A PLEA TO 10c: tell us about all the touring regions at once

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  • jwhite173jwhite173 Posts: 61
    bump, bump!

    Let's keep this going until the "tweet" finally gets here!
  • Rossum20Rossum20 Posts: 910
    Yes please, please!

    The info can be very general...

    For example:

    The US: the Fall 09'

    South America: Winter 09'/'10

    Europe: Winter/Spring 10'


    Such a basic amount of info but I hope 10c realizes how incredibly helpful this info can be!!
  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    You're not paying attention....
    We want all the states/cities listed at one time so we're not flying all over the country when they might be playing in our backyard..... :roll:
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  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    SOLAT319 wrote:

    If the relationship isn't nurtured, that dedicated buyer may choose another seller.

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    thing is, that other seller doesn't rock as hard as Pearl Jam :D

    I found one. ;)

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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    weenie wrote:
    You're not paying attention....
    We want all the states/cities listed at one time so we're not flying all over the country when they might be playing in our backyard..... :roll:


    Yeah, you know, kind of like they used to do in 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005 and every other tour up to 2006.

    And kind of like EVERY OTHER MAJOR TOURING BAND does.
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    BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
    MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
    PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
    CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
    HTFD-6/27/08
    ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
    KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
    Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
    PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
    OKC-11/16/13
    SEA-12/6/13
    TUL-10/8/14
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Flagg wrote:
    weenie wrote:
    You're not paying attention....
    We want all the states/cities listed at one time so we're not flying all over the country when they might be playing in our backyard..... :roll:


    Yeah, you know, kind of like they used to do in 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005 and every other tour up to 2006.

    And kind of like EVERY OTHER MAJOR TOURING BAND does.

    wait.. you mean other bands don't do this "tweet tweet" stuff???? ;)
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  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    Nope, their "little birdies" are Magpies..... ;)
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    I agree.

    If they could go so far as to tell us which US states are being played, like all at one time, that would be helpful. I'm not going to buy tickets to a Cali show if they're playing in Colorado or Arizona. Or...gasp....New Mexico. (ha ha, good one)

    So if they do announce they are working on confirming dates in Europe/various US States, what happens if, for example, they are planning dates in New York and the UK. New Yorkers are cool - they will have a date. UK people are cool too - they will have a date, so no plans to travel made. BUT as these dates would only have been 'planned', things can still fall through. Say UK falls through once dates are confirmed (usually tix go on sale quite quickly after that).... can you imagine the mayhem on this board? There would be no end to complaints....
  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    chromiam wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    weenie wrote:
    You're not paying attention....
    We want all the states/cities listed at one time so we're not flying all over the country when they might be playing in our backyard..... :roll:


    Yeah, you know, kind of like they used to do in 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005 and every other tour up to 2006.

    And kind of like EVERY OTHER MAJOR TOURING BAND does.

    wait.. you mean other bands don't do this "tweet tweet" stuff???? ;)

    Ha! No, they aren't that lame.

    Actualy I don't have a problem with the "tweet" thing. I just don't like "Tweet - Here are the tour dates!!" and then 2 months later "Tweet - Here is the next leg!" with no mention of whether or not there will be any more tweets.

    Tweet and then release all of them at once. If there are 75 shows, just put them all out there. Its not that hard and they used to do for every tour.
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    MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
    PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
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    HTFD-6/27/08
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  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    I'm not "in the business"... but I would think that the chances of a show falling through are fairly low-especially if they're playing large venues or venues they've played before. Venues are basically owned/managed by the same groups of folks like everything else in the US.

    I'd be willing to take the risk of a show falling through in order to have all the information on all the cities in the US at one time. I would think that Euros, S Americans, Australians etc would feel the same about their own geographical areas. And most folks will want to go to at least 2 or 3 shows in their geographical regions. If one falls through, at least there are 1 or 2 sure things.

