NYC, Florida and DC etc and STILL and will always be a Beantown fan. That's just the way it is and I've have NEVER wavered from that as most of you on here may already know.

    No fraud here through think and thin.
    Peace

    And I have not lived in NY in 4 years and am not sure when I will again but I will always be a New York sports fan. If I were to change I would consider myself a fraud.

    ok, this I can get behind ... Boston sports for life, even though I'll probably live in Cali from here on out.

    It's funny last year a friend gave me a Washington Nationals hat when we attended a Nats/Red Sox game in DC. Proudly packed with Sox fans I might add. Man, I like the Nationals and all BUT I could NOT get myself to put on that Nationals hat to save my life (nice hat too) and I still have put it on. I just felt I would be betraying some unknown blue line or something of sportsdom. ;)

    Peace
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    g under p wrote:

    It's funny last year a friend gave me a Washington Nationals hat when we attended a Nats/Red Sox game in DC. Proudly packed with Sox fans I might add. Man, I like the Nationals and all BUT I could NOT get myself to put on that Nationals hat to save my life (nice hat too) and I still have put it on. I just felt I would be betraying some unknown blue line or something of sportsdom. ;)

    Peace

    Don't get me wrong, I pull for the SF Giants and 49ers and Sharks as they are in different leagues/conferences as the Sox/Pats/B's (no hats or gear though!). Where as the Raiders, and A's are in the same leagues/conferences so they can go f--- themselves.

    But, if it came to a playoff ... screw these San Fran teams! :D
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    It doesn't matter where the jets and giants play in jersey, its still. New jersey. Am I supposed to root for the devils and nets cause they are also "local" teams or am I supposed to root for the knicks and islanders cause they actually play in the state of new york.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    jimed14 wrote:
    g under p wrote:

    It's funny last year a friend gave me a Washington Nationals hat when we attended a Nats/Red Sox game in DC. Proudly packed with Sox fans I might add. Man, I like the Nationals and all BUT I could NOT get myself to put on that Nationals hat to save my life (nice hat too) and I still have put it on. I just felt I would be betraying some unknown blue line or something of sportsdom. ;)

    Peace

    Don't get me wrong, I pull for the SF Giants and 49ers and Sharks as they are in different leagues/conferences as the Sox/Pats/B's (no hats or gear though!). Where as the Raiders, and A's are in the same leagues/conferences so they can go f--- themselves.

    But, if it came to a playoff ... screw these San Fran teams! :D

    Ahhhhhh, same here Capitals, Wizards yes I'll root for as long as they aren't playing Boston. The O's and the Deadskins can go fuck themselves. The Ravens yes except for last week, man did they kick our ass. :(

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    metsfan wrote:
    It doesn't matter where the jets and giants play in jersey, its still. New jersey. Am I supposed to root for the devils and nets cause they are also "local" teams or am I supposed to root for the knicks and islanders cause they actually play in the state of new york.

    I dont get what you are getting at. If someone lives in the New York area and follows the Nets or Devils, I have no problem with that.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    metsfan wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    where do the jets and giants play. Where are the jets and giants training camps. Answer me that.

    I don't get what you are getting at. Giants train in Albany, Jets I believe are now in Cortland, both in New York.

    So you are claiming it is okay to be a fan of a team 1,500 miles away because the Giants play 5 miles outside of NYC due to a lack of space in NYC? The New Jersey argument is fucking dumb.
    the jersey argument is not dumb. Jersey is no different than dallas to me. Just cause giant stadium is a state away and 80 miles from me I'm supposed to root for teams that don't even play in my state. I root for the cowboys cause I've actually been to a regular season game in the old texas stadium and didn't leave the team after they sucked. I can rattle off all the cowboys coaches since jimmy johnson left or anything else cowboys. I can't name all of the giants or jets coaches of the last 15 years or what they did..

    YOU = FRAUDULENT.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    It doesn't matter where the jets and giants play in jersey, its still. New jersey. Am I supposed to root for the devils and nets cause they are also "local" teams or am I supposed to root for the knicks and islanders cause they actually play in the state of new york.

    I dont get what you are getting at. If someone lives in the New York area and follows the Nets or Devils, I have no problem with that.
    why should I root for teams that don't even play in my state. The jets, giants, devils and nets all play in NEW JERSEY. Why should I as someone in NEW YORK root for teams that play in NEW JERSEY. It doesn't matter if they are 10 minutes from nyc or down in Atlantic city, its STILL NEW JERSEY. What part of all that are you not getting. I wasn't even around when the. Jersey jets and jersey giants last played home games in the state of new yotk.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    metsfan wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    It doesn't matter where the jets and giants play in jersey, its still. New jersey. Am I supposed to root for the devils and nets cause they are also "local" teams or am I supposed to root for the knicks and islanders cause they actually play in the state of new york.

    I dont get what you are getting at. If someone lives in the New York area and follows the Nets or Devils, I have no problem with that.
    why should I root for teams that don't even play in my state. The jets, giants, devils and nets all play in NEW JERSEY. Why should I as someone in NEW YORK root for teams that play in NEW JERSEY. It doesn't matter if they are 10 minutes from nyc or down in Atlantic city, its STILL NEW JERSEY.

    Because they are the local teams!!!! If you turn on a radio or the tv, or walk into a bar, what teams are on and who is everyone cheering for? Listen, I am not the one accusing you of being a fraud, all I am saying is that the New York Giants and Jets are the NFL teams that REPRESENT New York. The fact they don't play in NY due to money and space is irrelevant.


    "why should I root for teams that don't even play in my state."

