Shooting at Fort Hood

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    Red_Dot wrote:
    From Fox news:

    A military doctor who feared an impending war deployment is believed to be the gunman behind a shooting rampage Thursday afternoon at the Army's Fort Hood in Texas that killed 12 and wounded 31 before the gunman was shot multiple times.
    Three soldiers were taken into custody as possible suspects, Lt. Gen. Bob Cone told reporters Thursday evening, though two were later released.
    Cone identified the lone gunman as Major Malik Nadal Hasan, a psychiatrist who reportedly didn't believe in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and wanted out of the military before he was set to be deployed overseas.
    Hasan was in stable condition at a local hospital Thursday night, Cone said after previously reporting that he was killed at the scene
    i have a feeling the gunman is going to wish he had been killed because once his trial comes about its not going to be pretty for him.
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    desperate people have been known...to render desperate deeds.


    to quote a song.,



    but that's the truth. this system drives us to terrible things.


    we are all human. it could have been you. or me.
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Commy wrote:
    desperate people have been known...to render desperate deeds.


    to quote a song.,



    but that's the truth. this system drives us to terrible things.


    we are all human. it could have been you. or me.


    How does the system drive people to shoot groups of innocent people? To me this is an inhuman act.
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  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    This was some horrible news to wake up to, I hope the family of the gunman is OK and my thoughts go out to the victims families.

    Base commander Lt Gen Bob Cone said that one of the dead was a policeman and the others were soldiers. Thirty other people were injured in the attack.
    President Barack Obama described it as "a horrific outburst of violence".
    He said: "It is difficult enough when we lose these brave men and women abroad, but it is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on US soil."
    The president extended his condolences to the families of the victims, adding: "We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident."

    Lt Gen Cone said a graduation ceremony for a group of soldiers was taking place close to where the shooting began.
    "Thanks to the quick reaction of several soldiers, they were able to close off the doors to that auditorium where there were some 600 people inside," he said.
    "As horrible as this was, I think it could have been much worse."

    "I was confused and just shocked," said Specialist Jerry Richard, 27, who works on the base.
    "Overseas you are ready for it. But here you can't even defend yourself."
    Another Fort Hood soldier told the BBC that the incident could put pressure on Muslim American soldiers.
    "They've taken it hard, due to the fact that it kind of puts a negative light on them and makes people distrust them because everybody is going to look at them [and think]: 'Well, you're probably going to pull something like this'," the soldier said.
    "And it's a sad fact that that will happen."
    Texas Governor Rick Perry ordered all flags in the state to fly at half-mast as a tribute to the victims.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    i am surprised this thread has not gotten more attention.

    are we so desensitized to violence that we hear this tragic news and think "ho-hum, on with my life..."?

    to me it is sad for these guys to have either just come back from deployment or were about to leave for deployment get gunned down at the one place they were supposed to be safe.
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  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    Shooter was shot 4 times and is still alive. :o Why even waste money and time on a trial. He's guilty and that's that.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i am surprised this thread has not gotten more attention.

    are we so desensitized to violence that we hear this tragic news and think "ho-hum, on with my life..."?

    to me it is sad for these guys to have either just come back from deployment or were about to leave for deployment get gunned down at the one place they were supposed to be safe.

    We now live in a world of *Language of Violence* it's everywhere. Another shooting in Orlando Florida 2 apparently dead and 8 wounded in an office building......And the beat goes on. :(

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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    now breaking news- lots of people shot in orlando
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    yeah and guns don't kill people, people do. :roll:

    i would say the gun plays some small part in the outcome of these events.

    these poor poor souls. i hope they rest in peace.

    will this madness ever stop?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Waiting for the NRA to step in and say these could have been avoided with conceal and carry laws
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Maybe I'm wrong but I have a feeling there will be much to learn about the shooter, his background and his motives. I'm glad that at least he survived and can be held accountable. Usually so many answers die with the perpetrator. The whole thing just sickens me but I don't want to speculate about it. I think of tragedies like Columbine where so many of the initial reports about the shooters turned out to be inaccurate but are still accepted as truths by many people.

