A PLEA TO 10c: tell us about all the touring regions at once

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  • 1awman
    1awman Posts: 41
    oh i agree....i think it's downright odd, especially for such an environmentally conscious band. 4 shows hardly seems worth the time/effort/expense of going over, especially BEFORE the album release.

    Unless of course Backspacer is being used to transport of the kit and personnel? Maybe four shows is all its flippers could manage? ;)
  • 24veddie
    24veddie Posts: 267
    it seems very strange that they would just cut out SPAIN, ITALY, FRANCE, GREECE, BELGIUM etc.......

    why fly over for a week? if they have more dates planned why are they not telling us?

    i was speaking to a few colleagues today about deciding if i should buy tickets or not, and they basically said "why would they not announce the entire tour at once?" another person said "this isin't KISS we're talking about. i thought pearl jam was a band for the fans and not for money".

    i really wish they would read this thread and listen to what we are all saying.
  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    Red Lukin wrote:
    Let's try and bump this forever...I don't think the TC/band understand how importamt this is to many of us.

    I think they know and they choose not to acknowledge it.

    Simple explanation...They know and they don't care...Simple as that...Take or leave it attitude they have towards the fan club members now...


    Jeremy
  • 24veddie
    24veddie Posts: 267
    KingJeremy wrote:
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    Red Lukin wrote:
    Let's try and bump this forever...I don't think the TC/band understand how importamt this is to many of us.

    I think they know and they choose not to acknowledge it.

    Simple explanation...They know and they don't care...Simple as that...Take or leave it attitude they have towards the fan club members now...


    Jeremy

    why do they do this?
    i think they care.
    i think they just don't realize how hard this is on the fans trying to plan trips and vacations.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    24veddie wrote:
    i thought pearl jam was a band for the fans and not for money". .

    Why this complete misconception of what a band is? PJ (or any other band/artist) do not play for us out of the goodness of their own heart (they would then be doing free concerts everytime!). PJ is their day job, they ARE in it for the money. Obviously, being a creative 'job' (like any artist), they naturally cater for their 'customers needs' (if one can call wanting to seem them live a 'need') and tastes (after all, they do need to sell their records and if they are not to our taste, we will not buy).

    Can people just not accept that they prefer waiting until things are more or less confirmed in their books? Could there not be other contractural arrangements with the promoters, etc?

    I can't make my hometown date. I could do a mad hop over to Rotterdam. I would really like to know if they are definitely doing a 'proper' tour. I need to plan just like everyone else but if your life/holidays/finances revolve around PJ dates, I just don't know what to say.....
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    decides2dream wrote:
    oh i agree....i think it's downright odd, especially for such an environmentally conscious band. 4 shows hardly seems worth the time/effort/expense of going over

    Maybe, just like some fans who plan their hols around PJ, PJ are planning their hols in Europe and they thought they might just fit in a gig or two in between sightseeing!
  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    redrock wrote:
    24veddie wrote:
    i thought pearl jam was a band for the fans and not for money". .

    Why this complete misconception of what a band is? PJ (or any other band/artist) do not play for us out of the goodness of their own heart (they would then be doing free concerts everytime!). PJ is their day job, they ARE in it for the money. Obviously, being a creative 'job' (like any artist), they naturally cater for their 'customers needs' (if one can call wanting to seem them live a 'need') and tastes (after all, they do need to sell their records and if they are not to our taste, we will not buy).

    Can people just not accept that they prefer waiting until things are more or less confirmed in their books? Could there not be other contractural arrangements with the promoters, etc?

    I can't make my hometown date. I could do a mad hop over to Rotterdam. I would really like to know if they are definitely doing a 'proper' tour. I need to plan just like everyone else but if your life/holidays/finances revolve around PJ dates, I just don't know what to say.....



    Read the thread: They've announced full legs in the past - why not now? And as for our lives revolving around PJ dates, it's not like they tour every year, or even every other year. People who live in Texas tell me that this band hasn't played here in 6 years. And while they ARE playing ACL this year, not everyone wants to pay $100 to go stand in the sun for 8 or so hours and then get to see them play while standing in a crowd of 20,000 people. :roll:
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  • 24veddie
    24veddie Posts: 267
    Read the thread: They've announced full legs in the past - why not now? And as for our lives revolving around PJ dates, it's not like they tour every year, or even every other year. People who live in Texas tell me that this band hasn't played here in 6 years. And while they ARE playing ACL this year, not everyone wants to pay $100 to go stand in the sun for 8 or so hours and then get to see them play while standing in a crowd of 20,000 people. :roll:[/quote]


    only if i had no other option would i see them in a festival now. 33 times live and only 1 festival.

    living in europe it seems like that's the case now though. 4 shows???

    imagine it was vice versa?

    i don't want to whine and moan. it just seems very strange to say the least. i'm sure many of the other european fans feel the same way.
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    i anxiously await ALL the other touring news to come after the euroshow sales are done......hopefully within the next 2 weeks! be GREAt to know the gameplan for the rest of the year!



