Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    Agreed. I didn't know anything about this.

    I thought we agreed nothing spoilerish in the thread.
    OH!!! Well I was just joking!!!! I thought this was a season 3 thread, it was Charlie I was talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    http://www.docarzt.com/lost-news/lost-403-the-economist-a-delet.php

    i have no idea how this person was able to get a copy of a pre-edited version of 'the economist' but apparently there was a deleted scene where kate, sayid and miles come upon the sonic fence (of supposed death).

    i thought it was kind of interesting. you would think that a scene like this wouldn't have been cut.
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    JSBE wrote:
    http://www.docarzt.com/lost-news/lost-403-the-economist-a-delet.php

    i have no idea how this person was able to get a copy of a pre-edited version of 'the economist' but apparently there was a deleted scene where kate, sayid and miles come upon the sonic fence (of supposed death).

    i thought it was kind of interesting. you would think that a scene like this wouldn't have been cut.

    I'm glad they cut it. Would have made an average at best episode even worse.
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  • 4Powers20
    4Powers20 Posts: 1,231
    rrivers wrote:
    I'm glad they cut it. Would have made an average at best episode even worse.

    wait you thought last week was average at best?? Really? Sayid in the future? Ben? Confirmation of some sort of "time" thing going on. Locke almost cracks when he cant find the cabin. I thought last week was awesome.

    I think the scene by the fence was somewhat important. It shows Miles "psychic" abilities arent limited to speaking with the dead.


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  • AllIAm
    AllIAm Posts: 1,309
    4Powers20 wrote:
    wait you thought last week was average at best?? Really? Sayid in the future? Ben? Confirmation of some sort of "time" thing going on. Locke almost cracks when he cant find the cabin. I thought last week was awesome.

    I think the scene by the fence was somewhat important. It shows Miles "psychic" abilities arent limited to speaking with the dead.

    yea i agree it was average at best too. last week, while being interesting, didn't really get us anywhere... it created more questions. i feel like we were getting answers.. well if you chose to interpret them.. but last weeks was just a cluster of happenings that we can't do anything with yet...

    i mean where in the future was this? before or after jack? why ben? whats the time thing all about?

    i just felt like it was a filler.. something to get us to next week.. and they are setting alot of things up.

    so what do you think will happen when jacob meets miles?
  • 4Powers20
    4Powers20 Posts: 1,231
    AllIAm wrote:
    yea i agree it was average at best too. last week, while being interesting, didn't really get us anywhere... it created more questions. i feel like we were getting answers.. well if you chose to interpret them.. but last weeks was just a cluster of happenings that we can't do anything with yet...

    i mean where in the future was this? before or after jack? why ben? whats the time thing all about?

    i just felt like it was a filler.. something to get us to next week.. and they are setting alot of things up.
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    How about this question that was all but answered last week, the "he" that Kate was referring to in the Finale last season, was ben. Meaning, like Sayid, Kate is also working for Ben after the Island.
    Also how about how we learned Ben can probably come and go as he pleases.
    And the whole "follow the same bearing" is huge. We dont know why yet, but it is sure to be very important. May even give us an idea of why Ben told Micheal to head in a certain bearing when Mike and Walt left the Island in the end of season 2.

    I would say last week was far from filler. The Nikki and Paolo episode last year was filler. The Economist was far from it.


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  • AllIAm
    AllIAm Posts: 1,309
    4Powers20 wrote:
    How about this question that was all but answered last week, the "he" that Kate was referring to in the Finale last season, was ben. Meaning, like Sayid, Kate is also working for Ben after the Island.
    Also how about how we learned Ben can probably come and go as he pleases.
    And the whole "follow the same bearing" is huge. We dont know why yet, but it is sure to be very important. May even give us an idea of why Ben told Micheal to head in a certain bearing when Mike and Walt left the Island in the end of season 2.

    I would say last week was far from filler. The Nikki and Paolo episode last year was filler. The Economist was far from it.

    i see what you are saying but the one thing i have learned never to do is assume things about this show. i love to make guesses and such.. but what you are saying are still just guesses. if we know anythign about this show its that there is always always always a curveball waiting for us..

    im glad you enjoyed the epi! i did as well don't get me wrong.. i guess i just dont see as definitive as you. all those questions above just make me ask more questions in response..
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    4Powers20 wrote:
    How about this question that was all but answered last week, the "he" that Kate was referring to in the Finale last season, was ben. Meaning, like Sayid, Kate is also working for Ben after the Island.

    for me, that's just too broad of an assumption to make.
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    AllIAm wrote:
    yea i agree it was average at best too. last week, while being interesting, didn't really get us anywhere... it created more questions. i feel like we were getting answers.. well if you chose to interpret them.. but last weeks was just a cluster of happenings that we can't do anything with yet...

    i mean where in the future was this? before or after jack? why ben? whats the time thing all about?

    i just felt like it was a filler.. something to get us to next week.. and they are setting alot of things up.

    so what do you think will happen when jacob meets miles?

    after 3 seasons and 3 episodes haven't you realized that most (if not all) of the episodes are just a cluster of happenings? i think lost will be one giant body of work.
  • AllIAm
    AllIAm Posts: 1,309
    JSBE wrote:
    after 3 seasons and 3 episodes haven't you realized that most (if not all) of the episodes are just a cluster of happenings?


    i mean if we want to be broad... isnt your whole life just a cluster of happenings?

    i just meant they gave us a whole bunch of little fragments that pretyt much go nowhere for us right now... sometimes they give us an anwer...
  • 4Powers20
    4Powers20 Posts: 1,231
    JSBE wrote:
    for me, that's just too broad of an assumption to make.


    fair enough. but like the claire and jack have the same father, all the info had been laid out for us, it was just a matter of putting it together.