    Just my own feelings about what you've said. I know there are lots of differing opinions on this board. :D
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  • finnanniefinnannie Posts: 1,186
    Tell us PEARL JAM! :) We need to know!
    We won't give up!!! :lol:

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  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Flagg wrote:
    chromiam wrote:
    Tweet and then release all of them at once. If there are 75 shows, just put them all out there. Its not that hard and they used to do for every tour.

    They wised up and figured out how to effectively sell more tickets to their rabid fan base.

    They were King County "business of the month" in March '06. ;)

    PBM
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  • High Fidelity 2000High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    Flagg wrote:
    weenie wrote:
    You're not paying attention....
    We want all the states/cities listed at one time so we're not flying all over the country when they might be playing in our backyard..... :roll:


    Yeah, you know, kind of like they used to do in 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005 and every other tour up to 2006.

    And kind of like EVERY OTHER MAJOR TOURING BAND does.

    That's true! Some of the dates were like 6 months ahead of time, but they all came out at once. '98 & 2000 & 2003 were planned out way ahead....and then they told us and you planned what to do.

    It's like I don't want to buy tickets for ACL or Outside Lands and cram into a park with 80,000 people and drive for many, many extra hours to get there if I can see them in a closer city for less money, less people, and ten club seats in the first 10 or 15 rows....instead of the back of a park watching a big screen. That's just me.
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    Well, ACl is announced Tuesday. I fugure we will find out tour dates maybe 2 or 3 weeks after that. I am curious if they have a deal with these festivals not to announce dates for a few weeks until after the lineups are announced and if they can only play cities with in certain limits of them, sort of like Bonnaroo.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Rossum20 wrote:
    Yes please, please!

    The info can be very general...

    For example:

    The US: the Fall 09'

    South America: Winter 09'/'10

    Europe: Winter/Spring 10'


    Such a basic amount of info but I hope 10c realizes how incredibly helpful this info can be!!

    Flagg wrote:
    weenie wrote:
    You're not paying attention....
    We want all the states/cities listed at one time so we're not flying all over the country when they might be playing in our backyard..... :roll:


    Yeah, you know, kind of like they used to do in 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005 and every other tour up to 2006.

    And kind of like EVERY OTHER MAJOR TOURING BAND does.



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  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    This is a real stretch, and I know I'm thinking emotionally, but I'm hoping that PJ playing ACL in very first part of October also means that they'll be playing Houston or Dallas or BOTH either end of Sept. or following ACL. That would be so AWESOME.....but I NEED TO KNOW for economic reasons!!!

    PLEASE 10C, TWEET IT ALL AT ONCE

    PBM makes an excellent point and deep down I know he's right. But, I can always hope. :|
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  • I agree to this idea. Not that I can afford or intend to really travel, but it just makes sense to announce a tour all at once... I thought this was how it was always done. Also, I hate the whole marketing to sell tickets theory, especially for a band like Pearl Jam, who will definitely sell plenty of tickets. I'm not saying that the theory is wrong, I just find it disappointing when fans/customers are treated in sneaky ways.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Europe, West Coast, South, elsewhere.... that's a good start.
  • rdalhuisenrdalhuisen Den Haag Posts: 110
    Please....

    Don't let us earopeans fly to the states for nothing!! :oops:
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  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 4,997
    Bumpers. Gotta keep this close to the tweet!
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  • FahkaFahka Posts: 3,187
    will never happen. They like the fact that people will buy tickets in a crazed haze and then buy even more tickets when the band actually plays your neck of the woods..I feel that most pearl jam fans would rather see the band three or four times than see a festival type show. An example would be... announcing a huge festival and then a month later announcing much cooler, smaller shows surrounding the festival. . Is it mean? Yes. Does it put us fans in a bad spot? yes.. but i guess if we had a little self control it wouldn't be so easy to dupe us :D
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    will never happen. They like the fact that people will buy tickets in a crazed haze and then buy even more tickets when the band actually plays your neck of the woods..I feel that most pearl jam fans would rather see the band three or four times than see a festival type show. An example would be... announcing a huge festival and then a month later announcing much cooler, smaller shows surrounding the festival. . Is it mean? Yes. Does it put us fans in a bad spot? yes.. but i guess if we had a little self control it wouldn't be so easy to dupe us :D



    well for me, if a festival is my only way of seeing pearl jam live...more than likely, i pass. my days of truly enjoying festivals are long gone, tho quite honestly, they were never really my thing. as of right now, if all pj play is SF and ACL...even if 10c announced 'that's it!' i still wouldn't be going. sure, maybe...just maybe...i'd consider it if it were closer to home, but honestly...doubtful. that said, anyone who hits up the festivals, i hope they have a BLAST!


