***Official Please Play The South Petition***

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  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    Flagg wrote:
    I think so. I am really disappointed right now and I fucking hate the fact that they are using money and ticket sales as an excuse to not tour the south when most other bands would suck it up and play either less cities in the south or just smaller venues. I also hate being called a 'detour'. A 'detour'? WTF do you call Australia? And aren't tickets sales lackluster there as well? Not all of the northern US shows sold out either.

    Maybe they need to come to the realization that at this point in their careers they are not as poplular as they once were and need to select venues accordingly. You know, whenever The Black Crowes or the Foos or (insert band name here) run through town, they play the Nokia theater or some similar mid-sized theater. Has that thought never crossed PJ's minds? How can other bands afford to do this and PJ can't?

    They could have released all the tour dates at the beginning so at least more southern fans could take the opportunity to travel as I did. That was a bullshit move on their part to release the tour dates in pieces like that and then hope we wouln't notice or care.

    Whatever. I am through bumping this thread. I'm a little mad right now. I love Pearl Jam and they are and always will be my favorite band but this one hurts.

    "I'm through with screaming." - Faithful


    well, i understand how you feel, but maybe we shouldnt give up faith quite yet.... at the end of this month though, feel free to have a fit lol and ill probably have one with you too! this place is equally great as much as it stinks, things can change in an instant , for better or worse...
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    whys that? *gets excited*
    It is not official............we have no way of determining the accuracy of any of the information presented by that poster.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    tybird wrote:
    It is not official............we have no way of determining the accuracy of any of the information presented by that poster.



    yeah, sadly i kinda believe him though, but your totally right...

    nothing is ever set in stone until we get the the official word...



    maybe, the lack of an announcement (although ten c isnt really big on doing that, but i think they would in this case.. since its something we've grown pretty dependant on) is a good thing, and there is something in the works...
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    yeah, sadly i kinda believe him though, but your totally right...

    nothing is ever set in stone until we get the the official word...



    maybe, the lack of an announcement (although ten c isnt really big on doing that, but i think they would in this case.. since its something we've grown pretty dependant on) is a good thing, and there is something in the works...
    I'm taking a wait and see attitude in regards to this matter. If it turns out the worse for us, yes, there will be a little anger. If it all boils down to perceived ticket sales, then this band will lose some of my respect. If it all boils down to politics, then I will also lose some respect for this band. Be as of now, I'm still faithful.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • SPALMA
    SPALMA Posts: 2,279
    tybird wrote:
    I'm taking a wait and see attitude in regards to this matter. If it turns out the worse for us, yes, there will be a little anger. If it all boils down to perceived ticket sales, then this band will lose some of my respect. If it all boils down to politics, then I will also lose some respect for this band. Be as of now, I'm still faithful.


    I don't think we will ever know for sure - no communication - just "perceptions" from rumors. Pretty shoddy.

    However,w ere they to tour down here and EV or any other bandmember stood on stage and told us why - then I would believe them.

    Last time they were in West Palm (2003) EV said, and I paraphrase as I must check the boot for exact words, "I think this is the best crowd of the whole tour"...

    So... I am confused.
    "I don't want to hear any splatty tongues!"
    J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher

    I raise my Freak Flag High!!
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    I wonder if they are basing their touring strategy on what has happened to the Dixie Chicks on their latest tour...........lackluster ticket sales, no radio support etc. in strong conservative markets.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • MakingWaves
    MakingWaves Posts: 1,294
    Flagg wrote:
    I think so. I am really disappointed right now and I fucking hate the fact that they are using money and ticket sales as an excuse to not tour the south when most other bands would suck it up and play either less cities in the south or just smaller venues. I also hate being called a 'detour'. A 'detour'? WTF do you call Australia? And aren't tickets sales lackluster there as well? Not all of the northern US shows sold out either.