    Then why do you like Dallas? Why do you cheer for an NFL team at all if your city does not have one?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    jamminpearls wrote:
    One thing i know is metsfan i mean islandersfan i mean brian is a fraud :shock:

    just look up #18 :mrgreen:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    loadedgun wrote:

    I don't have to be a fan of a team just because I live in the same state or city that they play in. I'd rather think for myself which team I want to follow, not just the closest.
    +1

    When was the last time the jersey jets or jersey giants played a game in new york. Can anyone answer that. Does anyone wanna steup and answer me that question.

    Dumb argument, Patroits don't play in Boston but all Boston sports fans should be Pats fans. Giants and Jets are the NYC teams.

    he's just trying to justify rooting for the cowboys. :roll:

    with his dumb logic, i should have no loyalty to the eagles because they dont play in collegeville, pa (where the jeagler resides). :lol:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    g under p wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:

    Dumb argument, Patroits don't play in Boston but all Boston sports fans should be Pats fans. Giants and Jets are the NYC teams.

    However, the Patriots are in the same state.

    I haven't lived in Boston since I was a youth (70's) and I still am a Boston fan. Since then I've lived in Brooklyn NYC, Florida and DC etc and STILL and will always be a Beantown fan. That's just the way it is and I've have NEVER wavered from that as most of you on here may already know.

    No fraud here through think and thin.
    Peace

    yup. your story checks out...not a fraud. :clap:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    g under p wrote:

    However, the Patriots are in the same state.

    I haven't lived in Boston since I was a youth (70's) and I still am a Boston fan. Since then I've lived in Brooklyn NYC, Florida and DC etc and STILL and will always be a Beantown fan. That's just the way it is and I've have NEVER wavered from that as most of you on here may already know.

    No fraud here through think and thin.
    Peace

    And I have not lived in NY in 4 years and am not sure when I will again but I will always be a New York sports fan. If I were to change I would consider myself a fraud.

    this is a man who get's it. :clap:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    metsfan wrote:
    It doesn't matter where the jets and giants play in jersey, its still. New jersey. Am I supposed to root for the devils and nets cause they are also "local" teams or am I supposed to root for the knicks and islanders cause they actually play in the state of new york.

    am i the only one who thinks if the jets or giants played in the viciinity of new york city, this guy would still be a cowboys fan?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    jimed14 wrote:
    g under p wrote:

    It's funny last year a friend gave me a Washington Nationals hat when we attended a Nats/Red Sox game in DC. Proudly packed with Sox fans I might add. Man, I like the Nationals and all BUT I could NOT get myself to put on that Nationals hat to save my life (nice hat too) and I still have put it on. I just felt I would be betraying some unknown blue line or something of sportsdom. ;)

    Peace

    Don't get me wrong, I pull for the SF Giants and 49ers and Sharks as they are in different leagues/conferences as the Sox/Pats/B's (no hats or gear though!). Where as the Raiders, and A's are in the same leagues/conferences so they can go f--- themselves.

    But, if it came to a playoff ... screw these San Fran teams! :D

    i can respect this jimed.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    regarding the post about the ravens fan betting on the patriots though...

    what are your thoughts about betting against your team? i say it is 100%, stone cold lock fraudulent. even if your team is a LOCK not to cover. i would never do it. and i berate my friends who would dare think about such benedict arnold move.

    one of my buddy's in college would bet against the birds. this is when they were awful. he would do it on the sneak though. he'd have his girlfriend call the bookie for him. he corrupted that poor lassie. technically this was his way of not being a fraud. but we would all call him out for it.

    this year people were saying the birds were a lock not to cover against the chargers. i knew it too. but in a case like this, i say you just lay off. you can never go against your team.
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    Because they are the local teams!!!! If you turn on a radio or the tv, or walk into a bar, what teams are on and who is everyone cheering for? Listen, I am not the one accusing you of being a fraud, all I am saying is that the New York Giants and Jets are the NFL teams that REPRESENT New York. The fact they don't play in NY due to money and space is irrelevant.


    "why should I root for teams that don't even play in my state."

    Then why do you like Dallas? Why do you cheer for an NFL team at all if your city does not have one?
    they represent new york cause most of the fanbase is from new york cause at one time both teams played in new york. I highly doubt any new yorker would root for the jets or giants if all the history they had was in new jersey. They don't play in ny cause they didn't want to be 2nd class citzens at shea and yankee stadium and cause the people that hold office where the west side yard is are dickheads. The west side yard has tons of space to hold a stadium. It was only a few years ago the jets wanted to move to the west side yard.

    Cause I'm a fan of football and I gotta root for someone. Would it be that big of a deal if growing up I was a fan of the cards or vikings or is it the fact that I'm a cowboys fan that bothers all of you philly people. You philly people are the only ones on who have a problem with this. How much of a bunch of pathetic people are you.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    The Jeagler wrote:
    regarding the post about the ravens fan betting on the patriots though...

    what are your thoughts about betting against your team? i say it is 100%, stone cold lock fraudulent. even if your team is a LOCK not to cover. i would never do it. and i berate my friends who would dare think about such benedict arnold move.

    one of my buddy's in college would bet against the birds. this is when they were awful. he would do it on the sneak though. he'd have his girlfriend call the bookie for him. he corrupted that poor lassie. technically this was his way of not being a fraud. but we would all call him out for it.

    this year people were saying the birds were a lock not to cover against the chargers. i knew it too. but in a case like this, i say you just lay off. you can never go against your team.

    Just find some other game to bet on and leave your team out of it.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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