A PLEA TO 10c: tell us about all the touring regions at once

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  • Bravejamriot
    Bravejamriot Posts: 217
    I agree, and would love for them to give an idea. However, if they did perhaps say something like... "here are the west coast dates, but we are working on European dates later, hopefully, London, Paris, etc." And then it didn't work out... people would be here calling for heads to roll and crying that they would have gone to West Coast shows if they hadn't been told there would be a show in Europe.

    That said, Fuck the complainers. Please give as much info as possible on tour dates, even if unconfirmed and in the works.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,227
    I would be nice to hear it from the 10c instead of some other unrelated media source

    but nothing will happen- at least until the 2 festival dates sell out
  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    Bravejamriot wrote:
    I agree, and would love for them to give an idea. However, if they did perhaps say something like... "here are the west coast dates, but we are working on European dates later, hopefully, London, Paris, etc." And then it didn't work out... people would be here calling for heads to roll and crying that they would have gone to West Coast shows if they hadn't been told there would be a show in Europe.

    That said, Fuck the complainers. Please give as much info as possible on tour dates, even if unconfirmed and in the works.
    they can qualify it if there's a chance it won't happen (then you decide if you take the risk)...but since the dates are most likely only a couple of months apart at most, I'd think they'd be sure if they're going or not (if not of all the exact places) by the time they announce the US.

    that said, if the couple of places that are rumoured in Europe at the moment are true (Berlin and Northern Italy), since they're outdoors, they'd have to be BEFORE the US (so basically August) or it'd be very risky weather-wise (ACL is October and even in Italy, let alone Germany, weather normally turns to shit then).
    other possibility is in the middle: north west US dates around Outlands time late august, then off to Europe September and SW US from ACL on...

    Whatever the point stays valid, we need at least indication (if need be qualified with likelihood) of what they're planning for the year (might even push that to early next year if South America/Oz is involved)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    good luck
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Hi,

    It is all about trying to sale more tickets...That's why they do it?...You don't think they know where they are going to tour at?...Just like the self titled pearl jam U.S tour...Announcing a few shows at time...Gee I bet they didn't know within another few weeks that they would be playing somewhere else?...Must have just been a last second booking?...Right :lol:
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Hi,

    I agree with this though..But, I am doubting it will happen...

    Jeremy
  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    KingJeremy wrote:
    Hi,

    It is all about trying to sale more tickets...That's why they do it?...You don't think they know where they are going to tour at?...Just like the self titled pearl jam U.S tour...Announcing a few shows at time...Gee I bet they didn't know within another few weeks that they would be playing somewhere else?...Must have just been a last second booking?...Right :lol:
    thing is it doesn't necessarily sells them more tickets.. if you blow too much money on travelling far, you'll attend less shows than if you had aimed for the closer ones.
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Pegasus wrote:
    KingJeremy wrote:
    Hi,

    It is all about trying to sale more tickets...That's why they do it?...You don't think they know where they are going to tour at?...Just like the self titled pearl jam U.S tour...Announcing a few shows at time...Gee I bet they didn't know within another few weeks that they would be playing somewhere else?...Must have just been a last second booking?...Right :lol:
    thing is it doesn't necessarily sells them more tickets.. if you blow too much money on travelling far, you'll attend less shows than if you had aimed for the closer ones.

    Hi,

    But, the ten club knows we have dedicated fans that want to see pearl jam as soon they can..Plus, a lot of fans save money up when they know some sort of tour may be happening..

    Jeremy
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Hi,

    The whole point is...Announce the whole tour at once...If possible?...At least like the country they will be touring...So, fans can travel to shows that are closer to them...Not travel a long way to get to a show..But, couple weeks later they announce a show near you...

    Jeremy
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Pegasus wrote:
    thing is it doesn't necessarily sells them more tickets.. if you blow too much money on traveling far, you'll attend less shows than if you had aimed for the closer ones.

    You might get folks to buy more tickets the first time you do it, but you run the risk of running them off if you continue to do it.

    For example: Do you want to sell me one car for a quick buck or do you want to see me several cars over the course of my lifetime? It's all about the relationship between the buyer and the seller.