    Maybe they need to come to the realization that at this point in their careers they are not as poplular as they once were and need to select venues accordingly. You know, whenever The Black Crowes or the Foos or (insert band name here) run through town, they play the Nokia theater or some similar mid-sized theater. Has that thought never crossed PJ's minds? How can other bands afford to do this and PJ can't?

    They could have released all the tour dates at the beginning so at least more southern fans could take the opportunity to travel as I did. That was a bullshit move on their part to release the tour dates in pieces like that and then hope we wouln't notice or care.

    Whatever. I am through bumping this thread. I'm a little mad right now. I love Pearl Jam and they are and always will be my favorite band but this one hurts.

    "I'm through with screaming." - Faithful

    Thank you. You put into words that because of my anger I could not convey.
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  • SPALMA
    SPALMA Posts: 2,279
    tybird wrote:
    I wonder if they are basing their touring strategy on what has happened to the Dixie Chicks on their latest tours...........lackluster ticket sales, no radio support etc. in strong conservative markets.


    Why would they compare their market with the Dixie Chick's market?

    When I saw them in Kissimme VFC show , they commented on that they were surprised that there were so many non-conservatives in Florida who came out to the concert and then gave a 3 hr kick ass concert. I took the comments as a joke, not ignorance.

    In West Palm they said that is was one of the best audiences in the whole tour. I took that as a real comment - not just pandering to the crowd.

    Perhaps I was wrong?
    In both instances, I was a bit annoyed at them being surprised at the responsive crowd - perhaps they ARE just ignorant. What do they think we are down here... not worthy of them?
    "I don't want to hear any splatty tongues!"
    J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher

    I raise my Freak Flag High!!
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    SPALMA wrote:
    Why would they compare their market with the Dixie Chick's market?

    When I saw them in Kissimme VFC show , they commented on that they were surprised that there were so many non-conservatives in Florida who came out to the concert and then gave a 3 hr kick ass concert. I took the comments as a joke, not ignorance.

    In West Palm they said that is was one of the best audiences in the whole tour. I took that as a real comment - not just pandering to the crowd.

    Perhaps I was wrong?
    In both instances, I was a bit annoyed at them being surprised at the responsive crowd - perhaps they ARE just ignorant. What do they think we are down here... not worthy of them?

    It could possibly be a knee-jerk reaction to being lumped into all the stories about Natalie Maines' comments about Bushie. Maybe they think that we all think with a single mind down here...:rolleyes:..thus the Dixie Chicks don't sell in their "home market" because they were Anti-Bush, we won't sell in that same market for the same reasons since we were clumped into together with them following Denver 2003.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • platjive
    platjive Posts: 25
    How about West Palm, Ft. Lauderdale or Miami?!?!?
    Listen to Stevie Wonder!
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    I do not like the wording of the Hawaii e-mail that I just received from the Ten Club.........."wrapping up their 2006 World Tour" is a scary phrase for our cause.

    I wonder if I can cancel that order for a $50 book? Because right now I really don't think that this band deserves anymore of my money and possibly my time.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • LBCSublime
    LBCSublime Posts: 11
    PJ just added a tour date in Hawaii. I'm so sick of getting email from 10C that say "PJ just added another date!" when it has absolutely nothing to do with the south or anywhere close to where I could afford to transport my @$$ to see them. I can't help but notice they add second dates all the time to other shows, but they can't play a few shows in the south?? They can't give us an official explanation as to why? Don't they owe us that at the very least? I've been a fan since '91 and I've bought every album *and* CD, went to every FL concert, bought shirts, posters, DVDs, hats, stickers, over 25 live CDs, etc. But I can honestly say I haven't seen another band show their fans such disrespect since Metallica turned in all their fans who downloaded their music on Napster.

    I really think we're spinning our wheels here with this "Play the South Petition". At first I hoped it might get their attention, but as time goes on and we don't hear any official explanation as to why they skipped half the Freaking COUNTRY and thus, HALF THE FREAKING FANS... well, I'm a little pissed off and I've about lost all hope. I still dig the band but my respect for them has deteriorated. No one can tell me that they aren't aware that they skipped the south. It's very easy to give us an explanation. They just choose not to.