    8-)


    redrock wrote:
    decides2dream wrote:
    oh i agree....i think it's downright odd, especially for such an environmentally conscious band. 4 shows hardly seems worth the time/effort/expense of going over

    Maybe, just like some fans who plan their hols around PJ, PJ are planning their hols in Europe and they thought they might just fit in a gig or two in between sightseeing!




    oh i agree, probably gonna have some fun with their families over there...but it still seems like a lot of *work* and expense, for 4 shows is all......just thinking, if they're over there, they might as well have planned MORE, that's all!
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  • ilockyer
    ilockyer Posts: 2,272
    It's better when the whole tour is released at once, Springsteen drip-fed his last 2-3 tours rather than announce them properly, caused no end of problems.

    If there is to be more European shows then an announcement of the new album and dates once these 4 are sold out would take advantage of the perceived greater demand.
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  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    Yes, it IS a totally different feel in a festival environment I'm sure. I feel like the "brotherhood" thing that fans have going on between themselves and the band would be totally lost. I also think that in 2010 Europe, and other regions like S. America and Australia will get some shows along with probably lots of cities in the US. Somebody on this thread mentioned this earlier and I tend to agree with him/her.
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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    24veddie wrote:
    Read the thread: They've announced full legs in the past - why not now? And as for our lives revolving around PJ dates, it's not like they tour every year, or even every other year. People who live in Texas tell me that this band hasn't played here in 6 years. And while they ARE playing ACL this year, not everyone wants to pay $100 to go stand in the sun for 8 or so hours and then get to see them play while standing in a crowd of 20,000 people. :roll:

    .[/quote]

    I think ACL is more like 60,000 or 80,000, no? That's me. I live somewhat close to Austin Texas, not super close but not as far as the last couple of tours have hit, and I just don't think it'd be worth all the money to watch them on a big screen in a park with tens of thousands of people... no thanks. I want my $75 ten club ticket in the first 10 rows, please. We need a tour of just some regular shows, enough with the festivals already. :)
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  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    High Fidelity 2000 wrote:
    24veddie wrote:
    Read the thread: They've announced full legs in the past - why not now? And as for our lives revolving around PJ dates, it's not like they tour every year, or even every other year. People who live in Texas tell me that this band hasn't played here in 6 years. And while they ARE playing ACL this year, not everyone wants to pay $100 to go stand in the sun for 8 or so hours and then get to see them play while standing in a crowd of 20,000 people. :roll:

    .

    I think ACL is more like 60,000 or 80,000, no? That's me. I live somewhat close to Austin Texas, not super close but not as far as the last couple of tours have hit, and I just don't think it'd be worth all the money to watch them on a big screen in a park with tens of thousands of people... no thanks. I want my $75 ten club ticket in the first 10 rows, please. We need a tour of just some regular shows, enough with the festivals already. :)
    I was going to pass on ACL (but do a couple of weeks of shows before)... bu just heard my second favorite band (State Radio) is playing it too, so I have no choice now :mrgreen:
  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    WTF?
    when I created this thread I wasn't even thinking that they might be announcing things THAT fragmented! :?

    this is ridiculous! :|
  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    Pegasus wrote:
    WTF?
    when I created this thread I wasn't even thinking that they might be announcing things THAT fragmented! :?

    this is ridiculous! :|

    wait till the announcement tomorrow

    i think there will be more than Chi town and T. Dot
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  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    I'd love full tour announcements again! :)
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  • LukinTimer
    LukinTimer Posts: 538
    I would LOVE a full tour announcement tomorrow, but I don't think it's going to happen. I think a lot of the "fragmentation" is a venue issue, but who knows.

    But I second Pegasus' original plea to announce as much info as possible at one time so people can plan. I am on the west coast, so I am just sitting here waiting, hoping that all the rumors of a west coast swing are true. I mean it looks good, but if something happens, and they don't hit the left coast, I'm going to be left scrambling.

    So, here's to more dates... more information...oh,and the Gorge please. Nothing beats it! 8-)
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  • BeerBaron
    BeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,100
    vedder_soup wrote:
    Pegasus wrote:
    WTF?
    when I created this thread I wasn't even thinking that they might be announcing things THAT fragmented! :?

    this is ridiculous! :|

    wait till the announcement tomorrow

    i think there will be more than Chi town and T. Dot
    I hope you are right ...
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,844
    please i hope they do announce evrything at once surely they must know people have to plan out everything that comes with hitting the road for a few shows :roll: ;) ...
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  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    vedder_soup wrote:
    Pegasus wrote:
    WTF?
    when I created this thread I wasn't even thinking that they might be announcing things THAT fragmented! :?

    this is ridiculous! :|

    wait till the announcement tomorrow

    i think there will be more than Chi town and T. Dot
    you really think there'll be the West Coast? 'cos I sure don't.

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