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A PLEA TO 10c: tell us about all the touring regions at once

PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
edited May 2009 in The Porch
If Jeff's interview on that Missoula radio is to be believed, the band will be doing some dates in Europe this year.

Even if the exact dates/places are not set in stone, could 10c please, please, please confirm if they WILL indeed come to Europe when announcing the US dates? (assuming the US dates are first, might actually not be)... even if no exact countries are mentioned, just that there'll be some dates (if there are any planned of course).
That way, Europeans (and East coasters possibly) will be able to make an informed decision on whether/where to travel.

yes, I know, there'll be annoying people bugging you for exact dates/places if there's no details, but that'll be less than pissed off people because they've bought US tickets (that you won't allow to transfer) only to find out a months later they had a gig at home/nearby (not everyone reads the boards for rumours.. and anyway 2003 taught us not to rely on rumours for deciding where to go or not :cry: ).

If nothing else, you can help the planet by avoiding people making unnecessary long haul flights :mrgreen:

Thanks

well, yes, ok, I'll be still doing some US dates to see my friends and celebrate my birthday, but I'm an hopeless case and not the norm
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    yeaaah

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  • PJRock75PJRock75 Posts: 869
    Don't want to sound demanding, but he's got a point 10C. This would be my only complaint about being a PJ fan...everything else people bitch about I could care less about.
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    This is a good idea.
  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    Wilds wrote:
    This is a good idea.

    +1
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  • BeerBaronBeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,097
    I feel for you guys. Coming across the ocean can be very costly. If you made travel plans to come over to see a hand full of shows on the west coast only to find out a month later that they are playing 15 shows in Europe, that would really suck!

    I hope we get all the shows announced at the same time this year. It will save everyone a lot of headaches.
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  • Off I Go.Off I Go. Posts: 204
    YES!!!A very good idea!!! :)
    The waiting drove me mad!!!
  • CalumCalum Posts: 635
    good idea. I wouldnt expect date or location, just would be good to annouce the entire tour at the same time. maybe if in europe.. just list the countries...
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  • 24veddie24veddie Posts: 267
    A fantastic idea!
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I was just thinking of this the other day. yes please just list states or provences in advance. we know you will sell more tickets if you play the game of pretending there are fewer dates and then add dates later in big cities but please do the decent thing and be up front in advance... you used to do it years ago. ...just give us the truth.
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  • HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    Absolutely; this could save people lots of money and headaches
    We don't need specifics just which regions will and will not be hit
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  • PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    and the money we save on travel we can then use for the next boxset ;)
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    I see the overseas frustration, I think it is a pretty good bet they are heading there based on the interviews. I think they will announce all of it in the middle of May. ACL is announced on Tuesday, and like Bonnaroo last year, I think all the dates for 2009 will be announced 2/3 weeks after that.
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  • einatshauleinatshaul Posts: 2,219
    Pleeeeeeaaaaaing

    Along... :lol:

    I completely agree :D For a change
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  • einatshauleinatshaul Posts: 2,219
    PJRock75 wrote:
    Don't want to sound demanding, but he's got a point 10C. This would be my only complaint about being a PJ fan...everything else people bitch about I could care less about.
    It's a she :D
    And yes, very good point, you don't want all of us there every tour taking your 10 seats away-anyway, right?
    Kidding aside, this would be a great improvement instead of all the guessing games.. Just give us some truth, indeed.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    hahahahahaha you're asking 10C to do this??? hahahaha you should ask Rolling Stone or Billboard because that's where you're going to get info on a Pearl Jam tour first, as usual.
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  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    This suggestion does not fall into the LLC's business model.

    Sorry.

    :lol:

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  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,610
    I will sign this. Shouldn't be too hard to let fans know about the plans. Especially considering how helpful such information would be to all of us.
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  • zootownzootown Posts: 666
    This might be a good idea, but it is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! I feel for folks trying to figure out their travel plans, but this is unrealistic. And sorry, but I gotta say, I miss the days when as a fan, all you did was wait until your favorite band came close to you, then you would get excited, buy your ticket and see your ONE show. The new trend of fans following a band for several shows or a whole tour, or travelling across the globe to see a band seems a bit over the top for me....the Dead fans did this too, and I didn't get it then either!
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    zootown wrote:
    This might be a good idea, but it is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! I feel for folks trying to figure out their travel plans, but this is unrealistic. And sorry, but I gotta say, I miss the days when as a fan, all you did was wait until your favorite band came close to you, then you would get excited, buy your ticket and see your ONE show. The new trend of fans following a band for several shows or a whole tour, or travelling across the globe to see a band seems a bit over the top for me....the Dead fans did this too, and I didn't get it then either!
    im with ya... maybe just cause im young and poor... dont think we would hear 90% of the complaining we get around here if people still had the mentality of early PJ fans... were all spoiled (myself included)
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  • McJuicyMcJuicy Posts: 752
    it's an excellent point, in fact, so excellent that it's been made before, by myself included - the fact is that 10c only gets a limited amount of seats no matter which venue is being played and the extreme example is this...

