farewell to Ten Club (long)

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  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Wait a second, I guess I missed that part with the post being so long I guess, or maybe I'm too tired but, he still got good tickets?

    Dude,

    STFU!

    Seriously OP, you got great seats and you are still butt hurt? Man I was in the middle on this one too! Not anymore.
  • joeroberts
    joeroberts Posts: 13
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Wait a second, I guess I missed that part with the post being so long I guess, or maybe I'm too tired but, he still got good tickets?

    Dude,

    STFU!

    Seriously OP, you got great seats and you are still butt hurt? Man I was in the middle on this one too! Not anymore.

    Yes I am because:
    1) there were still tickets available at the box office but somehow they were hidden. Can someone explain me that?
    2) I was not cheating anybody but I've paid twice the price to get regular tickets; probably I could have found a chepear scalper out there.

    And, by the way, I won't ever STFU!

    R
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    edited August 2009
    I want to know how good these seats were

    Has it occurred to you that box offices might have tickets tucked away for such occasions, and that you might not have been as dicked over as you think you were? Has that thought crossed your mind for a second?
    Post edited by SolarWorld on
  • joeroberts
    joeroberts Posts: 13
    edited August 2009
    SolarWorld wrote:
    I want to know how good these seats where...

    Has it occurred to you that box offices might have tickets tucked away for such occasions, and that you might not have been as dicked over as you think you were? Has that thought crossed your mind for a second?

    Section 111, Row Z seats 350-351

    And no, this option has not crossed my mind since rules are rules and shit never happens, I've been taught by Karen.
    Post edited by joeroberts on
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    joeroberts wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    I want to know how good these seats were...

    Has it occurred to you that box offices might have tickets tucked away for such occasions, and that you might not have been as dicked over as you think you were? Has that thought crossed your mind for a second?

    Section 111, Row Z seats 350-351

    Hmmm, those look like they suck. Good seats? I think they got you twice! :lol:
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Seriously though did you try and call ten club and speak to them about this before you went "postal" on the message board?
  • joeroberts
    joeroberts Posts: 13
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Seriously though did you try and call ten club and speak to them about this before you went "postal" on the message board?

    2nd section (3rd if you count side stage section) from the stage, closer than half the arena.
    To me they still sound good.
    3rd level or nosebleed seats would have been worse, how fool I am.

    Prior to post it, I sent the message to 3 addresses of the fan club. Should you're interested, I'll keep you updated on their reply, although I won't bet a dime on a reasonable one.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    While I do empathize with Ricardo and understand his frustration... there are a couple of points I'd like to make...
    First off... August 15th... kinda short notice, yeah? I mean, I know the whole thing came up out of the blue, with the broken leg and all... being completely out of anyone's control... but, that short of a lead time does not allow for much confirmation/authorization... especially when they are already out on the road. There's a lot of stuff that goes on with a tour... let alone an overseas tour. I am certain you understand that, too.
    Also... I am glad that the Ten Club is strict with their tickets. It limits access to the tickets, especially from the general public. Some of those other fan clubs allow members to 'swap' tickets... which many do... swap tickets for cash and at a hefty profit.
    We have all gone through this ticket buying pre-sale here, right? Imagine if it were easy to transfer tickets... wouldn't that mean i could buy tickets for London... while living in L.A... with no intentions of going, rather, buying them with the sole purpose to sell them at a premium to pay for the local shows I plan on attending. And anyone living anywhere could do the same. Why not buy enough tickets to finance a free ride to a few shows?
    ...
    Again, I understand your plight... and i understand the Ten/VHC's side of the arguement. I am trying to look at it as objectively as I can.
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    joeroberts wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Wait a second, I guess I missed that part with the post being so long I guess, or maybe I'm too tired but, he still got good tickets?

    Dude,

    STFU!

    Seriously OP, you got great seats and you are still butt hurt? Man I was in the middle on this one too! Not anymore.

    Yes I am because:
    1) there were still tickets available at the box office but somehow they were hidden. Can someone explain me that?
    2) I was not cheating anybody but I've paid twice the price to get regular tickets; probably I could have found a chepear scalper out there.

    And, by the way, I won't ever STFU!

    R
    ...
    The 'Hidden' tickets are normally No-Shows. Tickets set aside for promoters, band friends and family, etc... If they don't show up, the tickets are up for grabs.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    joeroberts wrote:
    Prior to post it, I sent the message to 3 addresses of the fan club. Should you're interested, I'll keep you updated on their reply, although I won't bet a dime on a reasonable one.

    You should have waited for a response, they might have made it right.
  • Ben Carty
    Ben Carty Posts: 29
    Did you enjoy the gig in the end? Or did rage clog your ears?
    Last words. Last words out.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    No one is legally obligated to accept a proxy letter unless they choose to do so. No laws were broken. In terms of "hidden tickets", there are always a bunch of seats held-back to accommodate guests of the band, industry people, etc. It is commonplace for such tickets to be released even after the headliner has come onstage. Those tix are not under the control of the 10c
  • OceanStone
    OceanStone Posts: 333
    SolarWorld wrote:
    joeroberts wrote:
    Prior to post it, I sent the message to 3 addresses of the fan club. Should you're interested, I'll keep you updated on their reply, although I won't bet a dime on a reasonable one.