    i DO truly wish and hope that 10c will return to announcing a FULL TOUR so we ALL can make informed decisions. hell, i traveled to europe to see pj in 2006, AFTER seeing them 3x i think right here at home! so for me it's not just about going and hitting *any* shows to catch pj, it's just a good excuse to help me plan a good itinterary ;)....and sure, it's great fun to combine travel and pj! however, that isn't always possible...so you bet....it just would be NICE to know, one way or another........
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  • will never happen. They like the fact that people will buy tickets in a crazed haze and then buy even more tickets when the band actually plays your neck of the woods..I feel that most pearl jam fans would rather see the band three or four times than see a festival type show. An example would be... announcing a huge festival and then a month later announcing much cooler, smaller shows surrounding the festival. . Is it mean? Yes. Does it put us fans in a bad spot? yes.. but i guess if we had a little self control it wouldn't be so easy to dupe us :D



    well for me, if a festival is my only way of seeing pearl jam live...more than likely, i pass. my days of truly enjoying festivals are long gone, tho quite honestly, they were never really my thing. as of right now, if all pj play is SF and ACL...even if 10c announced 'that's it!' i still wouldn't be going. sure, maybe...just maybe...i'd consider it if it were closer to home, but honestly...doubtful. that said, anyone who hits up the festivals, i hope they have a BLAST!


    i DO truly wish and hope that 10c will return to announcing a FULL TOUR so we ALL can make informed decisions. hell, i traveled to europe to see pj in 2006, AFTER seeing them 3x i think right here at home! so for me it's not just about going and hitting *any* shows to catch pj, it's just a good excuse to help me plan a good itinterary ;)....and sure, it's great fun to combine travel and pj! however, that isn't always possible...so you bet....it just would be NICE to know, one way or another........

    Ahhh Italia :D I had to laugh in Jeff's interview when he said he hoped it didn't rain the next time they played Verona... and I think it added to the show even if I was still drying my shoes out in Milano :o:D I agree though a full tour announcement at once would be great but not the end of my world.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    will never happen. They like the fact that people will buy tickets in a crazed haze and then buy even more tickets when the band actually plays your neck of the woods..I feel that most pearl jam fans would rather see the band three or four times than see a festival type show. An example would be... announcing a huge festival and then a month later announcing much cooler, smaller shows surrounding the festival. . Is it mean? Yes. Does it put us fans in a bad spot? yes.. but i guess if we had a little self control it wouldn't be so easy to dupe us :D



    well for me, if a festival is my only way of seeing pearl jam live...more than likely, i pass. my days of truly enjoying festivals are long gone, tho quite honestly, they were never really my thing. as of right now, if all pj play is SF and ACL...even if 10c announced 'that's it!' i still wouldn't be going. sure, maybe...just maybe...i'd consider it if it were closer to home, but honestly...doubtful. that said, anyone who hits up the festivals, i hope they have a BLAST!


    i DO truly wish and hope that 10c will return to announcing a FULL TOUR so we ALL can make informed decisions. hell, i traveled to europe to see pj in 2006, AFTER seeing them 3x i think right here at home! so for me it's not just about going and hitting *any* shows to catch pj, it's just a good excuse to help me plan a good itinterary ;)....and sure, it's great fun to combine travel and pj! however, that isn't always possible...so you bet....it just would be NICE to know, one way or another........