    last year i traveled 2500 miles from buffalo to los angeles for the 2 vedder shows at the wiltern - there was an uproar of bitching about how no one got 10c tickets, especially by those that reside within 100 or so miles of the venue itself - meanwhile, 3 months down the line, vedder announces 2 shows at massey hall, which is within 100 miles of my house - had i been aware of that fact at an earlier date, there is no way i would have considered traveling such great distance when i could see the same act so close to home - now whether or not i travel is my decision and should have no impact on the 10c announcements, but the fact remains that I TOOK SOMEONE ELSE'S 10C TICKETS to those los angeles shows because of the lack of information about the 2nd, and now 3rd, leg - had the information been disseminated at one focal point, it ultimately means MORE TICKETS FOR MORE FANS, or more fans are getting the tickets they want - and this is not just me, there were a shitload of people that traveled from the east coast to the vedder shows last year, and then 2 months later he is playing in their backyard, paradoxical nonsense! (hehe)

    it's also important to consider why 10c/pearl jam do this, as there could be a reason behind all of the chaos, and my story validates that point - like the hype of each leg is greater than the whole (the whole is less than the sum of its parts type deal) and they get us on each tour - i'm not saying it's illegal or unethical, and i understand that there may be legitimate reasons for this method, but it would just clear up so much confusion for us, the fans! for instance, i would rather travel to europe to see pearl jam play this year than travel to the west coast, but we all know that west coast dates are going to be announced before any, if any, european dates are announced - that said, how am i gonna pass up the opportunity to get 10c tickets to west coast when europe hasn't been announced, that's one risk i'm just not willing to take :-)

    i'm gonna stop this rant before i start to make sense, enjoy
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  • BravejamriotBravejamriot Posts: 217
    I agree, and would love for them to give an idea. However, if they did perhaps say something like... "here are the west coast dates, but we are working on European dates later, hopefully, London, Paris, etc." And then it didn't work out... people would be here calling for heads to roll and crying that they would have gone to West Coast shows if they hadn't been told there would be a show in Europe.

    That said, Fuck the complainers. Please give as much info as possible on tour dates, even if unconfirmed and in the works.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,434
    I would be nice to hear it from the 10c instead of some other unrelated media source

    but nothing will happen- at least until the 2 festival dates sell out
  • PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    Bravejamriot wrote:
    I agree, and would love for them to give an idea. However, if they did perhaps say something like... "here are the west coast dates, but we are working on European dates later, hopefully, London, Paris, etc." And then it didn't work out... people would be here calling for heads to roll and crying that they would have gone to West Coast shows if they hadn't been told there would be a show in Europe.

    That said, Fuck the complainers. Please give as much info as possible on tour dates, even if unconfirmed and in the works.
    they can qualify it if there's a chance it won't happen (then you decide if you take the risk)...but since the dates are most likely only a couple of months apart at most, I'd think they'd be sure if they're going or not (if not of all the exact places) by the time they announce the US.

    that said, if the couple of places that are rumoured in Europe at the moment are true (Berlin and Northern Italy), since they're outdoors, they'd have to be BEFORE the US (so basically August) or it'd be very risky weather-wise (ACL is October and even in Italy, let alone Germany, weather normally turns to shit then).
    other possibility is in the middle: north west US dates around Outlands time late august, then off to Europe September and SW US from ACL on...

    Whatever the point stays valid, we need at least indication (if need be qualified with likelihood) of what they're planning for the year (might even push that to early next year if South America/Oz is involved)
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    good luck
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Hi,

    It is all about trying to sale more tickets...That's why they do it?...You don't think they know where they are going to tour at?...Just like the self titled pearl jam U.S tour...Announcing a few shows at time...Gee I bet they didn't know within another few weeks that they would be playing somewhere else?...Must have just been a last second booking?...Right :lol:
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Hi,

    I agree with this though..But, I am doubting it will happen...

    Jeremy
  • PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    KingJeremy wrote:
    Hi,

    It is all about trying to sale more tickets...That's why they do it?...You don't think they know where they are going to tour at?...Just like the self titled pearl jam U.S tour...Announcing a few shows at time...Gee I bet they didn't know within another few weeks that they would be playing somewhere else?...Must have just been a last second booking?...Right :lol:
    thing is it doesn't necessarily sells them more tickets.. if you blow too much money on travelling far, you'll attend less shows than if you had aimed for the closer ones.
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Pegasus wrote:
    KingJeremy wrote:
    Hi,

    It is all about trying to sale more tickets...That's why they do it?...You don't think they know where they are going to tour at?...Just like the self titled pearl jam U.S tour...Announcing a few shows at time...Gee I bet they didn't know within another few weeks that they would be playing somewhere else?...Must have just been a last second booking?...Right :lol:
    thing is it doesn't necessarily sells them more tickets.. if you blow too much money on travelling far, you'll attend less shows than if you had aimed for the closer ones.

    Hi,

    But, the ten club knows we have dedicated fans that want to see pearl jam as soon they can..Plus, a lot of fans save money up when they know some sort of tour may be happening..

    Jeremy
  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Hi,

    The whole point is...Announce the whole tour at once...If possible?...At least like the country they will be touring...So, fans can travel to shows that are closer to them...Not travel a long way to get to a show..But, couple weeks later they announce a show near you...

    Jeremy
  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Pegasus wrote:
    thing is it doesn't necessarily sells them more tickets.. if you blow too much money on traveling far, you'll attend less shows than if you had aimed for the closer ones.

    You might get folks to buy more tickets the first time you do it, but you run the risk of running them off if you continue to do it.

    For example: Do you want to sell me one car for a quick buck or do you want to see me several cars over the course of my lifetime? It's all about the relationship between the buyer and the seller.

    If the relationship isn't nurtured, that dedicated buyer may choose another seller.

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