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  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    nfanel wrote:
    Helen,
    I don't think anyone has mentioned the idea that Ben is taking different forms (though I can't remember every post in the 105 pages here :p). That's an interesting theory!
    well the fact that she said Ben was getting to her...even though it wasn't ben it was the therapist... that's how it seemed to me... that ben was somehow getting to her by pretending to be the therapist... so nobody knows if what they're saying is actually real... cos it's all Ben. Perhaps none of the 'reality' is real... the 'rescue' could be something similar.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    chromiam wrote:
    Cool article about the possibilities of the final members of the Oceanic 6. I don't think Aaron is included in that group since he wasn't born or on the manifest of Oceanic 815.
    http://tv.ign.com/articles/859/859071p1.html

    That said, I'm more interested in the other 2 who got off the island but apparently died before rescue.
    I believe the final 2 to be Sun and Jin. Aaron was not on the manifest therefore not part of the Oceanic 6.
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    dirtyT wrote:
    I believe the final 2 to be Sun and Jin. Aaron was not on the manifest therefore not part of the Oceanic 6.
    I really don't think that should make a difference. Can you imagine 6 and a baby being rescued... they're not gonna call the 'group' the oceanic 6... and a baby. The number would be however many they got back... I'd imagine.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    so can we assume that Ben can appear in different places as different people? Maybe he appeared as Walt cos he knew Locke wouldn't listen to him that time. And he appeared as the therapist in last weeks one... cos it was she who told Juliette to go find them but later Juliette said that Ben was telling her what to do. Sorry if this has been said or seemed obvious to everyone but I haven't really been following the thread... thought you were too far ahead but you're only a few days.

    I just think that Ben and a select few of the Others know about the electromagentic sickness that affected Desmond and Rousseau's crew and can prevent it from affecting them.

    We've so far seen Ben, Ethan and Richard on and off the island. And we also saw how Richard put that powder in Juliet's oj before she traveled to the island that knocked her unconscious and she awoke just as the sub arrived on the island.

    As for Harper last week, I still think Ben has a way of communicating with the Others or had a contingency plan in place. And Locke was keeping Ben in his own house as a prisoner. I'm sure there are a lot of secrets in that house that Locke doesn't know about.

    I think more will be explained when Richard appears after the break. He has been confirmed by the producers to returning to the show for at least an episode or two this season.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    Good point. You got me. I was watching the Season 3 Finale again over the weekend while hungover and that was fresher in my mind than this season.

    Score one for AC. ;)

    Score one?? I didn't realize this was a game or competition? :confused:
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    thossy wrote:
    Locke definitely has some sort of connection but to me there are two thigns he's always searching for

    He's looking for someone to guide him and something to have faith/believe in.

    Whether it be his dad, the commune, jack (if my s1 memories are correct), jacob, or taller ghost walt it doesnt really matter.



    ah this show is so great it drives me insane.

    I totally agree with you on this. It's like Locke NEEDS to have something to believe in (hence the Man of Faith thing). It also seems like, to me at least, this is his "achilles heel"??

    And...well said...this show is so good it also drives ME insane. Seriously, it does. :D
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Score one?? I didn't realize this was a game or competition? :confused:

    Must be an East Coast vs. West Coast thing. By saying score one, I just meant good job not tallying points. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    I really don't think that should make a difference. Can you imagine 6 and a baby being rescued... they're not gonna call the 'group' the oceanic 6... and a baby. The number would be however many they got back... I'd imagine.
    yes, it is a good point, but I thought the preview said th final 2 will be revealed. Maybe Aaron was hid somehow when he got off. Guess we'll see!!!
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    dirtyT wrote:
    yes, it is a good point, but I thought the preview said th final 2 will be revealed. Maybe Aaron was hid somehow when he got off. Guess we'll see!!!
    ah ok, I haven't seen the preview :o
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    ah ok, I haven't seen the preview :o
    I agree with what you said, it shouldn't matter. That is why I think maybe they hid the existance of Aaron somehow when they got off.
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    dirtyT wrote:
    I agree with what you said, it shouldn't matter. That is why I think maybe they hid the existance of Aaron somehow when they got off.

    I think you need to mention your "Claire" theory!! In my humble opinion, I think you're EXACTLY right!!
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    dirtyT wrote:
    I agree with what you said, it shouldn't matter. That is why I think maybe they hid the existance of Aaron somehow when they got off.
    possibly... cos it's not necessarily public knowledge that he exists, is it?