    If the relationship isn't nurtured, that dedicated buyer may choose another seller.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Pegasus wrote:
    thing is it doesn't necessarily sells them more tickets.. if you blow too much money on traveling far, you'll attend less shows than if you had aimed for the closer ones.

    You might get folks to buy more tickets the first time you do it, but you run the risk of running them off if you continue to do it.

    For example: Do you want to sell me one car for a quick buck or do you want to see me several cars over the course of my lifetime? It's all about the relationship between the buyer and the seller.

    If the relationship isn't nurtured, that dedicated buyer may choose another seller.

    PBM

    Hi Pissbottleman,

    What would consider this relationship status now?.....

    Jeremy
  • choop
    choop Posts: 1,060
    radiohead did their announcement last year listing the cities and countries with no dates about a week or two before the first round of tickets went on sale. i think u2 even listed all their stops without dates at first too. i'd love to see something like that done.
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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    KingJeremy wrote:
    What would you consider this relationship status now?.....

    I don't want to speak on behalf of anyone other than myself, but I'm not traveling to multiple shows or waiting in anticipation of an announcement.

    I disagreed with the '06 announcement and that soured me.

    If they come close to me, I'll try for tickets to one show. If I get them, great. If not, life goes on.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • Given to...
    Given to... Wyoming Posts: 5,007
    ...just makes sense doesnt it?

    I understand how big the logistical nightmare must be to line up the right venues in a straight line...

    I can imagine how many people have to have their ducks in a row...

    I understand trying to complete a tour before other stated timelines...

    We have lives too, and yeah, Pearl Jam happens to figure into it, maybe more than it should. Please, understand that we too have logistics to plan, to get our ducks in a row, and we also have future timelines.

    I think PBM nailed it on the head too. Maybe we need to go car shopping once a year and buy the latest cheap ass ride that will get us by for a few months... NICKLEBACK anyone?

    That, or get ahold of Dave Mathews Bands' tour manager. He seems to have his plans made often and early.
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  • redeye
    redeye Posts: 620
    yea come on 10c, when and where?????!!!!!!!!!!
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Hi,

    Well lets hope for the best..I guess..

    Jeremy
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Given to... wrote:
    ...just makes sense doesnt it?

    I understand how big the logistical nightmare must be to line up the right venues in a straight line...

    I can imagine how many people have to have their ducks in a row...

    I understand trying to complete a tour before other stated timelines...

    We have lives too, and yeah, Pearl Jam happens to figure into it, maybe more than it should. Please, understand that we too have logistics to plan, to get our ducks in a row, and we also have future timelines.

    I think PBM nailed it on the head too. Maybe we need to go car shopping once a year and buy the latest cheap ass ride that will get us by for a few months... NICKLEBACK anyone?

    That, or get ahold of Dave Mathews Bands' tour manager. He seems to have his plans made often and early.


    sensible it IS!
    :mrgreen:


    would be AWESOME if they went back to this very logical system, announce the FULL TOUR ALL AT ONCE. or at the very least, one entire leg with information IF there will be additional legs, and what areas these legs will cover. VERY helpful! i believe? my first tour in 2003 this occurred. quite honestly, i've never really followed any band as closely as pearl jam, and certainly with the internet we can follow even MORE closely than ever before....but i don't recall any band giving out tour info piecemeal as pj does. just sayin'......;)
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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Announce one leg...drum up excitement, increase demand (because who knows if the band will be any closer than 6 hours away) and watch sales go up.

    Then, announce another leg.

    A great marketing plan.

    Pure speculation on my part, but one with a fair amount of weight behind it.

    Can't fault the business because they're trying to turn a profit.

    I simply disagree from a consumer's point-of-view and now choose to spend my money differently.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • Niko80
    Niko80 Posts: 1,613
    choop wrote:
    radiohead did their announcement last year listing the cities and countries with no dates about a week or two before the first round of tickets went on sale. i think u2 even listed all their stops without dates at first too. i'd love to see something like that done.

    This would be great, but they dont even have to go this far you know. They can simply say: ' hey, here are some dates in America in August. We are working on heading over to europe soon as well. Stay tuned'.

    You know, simply share the plans.
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  • finnannie
    finnannie Posts: 1,186
    edited April 2009
    Yeah.. It would be great to know some facts about the coming tour! ;)

    I hope there will be lots of dates in EUROPE!

    :D
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