The 2008 New York Yankees

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  • MyHandsBound
    MyHandsBound Posts: 698
    Larry, I watched like part of the game and I saw the Joe press conference on tv...he was pretty upset.....did you get to ask him a question....
  • Allie wrote:
    they had a closed door clubhouse meeting for over 30 mins.

    Blech.


    Edit: Did you guys see this post game coverage with Joe! He sounds SUPER pissed! Whoa!
    He was dogging out someone named Joel, a reporter? Is that Sherman from the Post or somebody else?


    just speculation here, as I didn't see the postgame, and have no idea what was going on, but I found this from Joel Sherman's blog:

    2. Let's just say that if it were Joe Torre that did not have Cabrera bunt with one on, no outs and the Yankees down by a run in the ninth, the enemies of Torre within the Yankee organization would still have their favorite toy, the YES Network, running a 24-hour marathon/inquisition about that decision. Cabrera was hitless in his previous 18 at-bats and with lefty C.J. Wilson on the mound, he was up from his much weaker right side. Cabrera fell into an 0-2 hole swinging away and then bounced into a double play that all but guaranteed Yankee defeat. Girardi said something afterward about the Yanks not hitting well with runners in scoring position in why he eschewed the bunt. But Cabrera is not hitting well in any situation. Wouldn't you at least want two cracks with a runner on second and Johnny Damon and Derek Jeter, who was going to pinch-hit, as the hitters rather than hoping the struggling Cabrera would have the answers. Maybe with some time to ponder this the Yankee manager will be able to provide a better explanation on the Joe Girardi Show, only on YES.
  • MyHandsBound
    MyHandsBound Posts: 698
    just speculation here, as I didn't see the postgame, and have no idea what was going on, but I found this from Joel Sherman's blog:

    2. Let's just say that if it were Joe Torre that did not have Cabrera bunt with one on, no outs and the Yankees down by a run in the ninth, the enemies of Torre within the Yankee organization would still have their favorite toy, the YES Network, running a 24-hour marathon/inquisition about that decision. Cabrera was hitless in his previous 18 at-bats and with lefty C.J. Wilson on the mound, he was up from his much weaker right side. Cabrera fell into an 0-2 hole swinging away and then bounced into a double play that all but guaranteed Yankee defeat. Girardi said something afterward about the Yanks not hitting well with runners in scoring position in why he eschewed the bunt. But Cabrera is not hitting well in any situation. Wouldn't you at least want two cracks with a runner on second and Johnny Damon and Derek Jeter, who was going to pinch-hit, as the hitters rather than hoping the struggling Cabrera would have the answers. Maybe with some time to ponder this the Yankee manager will be able to provide a better explanation on the Joe Girardi Show, only on YES.


    the yankeees have had a problem with not hitting while players were in scoring position for a long time now......
  • definately. 2 walks to start the game, a chance to jump out early...squandered. Boston's bullpen came in shot. The Yankees send up Abreu, and then the 2 highest paid players in all of baseball, who both whiff. On the bright side, just 9 1/2 years left of The Arod/madonna/strippers/sunbathing in central park era left. I'll be 42 when his contract is up.

    oh, and as to the point of Sherman's blog---letting Melky swing away there was a terrible decision. Either bunt him or pinch hit jeter. No way you let him swing away. he may be a very good outfielder, but he can't hit for shit. I hope Gardner hits, and takes his job. melky's got a better arm than him, and that's it
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,630
    today's loss was a given. A team coming in on a losing streak. Yankees score a ton of runs the day before.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,630
    definately. 2 walks to start the game, a chance to jump out early...squandered. Boston's bullpen came in shot. The Yankees send up Abreu, and then the 2 highest paid players in all of baseball, who both whiff. On the bright side, just 9 1/2 years left of The Arod/madonna/strippers/sunbathing in central park era left. I'll be 42 when his contract is up.

    oh, and as to the point of Sherman's blog---letting Melky swing away there was a terrible decision. Either bunt him or pinch hit jeter. No way you let him swing away. he may be a very good outfielder, but he can't hit for shit. I hope Gardner hits, and takes his job. melky's got a better arm than him, and that's it

    Giambi's contract is up after this year. And I didn't like that they bunted in the first inning in Wednesday's game either.
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  • igotid88 wrote:
    Giambi's contract is up after this year. And I didn't like that they bunted in the first inning in Wednesday's game either.

    good riddance. i know he's been hitting well, but I just feel like the team changed dramatically, and not for the better, when Giambi took over for Tino. Mussina was a necessity after the 2000 season. They started to get greedy with Giambi, going out and getting the best player every year. To me, Giambi more than anyone is a symbol of the teams failures over the last 6 years.