    Ahhh Italia :D I had to laugh in Jeff's interview when he said he hoped it didn't rain the next time they played Verona... and I think it added to the show even if I was still drying my shoes out in Milano :o:D I agree though a full tour announcement at once would be great but not the end of my world.




    cmon now....not end your world? :shock: what kinda fan are you? :twisted: ;) :P
    seriously...i agree........but you bet, while on the subject...i'll ALWAYS weigh in with my 2 cents, which let's face it....usally turns into 25 cents :D ....that it most definitely is a GREAT IDEA to announce a FULL TOUR all at ONCE. but hey, i'm a dreamer........;)



    ahhhhhhhhhh.....verona............hell, all of italy, what a trip! what shows! what company! what food and drink! 8-)


    bellissimo!


    however, THIS year.....i am really hoping they somehow do come back to NYC vicinity (and yes i know they show us a LOT of love here).....but i too hope they hit LOTs of spots elsewhere too! i just really should be well-behaved this year, and i really want to be (or try to be)....so if they don't come my way, it may be just too tempting to resist, and that's just not good...... :mrgreen:
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    cmon now....not end your world? :shock: what kinda fan are you? :twisted: ;) :P
    seriously...i agree........but you bet, while on the subject...i'll ALWAYS weigh in with my 2 cents, which let's face it....usally turns into 25 cents :D ....that it most definitely is a GREAT IDEA to announce a FULL TOUR all at ONCE. but hey, i'm a dreamer........;)



    ahhhhhhhhhh.....verona............hell, all of italy, what a trip! what shows! what company! what food and drink! 8-)


    bellissimo!


    however, THIS year.....i am really hoping they somehow do come back to NYC vicinity (and yes i know they show us a LOT of love here).....but i too hope they hit LOTs of spots elsewhere too! i just really should be well-behaved this year, and i really want to be (or try to be)....so if they don't come my way, it may be just too tempting to resist, and that's just not good...... :mrgreen:[/quote]

    Well your 25 cents is worth almost a dollar here in Canada 8-)

    Haha I know I am some slackass fan :mrgreen:

    I should be well behaved this year as well but what fun is that? :twisted:
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Well your 25 cents is worth almost a dollar here in Canada 8-)

    Haha I know I am some slackass fan :mrgreen:

    I should be well behaved this year as well but what fun is that? :twisted:



    ha, i'd be up for some east coast canada dates then, so affordable! :lol:


    and seriously...that is NOT the kind of *encouragement* i need, at all. :evil: i am quite easily, and naturally....not very well-behaved to begin with, i have not been well-behaved at all these past few years.....and while i do prefer to dream ;)......'reality'...especially in 2009, is just far too real to ignore...so yes, i really AM trying, and wanting, to be well-behaved. that said, we'll see what announcements come down the road...and hell, i could win the lottery before then, hit some unexpected windfall...who knows? :mrgreen:


    sooooooooo looking forward to announcements!
    on that note, have a GREAt and beautiful weekend all!
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Pegasus wrote:
    If Jeff's interview on that Missoula radio is to be believed, the band will be doing some dates in Europe this year.

    Even if the exact dates/places are not set in stone, could 10c please, please, please confirm if they WILL indeed come to Europe when announcing the US dates? (assuming the US dates are first, might actually not be)... even if no exact countries are mentioned, just that there'll be some dates (if there are any planned of course).
    That way, Europeans (and East coasters possibly) will be able to make an informed decision on whether/where to travel.

    yes, I know, there'll be annoying people bugging you for exact dates/places if there's no details, but that'll be less than pissed off people because they've bought US tickets (that you won't allow to transfer) only to find out a months later they had a gig at home/nearby (not everyone reads the boards for rumours.. and anyway 2003 taught us not to rely on rumours for deciding where to go or not :cry: ).

