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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    This has been bothering me ever since the "Jughead" episode.

    If Widmore knows Mrs. Hawkins, why doesn't he use her help to get back to the island?

    I mean it seems relatively simple for the O6 to get back but yet Widmore has been trying for many years to get back and the best he did was send a freighter. It just seems odd that he wouldn't have gone to Mrs. Hawkins to figure out a better plan to get back with his resources.

    Exactly. Inconsistency.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    CHANGEinWAVES wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    This has been bothering me ever since the "Jughead" episode.

    If Widmore knows Mrs. Hawkins, why doesn't he use her help to get back to the island?

    I mean it seems relatively simple for the O6 to get back but yet Widmore has been trying for many years to get back and the best he did was send a freighter. It just seems odd that he wouldn't have gone to Mrs. Hawkins to figure out a better plan to get back with his resources.
    maybe there was a falling out between the 2.
    I don't recall how they know each other... but I'm sure they'll give us a reason he doesn't go to her.

    Widmore gave Desmond Mrs. Hawkins' address so they have to know each other.
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    This has been bothering me ever since the "Jughead" episode.

    If Widmore knows Mrs. Hawkins, why doesn't he use her help to get back to the island?

    I mean it seems relatively simple for the O6 to get back but yet Widmore has been trying for many years to get back and the best he did was send a freighter. It just seems odd that he wouldn't have gone to Mrs. Hawkins to figure out a better plan to get back with his resources.

    Exactly. Inconsistency.

    I would not call it inconsistency. Ben was the one who said all those things about Widmore. He always tells the truth.
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Black Diamond wrote:
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    This has been bothering me ever since the "Jughead" episode.

    If Widmore knows Mrs. Hawkins, why doesn't he use her help to get back to the island?

    I mean it seems relatively simple for the O6 to get back but yet Widmore has been trying for many years to get back and the best he did was send a freighter. It just seems odd that he wouldn't have gone to Mrs. Hawkins to figure out a better plan to get back with his resources.

    Exactly. Inconsistency.

    I would not call it inconsistency. Ben was the one who said all those things about Widmore. He always tells the truth.

    You're right. My apologies. Henry Gale is clearly a trustworthy character. Oh wait...I mean Ben.
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    AmentsChick wrote:
    You're right. My apologies. Henry Gale is clearly a trustworthy character. Oh wait...I mean Ben.

    :lol:
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Black Diamond wrote:
    AmentsChick wrote:
    You're right. My apologies. Henry Gale is clearly a trustworthy character. Oh wait...I mean Ben.

    :lol:
    IMO, that's why he had a thing for Juliette...he saw in her his own trustworthiness and honesty.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    AmentsChick wrote:
    You're right. My apologies. Henry Gale is clearly a trustworthy character. Oh wait...I mean Ben.

    :lol:
    IMO, that's why he had a thing for Juliette...he saw in her his own trustworthiness and honesty.
    Oooh! I like that!
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    AmentsChick wrote:
    http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=16196&fullsize=1
    Damn you're good!
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    whoprincess wrote:
    AmentsChick wrote:
    http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=16196&fullsize=1
    Damn you're good!

    hahahaha. I've spent WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much time the past 4 years being obsessed with this show. I'm the first to admit it.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    AmentsChick wrote:
    whoprincess wrote:
    AmentsChick wrote:
    http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=16196&fullsize=1
    Damn you're good!

    hahahaha. I've spent WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much time the past 4 years being obsessed with this show. I'm the first to admit it.
    +1. Had to recruit my boys to watch because the Mrs. refused.
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Black Diamond wrote:
    +1. Had to recruit my boys to watch because the Mrs. refused.

    LOL! That was hilariousness
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    AmentsChick wrote:
    spat wrote:
    the biggest thing that annoyed me about last nights episode was why didn't jack ask ben what happened to him?! i mean he shows up on the plane all jacked up and in a sling, but jack just sat there like everything was normal! wouldn't that be the first thing out of anyone elses mouths?

    Well...uh...it's Ben...Jack's probably just so used to seeing people being pissed at him.
    This made me laugh!