    I love this show. The thought that goes into it is unprecendented.

    Did anyone bring up the picture frames changing during Miles' flashback?


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  • Pauk
    Pauk Posts: 1,084
    AllIAm wrote:
    i just meant they gave us a whole bunch of little fragments that pretyt much go nowhere for us right now... sometimes they give us an anwer...
    Well that is pretty much Abrams style.

    The entire show really hangs on how the show ends. At the moment the only reason people are sticking by it is because they expect everything to be answered eventually. If it's all sloppily tied together at the end, it destroys the integrity of the show. It will either work as a full piece or be one of the greatest let downs in TV history.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    AllIAm wrote:
    i mean if we want to be broad... isnt your whole life just a cluster of happenings?

    i just meant they gave us a whole bunch of little fragments that pretty much go nowhere for us right now... sometimes they give us an answer...

    i would agree. last week's episode felt odd while watching and still feels odd.

    i think just because (for me personally) there are so many outstanding questions that 'the economist' just dumped A TON of new ones on us that we know won't be answered for a while.
  • AllIAm
    AllIAm Posts: 1,309
    JSBE wrote:
    i would agree. last week's episode felt odd while watching and still feels odd.

    i think just because (for me personally) there are so many outstanding questions that 'the economist' just dumped A TON of new ones on us that we know won't be answered for a while.

    exactly..

    i can think of a few questions i had season 1 that im still waiting for.. but thats the fun of it i guess...
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    4Powers20 wrote:
    fair enough. but like the claire and jack have the same father, all the info had been laid out for us, it was just a matter of putting it together.

    I love this show. The thought that goes into it is unprecendented.

    Did anyone bring up the picture frames changing during Miles' flashback?

    i'm not saying that the "he" kate mentioned couldn't be ben, just right now, i don't see the evidence to back that claim up whereas christian shepard being jack and claire's father was a little 'easier' to figure out after all the pieces were laid out (very scattered of course).

    someone brought up the picture frames. i noticed it, but really didn't think much of it. try going back a dozen or so pages.
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    AllIAm wrote:
    exactly..

    i can think of a few questions i had season 1 that im still waiting for.. but thats the fun of it i guess...
    yeah, "fun". or extreme frustration! :)
    i agree that i didn't LOVE last week's episode. too many new questions and not in the good way. of course any lost is good lost...but i didn't get any satisfaction. i'm sure it didn't help that i spent the first 59 minutes of it hating sayid...
  • AllIAm
    AllIAm Posts: 1,309
    nfanel wrote:
    yeah, "fun". or extreme frustration! :)
    i agree that i didn't LOVE last week's episode. too many new questions and not in the good way. of course any lost is good lost...but i didn't get any satisfaction. i'm sure it didn't help that i spent the first 59 minutes of it hating sayid...

    i can just see you throwing things at the tv..
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    I think last week's episode was one of the ones where they become a victim of having too many characters on the show in different places. They need to have these episodes to move the story along, but, for me, they are not that enjoyable to watch. (A lot of the early episodes last season were like this ie the cage episodes) They are stuck because they only have 40 something minutes to deal with each week. This is when if Lost was a novel it would work better because you could flip back and forth between characters ie The Stand.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    rrivers wrote:
    I think last week's episode was one of the ones where they become a victim of having too many characters on the show in different places. They need to have these episodes to move the story along, but, for me, they are not that enjoyable to watch. (A lot of the early episodes last season were like this ie the cage episodes) They are stuck because they only have 40 something minutes to deal with each week. This is when if Lost was a novel it would work better because you could flip back and forth between characters ie The Stand.

    i think once the oceanic 6 are all revealed, the story will move forward a little easier. in order to find out the other four members (in addition to jack and kate) they sort of needed to have an episode like last week.

    just wondering, how come no one really seemed to complain about hurley's flash-forward episode.

    so this week appears to be the kate flash-forward episode. jack had his in the finale last season. that just leaves the other two members...right?
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    JSBE wrote:
    i think once the oceanic 6 are all revealed, the story will move forward a little easier. in order to find out the other four members (in addition to jack and kate) they sort of needed to have an episode like last week.

    just wondering, how come no one really seemed to complain about hurley's flash-forward episode.

    so this week appears to be the kate flash-forward episode. jack had his in the finale last season. that just leaves the other two members...right?

    Yeah, I'm confident the show will pick up, it usually does later in the season.

    Hurley's episode was a better episode than Sayid's.
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