McCain seeks to delay debate to focus on economy

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  • Posts: 6,996
    If Obama agrees, does that make the first debate the VP debate next week?

    Or would each of them be pushed back to keep them in order?
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  • Posts: 5,889
    Thecure wrote:
    my major problem is that the mcCain who took a stand did not get teh nomination. let's be realistic, to win an election you somewhat have to sell your soul. i think McCain was a better leader back in 2000 but look what happen to him. mccain realized that if he wanted to be president he had to cater to the base.

    I understand and agree... I know the pandering and everything that has to be done to be elected these days, but McCain (to his credit) just looks so uncomfortable doing it, you gotta wonder why he would even want to at this point.
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  • Posts: 9,488
    so, I guess Obama initially contacted McCain about putting out a joint statement?

    We'll see .... I'll be disappointed if Obama agrees to postponing the debate.

    The only thing that would make this seem ok is if the actual vote was on Friday and they were forced to be in Washington for the day, seeing as the debate was supposed to be in Mississippi.
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  • Posts: 1,293
    Good political move. I don't think anyone in their right mind could think that it's more than that, but it's a good political move. It puts Obama in a bit of a tough spot, but I do wonder if this will continue to feed into that narrative that McCain's been all over the place in regards to this economic trouble.

    We'll see though.
  • Posts: 1,114
    hitman23 wrote:
    If Obama wanted to delay the debate you'd probably say he really cares about the economy and what a great idea it is. I don't think McCain is afraid of any debate.


    I highly doubt Obama would make such an irresponsible decision. No matter how much these guys care about the economy, suspending the debates are NOT going to effect it. And I hope Obama does not agree to this. I will call him out if he does.
  • Posts: 1,078
    jimed14 wrote:
    so, I guess Obama initially contacted McCain about putting out a joint statement?

    We'll see .... I'll be disappointed if Obama agrees to postponing the debate.

    from cnn.com:

    The Obama campaign said Obama called McCain at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday to ask if the Republican nominee would join him in a joint statement of "shared principles and conditions" for the proposal. It said McCain called back at 2:30 p.m. -- shortly before his New York announcement -- to agree, and "The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."


    if obama agrees, that would make two of us that will be disappointed.
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    JSBE wrote:
    from cnn.com:

    The Obama campaign said Obama called McCain at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday to ask if the Republican nominee would join him in a joint statement of "shared principles and conditions" for the proposal. It said McCain called back at 2:30 p.m. -- shortly before his New York announcement -- to agree, and "The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."


    if obama agrees, that would make two of us that will be disappointed.

    I would think that fixing the financial crisis in this country is more important than a FUCKING election. But guess I might just be in the minority..... I'd be surprised and actually a bit energized and hopeful at seeing the two candidates work together and agree to a suitable solution to this mess.
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  • Posts: 1,293
    chromiam wrote:
    I would think that fixing the financial crisis in this country is more important than a FUCKING election. But guess I might just be in the minority..... I'd be surprised and actually a bit energized and hopeful at seeing the two candidates work together and agree to a suitable solution to this mess.

    I think fixing a financial crisis and picking our next leader are, if not equal in importance, pretty close.

    And if Obama was smart he would come out and say something along these lines..."I am committed to helping in any way possible to work with my fellow congressmen in Washington to ensure the financial stability of our country, and I remain committed to working with Senator McCain in that regard. However, the election is 40 days away, and Senator McCain and I owe it to the American people to have a public, informed debate about how policies and principles." Something like that to put the ball back in McCain's court.
  • Posts: 3,259
    Fucking politics.

    :rolleyes:

    (And yes, I would feel the same way if this was coming from Obama.)

    btw, didn't McCain just acknowledge yesterday that he hadn't even read the 3-page proposal yet? Maybe he had this epiphany while meeting with Bono today. :D
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    chromiam wrote:
    I would think that fixing the financial crisis in this country is more important than a FUCKING election. But guess I might just be in the minority..... I'd be surprised and actually a bit energized and hopeful at seeing the two candidates work together and agree to a suitable solution to this mess.


    Explain to me how this could possible solve the Financial Crisis?

    Don't ever kid yourself. John McCain does not give 2 holy fucks about the economic crisis in America. He's playing political chess and this little Hoover Manuever is just a way to bait Obama.

    The Republican playbook is as dirty as a crusty pair of underwear
  • Posts: 1,078
    chromiam wrote:
    I would think that fixing the financial crisis in this country is more important than a FUCKING election. But guess I might just be in the minority..... I'd be surprised and actually a bit energized and hopeful at seeing the two candidates work together and agree to a suitable solution to this mess.

    because the economy is going to be solved this very friday night between 9:00 and 10:30pm est?

    and glad to see g.w. is coming out of his fucking hole to talk to the american public tonight. he's been in charge these last 8 years right?

    and like digster said, i think picking our next president is pretty damn important.
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    blackredyellow wrote:
    I understand and agree... I know the pandering and everything that has to be done to be elected these days, but McCain (to his credit) just looks so uncomfortable doing it, you gotta wonder why he would even want to at this point.

    this is why i don't believe that McCain is Bush part 2. i think he really believes that he can help teh country and i really believe that he will really change if he is elected. this is a guy who has worked alot with teh other side.
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  • Posts: 9,488
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Maybe he had this epiphany while meeting with Bono today. :D

    HA!!!!

    Indeed, he's got time to meet with fucking Bono ... but, not to campaign?

    Laughable.
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  • Posts: 1,078
    from cnn.com:

    "McCain senior advisor Mark Salter told reporters Wednesday that the Arizona senator’s decision followed two days of discussions with colleagues on Capitol Hill, who told him that the bailout plan from Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson faced an uphill fight.

    He also said that McCain called President Bush today and told him of the plan, but would not characterize the president’s reaction to the proposal.

    The McCain campaign will suspend airing all ads and all campaign events pending an agreement with Obama, though Salter did not know whether John McCain will suspend fundraising activities.

    He added that McCain would take part in the debate as scheduled if Congress reached agreement on the measure by Friday morning."



    i know the aide was stated as not knowing, but sure, let's stop spending money on ads, but let's keep collecting fundraising money.
  • Posts: 9,488
    PEPPER wrote:
    John McCain thinks it is more important that Senators do their job and return to Washington to work on the financial bailout. No word yet from Obama… He’s caught flatfooted again, he needs his handlers to tell him what to do and give them time to put it on the teleprompter.

    they have staffs ... and there are 98 other senators, that I'm sure they are talking to ... and that are expressing their opinions.

    don't kid yourself, it's a political move ... plain and simple.
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    jimed14 wrote:
    HA!!!!

    Indeed, he's got time to meet with fucking Bono ... but, not to campaign?

    Laughable.

    Well he did cancel his Letterman appearance tonight. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
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  • Posts: 814
    jimed14 wrote:
    HA!!!!

    Indeed, he's got time to meet with fucking Bono ... but, not to campaign?

    Laughable.

    and Obama had time to go to Berlin instead of taking to teh people in america. what bullshit we the peopel care about
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    I thought we were a nation of whiners?
  • Posts: 761
    It's strategy, a hail mary. It's nothing else.

    sounds like cut and run to me.
  • Posts: 9,488
    Thecure wrote:
    and Obama had time to go to Berlin instead of taking to teh people in america. what bullshit we the peopel care about

    that was fucking months ago ... are you kidding me?

    oh, but, maybe you agree with McCain, countries like Germany and Spain ... we don't want to meet with their leaders ...
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