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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,870
    im thinking of taking a little road trip to boston this august to go to fenway........

    watch out people.........
    We here in Boston don't give a rat's ass.

    Hehehehehehehe.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Does Milwaukee lose a draft pick or two in addition to the $10 mil?
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Does Milwaukee lose a draft pick or two in addition to the $10 mil?

    No, Gagne was a type B free agent. The Sox just get a sandwich pick for Gagne between the first and second round now.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,870
    Solat13 wrote:
    No, Gagne was a type B free agent. The Sox just get a sandwich pick for Gagne between the first and second round now.
    The Sox win that arrangement.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    It's a one year deal, and the brewers have loot to blow on bad players b/c they had such a boost in tix sales last season...so they pulled a cashman/theo and took a bad player. The thing is maybe he wasn't a fit for boston b/c they didn't make him the closer, some pitchers are weird like that. A boy can only hope anyway...still puking in my mouth I might pull a Bonham.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    ryan198 wrote:
    It's a one year deal, and the brewers have loot to blow on bad players b/c they had such a boost in tix sales last season...so they pulled a cashman/theo and took a bad player. The thing is maybe he wasn't a fit for boston b/c they didn't make him the closer, some pitchers are weird like that. A boy can only hope anyway...still puking in my mouth I might pull a Bonham.

    I know this is not the Brewers thread, but was any team going to give Gagne close to 10 million or did the Brewers just get bent over by Boras here.

    I think 10 million makes Gagne the 4th highest paid closer in all of baseball behind only Mo Rivera, Wagner, and BJ Ryan.

    Gagne is going to make more than Josh Beckett next year which I find hysterical.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    Solat13 wrote:
    I know this is not the Brewers thread, but was any team going to give Gagne close to 10 million or did the Brewers just get bent over by Boras here.

    I think 10 million makes Gagne the 4th highest paid closer in all of baseball behind only Mo Rivera, Wagner, and BJ Ryan.

    Gagne is going to make more than Josh Beckett next year which I find hysterical.
    yeah sorry...i started talking about the brewers-sox series, then gagne got picked up...i'm not sure who they were competing with, and why they paid that much...my theory is that they are going to see what this hit does to their bottom line, then get someone good for 10M next season. anyway back to sox news...they're really good.
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    mark prior was non-tendered by the cubs.

    i'd like the sox to take a flier on him if possible.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,870
    JSBE wrote:
    mark prior was non-tendered by the cubs.

    i'd like the sox to take a flier on him if possible.
    2 words: Wade Miller
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Poncier wrote:
    2 words: Wade Miller

    True, but if the Sox could take a flier for the same price that they payed Wade Miller - 1.5 mil - than it would be worth a shot.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • His mechanics are shot, though with the amount of starting pitching the Sox have he could go every other month.
    9/7/98, 8/3/00, 9/4/00, 4/15/03, 7/1/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 5/24/06, 5/25/06, 6/17/08, 6/22/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 5/17/10, 10/15/13, 10/16/13.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,870
    So the one thing that I think the whole Mitchell thing may do is finally get Jim Rice elected into the Hall of Fame. If these writers now take a good look at what he did in the pre-steroids era they'll vote him in.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    The title was going to be Pap's Dog eats WS ball, but I hit enter by accident ... lol

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3163105
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Poncier wrote:
    So the one thing that I think the whole Mitchell thing may do is finally get Jim Rice elected into the Hall of Fame. If these writers now take a good look at what he did in the pre-steroids era they'll vote him in.
    I think there is no such thing as the pre steriods era. There will only be a post steroid era, maybe. Old timers werent using HGH, but steroids....probably.


    that said, Rice belongs in the hall without question. he is among the top 100 players of all time in all major categories.....hits, hr, and rbi.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    I think there is no such thing as the pre steriods era. There will only be a post steroid era, maybe. Old timers werent using HGH, but steroids....probably.


    that said, Rice belongs in the hall without question. he is among the top 100 players of all time in all major categories.....hits, hr, and rbi.

    Well, he's in the top 100 career in hits until about July of next year. He's currently at 97 and should be passed by 4 or 5 players.

    He's a great player and I think he should be in the HOF, but if he doesn't get in this year, it doesn't look good for his future chances.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,870
    Solat13 wrote:

    He's a great player and I think he should be in the HOF, but if he doesn't get in this year, it doesn't look good for his future chances.
    Ultimately I think the Veteran's Committee will induct him, but he deserves to get elected on the regular ballot. I think it'll happen this year.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    With the class as week as it is this year, Rice has his best shot to get in. If he doesn't make it there's no real shot he gets in until a Veteran's Committee vote. The upcoming classes are too strong.
    I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
  • Hartydog
    Hartydog Posts: 2,060
    I am definitely a huge supporter of Jim Ed. His numbers were tremendous for his era. They look even better in light of all the juicing that went on of late. and besides how many guys have you seen snap a bat while checking his swing? this guy was so strong... And played an above average defensive left field
    Boston 9-28-04, 5-24-06, 5-25-06, 5-17-10, 8-5-16, 8-7-16, 9-2-18, 9-4-18
    Ft Worth 9-15-23
    Hartford 5-13-06, 6-27-08, 10-25-13
    Mansfield, MA 6-30-08, 6-28-08, 7-2-03, 7-3-03, 7-11-03, 8-29-00, 8-30-00, 9-15-98, 9-16-98
    Worcester 10-15-13, 10-16-13
  • I had to get the Sox thread going again.
    We added another good piece to the bench.



    BOSTON -- The Red Sox have reportedly filled one of the last holes on their team by agreeing to a one-year contract with veteran first baseman Sean Casey.
    According to he Boston Globe and Boston Herald, the deal is worth $800,000 and will become official once Casey passes his physical, which is expected to be conducted early next week.

    The Red Sox had been in the market for a left-handed bat off the bench.

    A starting first baseman since 1999, the 33-year-old Casey will move to a backup role with the defending World Series champion Red Sox.

    Casey will be able to start on days that first baseman Kevin Youkilis or third baseman Mike Lowell are out of the lineup. In the latter scenario, Youkilis would move to third with Casey playing first.

    Though star designated hitter David Ortiz doesn't rest very often, Casey could also fill in for the lefty slugger.

    Casey is known throughout baseball as being a positive clubhouse influence, as well as a true professional on the playing field. The term "gamer" is one that Casey has defined through the years.

    He has spent most of his career with the Reds, but represented the Tigers in the 2006 World Series. Casey hit .296 for the Tigers in 2007, adding 30 doubles, four homers and 54 RBIs.

    Over 1,336 games, Casey has a .301 average with 130 homers, 718 RBIs and a .366 on-base percentage.

    Casey essentially replaces Eric Hinske on Boston's roster. Hinske is a free agent and has yet to sign with another team.
  • As a former Spider, I am happy to see the Mayor in Boston this year. Hopefully, fans will bond with him quick, even though his numbers have been going south the last few seasons.