    You should have waited for a response, they might have made it right.

    +1, I would really love to see how 10C reply, keep us updated, will you?
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    Wow! I wonder why 10c singled you out...they have made a MILLION exceptions in the past!

    And whoever said that your friend should have "confirmed with his doctor"...that shit was hilarious!!!

    Seriously, I come to this board because of the free comedy.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • luxpjamer
    luxpjamer Posts: 837
    Danimal wrote:
    Wow! I wonder why 10c singled you out...they have made a MILLION exceptions in the past!

    And whoever said that your friend should have "confirmed with his doctor"...that shit was hilarious!!!

    Seriously, I come to this board because of the free comedy.
    :lol:
    I really feel with the poor guy.
    In France they say : "le client est roi" which means the customer is king. Ten Club should have enough experience to manage these kind of situations. There you have an 10c member with enough documents to prove his story and the responsable person isn't even listening to him. Sorry that's poor !
    On the other side this may have been a shitty situation but normally 10c is working very well. So don't blame the whole 10c I'm sure they'll answer you and find a solution !
    Beavis : Is this Pearl Jam?
    Butt-head: This guy makes faces like Eddie Vedder.
    Beavis: No, Eddie Vedder makes faces like this guy.
    Butt-head: I heard these guys, like, came first and Pearl Jam ripped them off.
    Beavis: No, Pearl Jam came first.
    Butt-head: Well, they both suck.
  • Kinsey
    Kinsey Posts: 197
    Riccardo,

    Be sure that you follow this up. I hope your friend is also up to pursuing 10c on this issue. With all of the communication that you say happened between your side and 10c, and the assurance that with a proxy letter and the necessary i.d., you should not have been treated this way.

    Certainly the attitude that you report from the 10c's representative was appalling. For all those who are posting about 10c rules and guidelines, 10c have put themselves on shaky legal ground by confirming a transfer verbally and then denying it. A proxy letter, signed by the original purchaser, is a sound legal device. Reasonable people would also agree that simple common sense dictates that life will sometiomes throw up obstacles to attending a gig, for which tickets have been purchased months in advance. Ownership should be transferable. The original purchaser even confirmed his transfer on the phone!! That point seems to have been lost by those defending 10c hiding behind their rules and regulations.

    Consider as well the, in my view, ridiculous requirement that pairs of tickets muct be purchased by 10c. What if you have bought tickets, organised to bring a friend and then had to cancel due to illness, bereavement, etc? Where does that leave your friend? I've been going to PJ gigs for 13 years, and always with the one friend. For London, he had to pull out just before. What if it had been me that had to pull out? The tickets were in my name.

    I hope that the OP gets some justice on this.
    When we found the things we loved,
    They were crushed and dying in the dirt.
    We tried to pick up the pieces,
    And get away without getting hurt,
    But they caught us at the state line,
    And burned our cars in one last fight,
    And left us running burned and blind,
    Chasing something in the night.
  • twojawas
    twojawas Posts: 318
    Scott36 wrote:
    Anyone siding with the Ten Club here seriously needs to get off their knees and think rationally for a minute. Most everyone on this board is of the opinion that Pearl Jam and the Ten Club can do no wrong. This situation is absolute fucking bullshit, and I'd be damn pissed too. Sorry you had to deal with that shit, Riccardo. I can certainly understand why you never want to deal with the Ten Club again. I'd be absolutely livid if everything had been confirmed on the phone, and I'd booked a flight to fly in for the show, and then arrived to deal with what you faced. Hopefully you will be able to see PJ again some day, but it sounds like it certainly won't be anytime soon.

    I'm with you. Sorry Riccardo. People are shit.
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  • reflectedfromafar
    reflectedfromafar Posts: 235
    Finally, you can’t finish a discussion simply saying “this conversation is over.” Never! Believe me, if we weren’t in such a situation and my target was not attending a show for which I’d flied overnight, maybe the conversation would have been finished but Karen surely would have left with the mark of my hand on her cheek, since I don’t admit even from my parents to shut my mouth this way.

    again, the only people who know how this exchange went down are the two people involved. But what I read above is not a rational reaction to what was described - seriously, you would have hit this woman in the face for something she said ? :?
    There's a lot to be said for nowhere...
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    I think you should have brought the X-ray of the broken leg...
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • Cosmic Slop
    Cosmic Slop Posts: 107
    Welcome to how the "rules" work in North America Riccardo. It's all black and white with no room to maneuver in between. Common sense rarely applies. I assume T0C applies them this way to avoid hassle, but clearly that doesn't work either, they have to understand that shit happens sometimes, but I understand that it's hard to weed out the real situations from the fakers. I'm sorry things didn't work out exactly as planned, but glad you got to see the show.
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