    But I just can't get past the senselessness of this.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    I am really quite disturbed by this but am trying hard to look past the most obvious explanation until we get more info ... Meaning, the guy is another Islamic fundamentalist fucking psycho like the people who cannot even read a political cartoon with declaring a Jihad. I mean, this man is a fucking psychiatrist. He took an oath to heal and help people, and instead he took the route of a cowardly fanatic shooting unarmed men. Was he psychotic and therefore not choosing his actions? I hope so, because that would (in a weird sort of way) be less revolting than having to keep living in fear of these fanatics who think that women have no business going to high school and that sneezing at a mosque means you lose a few digits. SICK of it. Sick of these psychos who choose extremism. And sorry, its a goddamn choice, at the end of the day, unless you happen to be insane in a legal sense.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Waiting for the NRA to step in and say these could have been avoided with conceal and carry laws

    How is this even a gun control issue? The guy is an officer in the US military (shockingly enough). He was going to get guns and ammo, some how, some way. Why are people acting as if this is even the issue here?
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    rebornFixer wrote:
    I am really quite disturbed by this but am trying hard to look past the most obvious explanation until we get more info ... Meaning, the guy is another Islamic fundamentalist fucking psycho like the people who cannot even read a political cartoon with declaring a Jihad. I mean, this man is a fucking psychiatrist. He took an oath to heal and help people, and instead he took the route of a cowardly fanatic shooting unarmed men. Was he psychotic and therefore not choosing his actions? I hope so, because that would (in a weird sort of way) be less revolting than having to keep living in fear of these fanatics who think that women have no business going to high school and that sneezing at a mosque means you lose a few digits. SICK of it. Sick of these psychos who choose extremism. And sorry, its a goddamn choice, at the end of the day, unless you happen to be insane in a legal sense.
    not surprised that you have Salman Rushdie in your sig...
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    _outlaw wrote:
    rebornFixer wrote:
    I am really quite disturbed by this but am trying hard to look past the most obvious explanation until we get more info ... Meaning, the guy is another Islamic fundamentalist fucking psycho like the people who cannot even read a political cartoon with declaring a Jihad. I mean, this man is a fucking psychiatrist. He took an oath to heal and help people, and instead he took the route of a cowardly fanatic shooting unarmed men. Was he psychotic and therefore not choosing his actions? I hope so, because that would (in a weird sort of way) be less revolting than having to keep living in fear of these fanatics who think that women have no business going to high school and that sneezing at a mosque means you lose a few digits. SICK of it. Sick of these psychos who choose extremism. And sorry, its a goddamn choice, at the end of the day, unless you happen to be insane in a legal sense.
    not surprised that you have Salman Rushdie in your sig...

    Not surprised that you're focusing on my sig and blowing off the basic issue ... Guess we're partners in not being too surprised.
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    rebornFixer wrote:
    I am really quite disturbed by this but am trying hard to look past the most obvious explanation until we get more info ... Meaning, the guy is another Islamic fundamentalist fucking psycho like the people who cannot even read a political cartoon with declaring a Jihad. I mean, this man is a fucking psychiatrist. He took an oath to heal and help people, and instead he took the route of a cowardly fanatic shooting unarmed men. Was he psychotic and therefore not choosing his actions? I hope so, because that would (in a weird sort of way) be less revolting than having to keep living in fear of these fanatics who think that women have no business going to high school and that sneezing at a mosque means you lose a few digits. SICK of it. Sick of these psychos who choose extremism. And sorry, its a goddamn choice, at the end of the day, unless you happen to be insane in a legal sense.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    rebornFixer wrote:
    I am really quite disturbed by this but am trying hard to look past the most obvious explanation until we get more info ... Meaning, the guy is another Islamic fundamentalist fucking psycho like the people who cannot even read a political cartoon with declaring a Jihad. I mean, this man is a fucking psychiatrist. He took an oath to heal and help people, and instead he took the route of a cowardly fanatic shooting unarmed men. Was he psychotic and therefore not choosing his actions? I hope so, because that would (in a weird sort of way) be less revolting than having to keep living in fear of these fanatics who think that women have no business going to high school and that sneezing at a mosque means you lose a few digits. SICK of it. Sick of these psychos who choose extremism. And sorry, its a goddamn choice, at the end of the day, unless you happen to be insane in a legal sense.
    yer mom