    If nothing else, you can help the planet by avoiding people making unnecessary long haul flights :mrgreen:

    Thanks

    well, yes, ok, I'll be still doing some US dates to see my friends and celebrate my birthday, but I'm an hopeless case and not the norm
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  • Well your 25 cents is worth almost a dollar here in Canada 8-)

    Haha I know I am some slackass fan :mrgreen:

    I should be well behaved this year as well but what fun is that? :twisted:



    ha, i'd be up for some east coast canada dates then, so affordable! :lol:


    and seriously...that is NOT the kind of *encouragement* i need, at all. :evil: i am quite easily, and naturally....not very well-behaved to begin with, i have not been well-behaved at all these past few years.....and while i do prefer to dream ;)......'reality'...especially in 2009, is just far too real to ignore...so yes, i really AM trying, and wanting, to be well-behaved. that said, we'll see what announcements come down the road...and hell, i could win the lottery before then, hit some unexpected windfall...who knows? :mrgreen:


    sooooooooo looking forward to announcements!
    on that note, have a GREAt and beautiful weekend all!
    8-)

    HAHA yes but they can't play there again until I move back :lol: and that might take me a while unless I too have a windfall.

    Me? A bad influence? *adjusts halo* Ahem, never :twisted:

    Should be a great weekend so enjoy and see you around these parts on Monday ;)
  • PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    redrock wrote:
    I agree.

    If they could go so far as to tell us which US states are being played, like all at one time, that would be helpful. I'm not going to buy tickets to a Cali show if they're playing in Colorado or Arizona. Or...gasp....New Mexico. (ha ha, good one)

    So if they do announce they are working on confirming dates in Europe/various US States, what happens if, for example, they are planning dates in New York and the UK. New Yorkers are cool - they will have a date. UK people are cool too - they will have a date, so no plans to travel made. BUT as these dates would only have been 'planned', things can still fall through. Say UK falls through once dates are confirmed (usually tix go on sale quite quickly after that).... can you imagine the mayhem on this board? There would be no end to complaints....
    they can just say it's not 100%.
    and we'll know if it doesn't happen before either dates happen... it's much easier to make a last minute trip (there's ALWAYS tickets to be found), than cancelling one (on which you can't get flights and tickets refunds).

    by the look of the tweet, seems the point is moot this time and they're going to do Europe first (I don't think there should be any doubt in anybody's mind that there'll be US dates besides the 2 festivals).

    Still, when they announce Europe on Monday, they should at least confirm there'll be US dates in say the SW and West Coast, even if they're not listing them..just for the yanks peace of mind (and east coaster in particular that might be tempted to rough it up with us here if they don't have local shows.. you're welcome guys :mrgreen: ).
    simply a "West Coast and Southern US dates to be announced in a few weeks" at the end would be appreciated.
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Pegasus wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    I agree.

    If they could go so far as to tell us which US states are being played, like all at one time, that would be helpful. I'm not going to buy tickets to a Cali show if they're playing in Colorado or Arizona. Or...gasp....New Mexico. (ha ha, good one)

    So if they do announce they are working on confirming dates in Europe/various US States, what happens if, for example, they are planning dates in New York and the UK. New Yorkers are cool - they will have a date. UK people are cool too - they will have a date, so no plans to travel made. BUT as these dates would only have been 'planned', things can still fall through. Say UK falls through once dates are confirmed (usually tix go on sale quite quickly after that).... can you imagine the mayhem on this board? There would be no end to complaints....
    they can just say it's not 100%.
    and we'll know if it doesn't happen before either dates happen... it's much easier to make a last minute trip (there's ALWAYS tickets to be found), than cancelling one (on which you can't get flights and tickets refunds).

    by the look of the tweet, seems the point is moot this time and they're going to do Europe first (I don't think there should be any doubt in anybody's mind that there'll be US dates besides the 2 festivals).

    Still, when they announce Europe on Monday, they should at least confirm there'll be US dates in say the SW and West Coast, even if they're not listing them..just for the yanks peace of mind (and east coaster in particular that might be tempted to rough it up with us here if they don't have local shows.. you're welcome guys :mrgreen: ).
    simply a "West Coast and Southern US dates to be announced in a few weeks" at the end would be appreciated.


    Hi,

    It is all a marketing techinque....Not trying to be negative...My venting is over..

    Jeremy
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