    I wonder where they'll look for a 1B next year. I don't think they have anything in the system. Duncan can be a decent bat off the bench, but he's not an everyday 1B. I hope they don't try Damon and/or Posada there. That's got trainwreck written all over it. Posada's career numbers are only considered great for a catcher. As a 1B, he'd be average at best, unless he somehow hit .335 again. I think Teixeira will be too expensive. I know, it's hard to say a guy is too expensive for the Yankees. And I think he's very good. problem is, Boras is said to be looking for $ 100 mil plus. i dont think he's worth that much. Any ideas?
  • Hank truly is a moron.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/03/trade.talk.thursday/index.html

    Nobody is sacred . . . nobody is safe," Steinbrenner told The Post. If players aren't performing, they could be benched or sent to the minors. "I don't care who they are or how much money they make," he declared.

    Will Derek Jeter be riding The Scranton Shuttle in the 2nd half? Maybe ARod will be shipped to Staten Island if he doesn't hit this weekend.
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    his brother seems to be sane, there was a pretty interesting interview with hal on the yankees website.

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,630
    is the director in love with the red sox pitchers? I hate when they foucus on the other team's pitcher through the whole pitch.
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  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    it's just about time to start tearing this team up. listen to offers on anybody, and let's shake this thing up.

    this current group is going nowhere.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,630
    DPrival78 wrote:
    it's just about time to start tearing this team up. listen to offers on anybody, and let's shake this thing up.

    this current group is going nowhere.

    If they can find teams willing to trade for them. Contracts are too big for some clubs. Might as well keep them and let their contracts run out. And I still think they have a shot this year.
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  • igotid88
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    I wonder why when Gardner led off the 6th or 7th. They didn't have him bunt his way on like Jacoby did twice?
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  • Wobbie
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    Ding-dong, the King is dead (I hope)!!!! :D
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  • igotid88
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    imalive wrote:
    Ding-dong, the King is dead (I hope)!!!! :D

    Who died?
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  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    igotid88 wrote:
    If they can find teams willing to trade for them. Contracts are too big for some clubs. Might as well keep them and let their contracts run out. And I still think they have a shot this year.

    i think a few guys would be attractive to teams who actually are in contention.. damon (as long is this injury isn't serious), mussina, maybe even giambi since it's only half a year's salary now.

    i can't see this team doing anything more than sneaking into the playoffs, followed by yet other embarrassing first round exit. that's the best case scenario. i say, why wait.. let's start tearing it apart now. the formula of "bring in every available big name" hasn't worked in 7 years. time to try building an actual "team", instead of a group of big names that assure you nothing else but a lot of tickets sold.

    but then again, maybe that's all the current management cares about. they run the yanks more like a business than a baseball team, and the bottom line for yankee co. has been pretty solid.
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  • igotid88
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    DPrival78 wrote:
    i think a few guys would be attractive to teams who actually are in contention.. damon (as long is this injury isn't serious), mussina, maybe even giambi since it's only half a year's salary now.

    i can't see this team doing anything more than sneaking into the playoffs, followed by yet other embarrassing first round exit. that's the best case scenario. i say, why wait.. let's start tearing it apart now. the formula of "bring in every available big name" hasn't worked in 7 years. time to try building an actual "team", instead of a group of big names that assure you nothing else but a lot of tickets sold.

    but then again, maybe that's all the current management cares about. they run the yanks more like a business than a baseball team, and the bottom line for yankee co. has been pretty solid.

    That's why they're bringng up guys like Brett Gardner. We can still use Mussina. Otherwise we'll only have 2 starters. Phil Hughes won't be back until August. Damon. Giambi Mussina and Abreu won't be back next year. If they do trade someone it could be Melky.
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  • NOCODE#1
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    Beckett = Overrated
    said fan of the team that defines overrated
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
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    Love the celebatory hats today.

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