    Is that really all you can come up with?
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    edited November 2009
    rebornFixer wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    rebornFixer wrote:
    I am really quite disturbed by this but am trying hard to look past the most obvious explanation until we get more info ... Meaning, the guy is another Islamic fundamentalist fucking psycho like the people who cannot even read a political cartoon with declaring a Jihad. I mean, this man is a fucking psychiatrist. He took an oath to heal and help people, and instead he took the route of a cowardly fanatic shooting unarmed men. Was he psychotic and therefore not choosing his actions? I hope so, because that would (in a weird sort of way) be less revolting than having to keep living in fear of these fanatics who think that women have no business going to high school and that sneezing at a mosque means you lose a few digits. SICK of it. Sick of these psychos who choose extremism. And sorry, its a goddamn choice, at the end of the day, unless you happen to be insane in a legal sense.
    yer mom

    Is that really all you can come up with?
    not at all. i just thought it was fitting to your ignorant post where you make way too many assumptions.
    it's being reported that he was a psychiatrist who reportedly didn't believe in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and wanted out of the military before he was set to be deployed overseas. that doesn't make him a fundamentalist fucking psycho to use your words.

    Ignorance and fear breeds mental health discrimination. thanks for confirming that.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    rebornFixer wrote:
    I am really quite disturbed by this but am trying hard to look past the most obvious explanation until we get more info ... Meaning, the guy is another Islamic fundamentalist fucking psycho like the people who cannot even read a political cartoon with declaring a Jihad. I mean, this man is a fucking psychiatrist. He took an oath to heal and help people, and instead he took the route of a cowardly fanatic shooting unarmed men. Was he psychotic and therefore not choosing his actions? I hope so, because that would (in a weird sort of way) be less revolting than having to keep living in fear of these fanatics who think that women have no business going to high school and that sneezing at a mosque means you lose a few digits. SICK of it. Sick of these psychos who choose extremism. And sorry, its a goddamn choice, at the end of the day, unless you happen to be insane in a legal sense.

    what is it that disturbs you most?? im quite disturbed by your "most obvious" explanation.

    when i heard about this i thought aah shit not again. to me the fact that this man is a muslim(which i only discovered after) is neither here nor there. if he had not been identified as muslim... and i have to wonder whether he would have been described as a christian if that were the case... i wonder what your attitude would be.
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    catefrances wrote:
    rebornFixer wrote:
    I am really quite disturbed by this but am trying hard to look past the most obvious explanation until we get more info ... Meaning, the guy is another Islamic fundamentalist fucking psycho like the people who cannot even read a political cartoon with declaring a Jihad. I mean, this man is a fucking psychiatrist. He took an oath to heal and help people, and instead he took the route of a cowardly fanatic shooting unarmed men. Was he psychotic and therefore not choosing his actions? I hope so, because that would (in a weird sort of way) be less revolting than having to keep living in fear of these fanatics who think that women have no business going to high school and that sneezing at a mosque means you lose a few digits. SICK of it. Sick of these psychos who choose extremism. And sorry, its a goddamn choice, at the end of the day, unless you happen to be insane in a legal sense.

    what is it that disturbs you most?? im quite disturbed by your "most obvious" explanation.

    when i heard about this i thought aah shit not again. to me the fact that this man is a muslim(which i only discovered after) is neither here nor there. if he had not been identified as muslim... and i have to wonder whether he would have been described as a christian if that were the case... i wonder what your attitude would be.
    ex fucking actly.

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