    Sorry to be a buzz kill. I just had to get that out.

    At least I was able to see Alice in Chains last week! They played the south and the Hard Rock Orlando was SOLD OUT! It was an unbelievable show! 10 out of 10!
  • frank_black
    frank_black Posts: 156
    LBCSublime wrote:
    No one can tell me that they aren't aware that they skipped the south. It's very easy to give us an explanation. They just choose not to.

    dude...they mentioned several times that ticket sales suck down there...Stone and Mike both said that the south doesn't sell very well

    don't be pissed at me...i'm just saying that they have talked about it...
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    lets let this petition die...........

    we are bastard children in the south :p
  • platjive
    platjive Posts: 25
    frank_black wrote:
    dude...they mentioned several times that ticket sales suck down there...Stone and Mike both said that the south doesn't sell very well

    don't be pissed at me...i'm just saying that they have talked about it...


    They sell out in South FL every time (In West Palm they had to do 2 nights 2 out of the last 3 times they played there)! And if they played at either of the newer arenas (Ft. Lauderdale or Miami) you can bet those would sell out too!
    Listen to Stevie Wonder!
  • SPALMA
    SPALMA Posts: 2,279
    tybird wrote:
    I do not like the wording of the Hawaii e-mail that I just received from the Ten Club.........."wrapping up their 2006 World Tour" is a scary phrase for our cause.

    I wonder if I can cancel that order for a $50 book? Because right now I really don't think that this band deserves anymore of my money and possibly my time.

    Dude, you are the most optimistic one of the bunch. Yeah, I thought about cancelling my order too.

    But the wording was:
    "Pearl Jam has announced an additional show for their 2006 tour. December 2 at the Blaisdell Center in Hawaii will be the spot for the last PJ gig of the year. Ten Club tickets available as well as a travel package!"

    It is not quite the same. "last PJ gig of the year". Does not cancel out 2007. They never gave time parameters on the "World Tour" and band members have talked about possibly touring 2007 or going back in to the studio for a new album.
    "I don't want to hear any splatty tongues!"
    J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher

    I raise my Freak Flag High!!
  • frank_black
    frank_black Posts: 156
    platjive wrote:
    They sell out in South FL every time (In West Palm they had to do 2 nights 2 out of the last 3 times they played there)! And if they played at either of the newer arenas (Ft. Lauderdale or Miami) you can bet those would sell out too!

    i hear ya...but THEY - pearl jam - don't see a Southern tour as a good idea...i have all of the 2000 Southern boots...they rock :)
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    ENDING WORLD TOUR OF "2006"


    we already know that the south probably wouldnt get shows until early 2007, so why the bummed? Nothing has changed, we are exactly in the same spot as we have been, mike comments and all. Now, with that said.... lets just give ten c and pearl jam a chance, if we hear nothing by the end of october then we can assume that we are out of the game (thats only assuming that they would play early 2007 in the south, there is always a chance that they will do something a lil later....) Im telling you, keep sending your letters, keep signing your petitions... and by golly, plant your trees, since thats a win win situation.


    i know how everyone feels, i feel the same.... its important... so i dedicate this to you my southern bitches :D





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  • LBCSublime
    LBCSublime Posts: 11
    Hmmm..I don't buy it. The south doesn't sell well? Wtf? Even IF the south doesn't sell well (not FL - always packed), wouldn't they sell enough tickets to make SOME money? Ok..here's an idea....PLAY A SMALLER VENUE! Or play 1 concert in each state in the south! You can't tell me they wouldn't sell out!

    Whatever...it's like they are flipping all of us the proverbial finger. I'm just burned out with all this "keep the faith" crap! BOOOOOOO!!!
  • presenttents
    presenttents Posts: 172
    I can't believe this thread is still kickin' !!

    much love to pearl jam and all the fans down south...we'll get our chance yet.
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