    But I wondered about that too. And if it was Sayid that got medieval on Ben's ass, wouldn't Ben be dead?
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    pjsteelerfan wrote:

    I posted a little earlier on this, I don't think Ben had to be on the plane, unless he was taking the place of someone. I think he is trying to get back on the Island, but he does not need to be. I think only the Oceanic 6 had to be on the plane.
    Plus we don't know if Benry made it to the island. Thus far we only know Jack, Hurley and Kate made it. We don't even knw if the plane crashed. Perhaps as the plane flew into the island's radius, an annoying time shift happened and the island snatches the Oceanic 5.5 from the plane, and the flight continues to Guam where Benry deplanes with a very pissed off expression. Because he said once he moves the island he "can't return". P

    Perhaps Widmore suffered a similar fate in the 50's, having to move the island and he can no longer return and thats why he has to dispatch freighters and such.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Poncier wrote:
    pjsteelerfan wrote:

    I posted a little earlier on this, I don't think Ben had to be on the plane, unless he was taking the place of someone. I think he is trying to get back on the Island, but he does not need to be. I think only the Oceanic 6 had to be on the plane.
    Plus we don't know if Benry made it to the island. Thus far we only know Jack, Hurley and Kate made it. We don't even knw if the plane crashed. Perhaps as the plane flew into the island's radius, an annoying time shift happened and the island snatches the Oceanic 5.5 from the plane, and the flight continues to Guam where Benry deplanes with a very pissed off expression. Because he said once he moves the island he "can't return". P

    Perhaps Widmore suffered a similar fate in the 50's, having to move the island and he can no longer return and thats why he has to dispatch freighters and such.

    Kind of what I think- I don't think Ben had to be on the plane, but it was a way for him to get back. It may be that it is bad that he returned.
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Poncier wrote:
    pjsteelerfan wrote:

    I posted a little earlier on this, I don't think Ben had to be on the plane, unless he was taking the place of someone. I think he is trying to get back on the Island, but he does not need to be. I think only the Oceanic 6 had to be on the plane.
    Plus we don't know if Benry made it to the island. Thus far we only know Jack, Hurley and Kate made it. We don't even knw if the plane crashed. Perhaps as the plane flew into the island's radius, an annoying time shift happened and the island snatches the Oceanic 5.5 from the plane, and the flight continues to Guam where Benry deplanes with a very pissed off expression. Because he said once he moves the island he "can't return". P

    Perhaps Widmore suffered a similar fate in the 50's, having to move the island and he can no longer return and thats why he has to dispatch freighters and such.

    all that...and not a single, funny link? You're losing your touch! :o
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    AmentsChick wrote:

    all that...and not a single, funny link? You're losing your touch! :o

    Benry after his tussle with Penny:
    http://stephenreid.files.wordpress.com/ ... -clash.jpg

    http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/enterta ... ben_lg.jpg

    Benry at the airport:
    http://www.lostblog.net/postimages/benairport.jpg

    http://z.about.com/d/lost/1/0/b/5/-/-/B ... s-Jack.jpg



    And: Is lapidus jacob?lost_2_jacob_pilot.jpg
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Poncier wrote:
    http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/enterta ... ben_lg.jpg

    P.S. That looks like a guy I used to date. :oops:
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    spat wrote:
    the biggest thing that annoyed me about last nights episode was why didn't jack ask ben what happened to him?! i mean he shows up on the plane all jacked up and in a sling, but jack just sat there like everything was normal! wouldn't that be the first thing out of anyone elses mouths?

    Thank you!!! That 's what I was saying! There's no way Jack would ask the old woman or Ben what the hell was going on!
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Poncier wrote:
    http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/enterta ... ben_lg.jpg

    P.S. That looks like a guy I used to date. :oops:
    Benry or Beaker?
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    So do you remember how Ben tells Charles Widmore that he is going to kill Penny? Well, if you pay attention to the setting when Ben called Jack (and he is all beaten up) you would that he is on the water. My latest theory is that Ben goes to the boat and kills Penny,getting his ass kicked by Desmond in the process. He escapes, but it was all in an effort to get Desmond on his course back to the island.
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