    And what the fuck's going on with her having Aaron anyway? :eek: *brain explodes*
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    dirtyT wrote:
    I believe the final 2 to be Sun and Jin. Aaron was not on the manifest therefore not part of the Oceanic 6.
    I am suspect in Sun and Jin being part of the Oceanic 6....they were basically on the lam from her father....would they want the publicity???? That said, I could be very wrong on this one.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    AmentsChick wrote:
    I think you need to mention your "Claire" theory!! In my humble opinion, I think you're EXACTLY right!!
    what's the Claire theory? Jack wants to see Kate but not with Aaron... cos it hurts him so much to see him cos Claire's dead? Maybe he killed Claire :eek:
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    tybird wrote:
    I am suspect in Sun and Jin being part of the Oceanic 6....they were basically on the lam from her father....would they want the publicity???? That said, I could be very wrong on this one.
    they're also a little bit boring :o and I doubt it's a couple... it's gonna be a big shock... probably Michael and Walt would make more sense.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    tybird wrote:
    I am suspect in Sun and Jin being part of the Oceanic 6....they were basically on the lam from her father....would they want the publicity???? That said, I could be very wrong on this one.

    Not only that, but isn't her dad's company in cahoots with Widmore Industries somehow?????
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    possibly... cos it's not necessarily public knowledge that he exists, is it?

    And what the fuck's going on with her having Aaron anyway? :eek: *brain explodes*
    Claire will die and Kate will end up with him somehow is my only guess. Maybe Claire gets a vision from Tall Walt Ghost and he tells her that the baby must leave the island and Claire can't, so Kate steals him????? Doubtful.
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    dirtyT wrote:
    Claire will die

    As much as I love her (and crush on her! :eek: ) I think you're 100% correct. :(
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    tybird wrote:
    I am suspect in Sun and Jin being part of the Oceanic 6....they were basically on the lam from her father....would they want the publicity???? That said, I could be very wrong on this one.

    If they are part of the Oceanic 6, wouldn't they get a decent sized settlement? So that could pretty much take care of any debt they may have owed.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Not only that, but isn't her dad's company in cahoots with Widmore Industries somehow?????
    Nice...that works for me. :D
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Not only that, but isn't her dad's company in cahoots with Widmore Industries somehow?????
    OOOHHH!! Not sure. Maybe the island has helped Jun grow a spine and he will stand up to her dad.....or he will get bitch slapped, one of the two.
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    dirtyT wrote:
    Claire will die and Kate will end up with him somehow is my only guess. Maybe Claire gets a vision from Tall Walt Ghost and he tells her that the baby must leave the island and Claire can't, so Kate steals him????? Doubtful.
    true... or I'm sure it will be a very dramatic episode where only Jack can save her but he fails (explains why he doesn't wanna see Aaron cos he feels bad) and in her dying moments... Claire tells Kate she wants her to have Aaron and who can argue with a dying woman? It will be very very sad and we'll all be sobbing like babies :(
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    dirtyT wrote:
    OOOHHH!! Not sure. Maybe the island has helped Jun grow a spine and he will stand up to her dad.....or he will get bitch slapped, one of the two.

    I think Jin's more likely grown a spine. I would hope so anyways.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    I really don't think that should make a difference. Can you imagine 6 and a baby being rescued... they're not gonna call the 'group' the oceanic 6... and a baby. The number would be however many they got back... I'd imagine.

    I agree with this. Who said they had to be on the manifest?
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    "Ji Yeon" is the title of tonight's epi. I'm assuming Jin & Sun-centric??
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    I agree with this. Who said they had to be on the manifest?
    i agree too, but like i said to HH, I am pretty sure the previews said the final 2 would be known.
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    I agree with this. Who said they had to be on the manifest?
    i agree too, but like i said to HH, I am pretty sure the previews said the final 2 would be known.
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    rrivers wrote:
    I agree with this. Who said they had to be on the manifest?

    I totally could be wrong here, but I thought this was addressed in one of the recent epis?? :confused:


    Also...I "wiki'd" tonight's episode. Yes, it is Jin/Sun-centric AND here's a quote from wiki:

    "The actors of Lost have called the "Ji Yeon" the most shocking of the first seven episodes."

    NIIIIIIIIIIICE!!
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    "Ji Yeon" is the title of tonight's epi. I'm assuming Jin & Sun-centric??

    Yep, which is why it is a pretty good guess that they make up the rest of the Oceanic 6.

    Each of the other members were revealed in episodes when they had a flashback/flash forward.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Solat13 wrote:
    Yep, which is why it is a pretty good guess that they make up the rest of the Oceanic 6.

    Each of the other members were revealed in episodes when they had a flashback/flash forward.
    Desmond and Juliette didn't have a flash back, although I think the possibility of these 2 not having one is not very good.
    Cuyahoga Falls 98, Columbus 00, Cleveland 03, Columbus 03, Toledo 04, Grand Rapids 04, Kitchener 05, Cleveland 06, Cincinnati 06, Washington DC 08, Philadelphia IV 09, Columbus 10, Cleveland 10, Chicago 13, Pittsburgh 13, Cincinnati 14, Chicago (1) 16, Chicago (2) 16
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