McCain seeks to delay debate to focus on economy

cincybearcat

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

especially when the majority of conservative voters are taken in by "Watch this shiny thing"!

I guess the Palin Gimmick was starting to wear thin. Is it really going to be gimmick after gimmick until Nov 4?

If he really wants to help, he and the vice liar should step down.

Seriously, the fuckin egotistic, high and mighty, elitism spread on this board on a daily basis has to stop.

You are so much better than everyone else. Congrats. Where shoudl I mail you your fuckin cookie?

Thecure

jimed14 wrote:

that was fucking months ago ... are you kidding me?

oh, but, maybe you agree with McCain, countries like Germany and Spain ... we don't want to meet with their leaders ...

what the fuck you talking about. i was talking about teh guy who wrote that mccain had time to meet with Bono but wanted to suspend the campiagn. maybe you should read before posting.

secondly, stop trying to put words in my mouth, did i ever say that Obama or mcCain should not talk to leaders of other countries.

cincybearcat

digster wrote:

In practice, it would be difficult. Moderators have probably been preparing questions for weeks, venues have been set up, candidates have been preparing. But as far as politics goes, it's a smart move. And I have a feeling Obama will be much better off the cuff on the economy than McCain would be.

Oh, I know it'd be difficult, because we'd get real answers to real questions instead of scripted answers to scripted questions.

jimed14

Thecure wrote:

secondly, stop trying to put words in my mouth, did i ever say that Obama or mcCain should not talk to leaders of other countries.

no McCain did ... he was very hesitant to talk to the leader of Spain the other day ... (once he figured out who he was talking about)

chromiam

mammasan wrote:

It has finally dawned on me what is wrong with this country. For so long I have been blaming politicians for the ineptitude of our government but in reality it is the people of this country who are the problem. Hyper-partisanship is destroying this country and the idiots who swallow it up whole. Just reading through this thread and the ridiculous attacks on each of the candidates caused me to realize this. Oh my candidate is a maverick or my candidate stands for change. This candidate can relate to me because of their small town values. Wake the fuck up, these people can not relate to you. We are merely an end to their means. Can anyone tell me, in detail, what either candidate has planned for the future of this country. Can anyone tell me about any of their plans or initiatives. It is this my team mentality that allows the politicians to do the shitty job we have become accustomed to. It's beyond pathetic.

Amen.. every time you try to talk issues or policies it turns into party politics and name calling.... as I said, seeing these candidates come together and help structure and pass a bi-partisan plan to help stabilize and rebuild the American economy would give me some hope in this system....

jimed14

Obama stated this was the timeline ...

Obama was contacted by a republican senator about putting out a joint statement (forgot who it was, think he was from OK) ... Obama agreed.

Obama reached out to McCain early this morning

McCain claled back at 2:30
Obama stated that since they both agreed on many of the major princicples of a potential plan, they agreed on the joint statement, which is being worked on.

McCain offered delaying the debate ... Obama stated, let's keep working on the joint statement.

McCain then went on TV with the delay the debate announcement ... which ... took Obama by surprise.

g under p

jimed14 wrote:

Obama layin' it out now ...

a future leader should be able to do more than one thing at a time, Obama can be on top of things in Washington while dealing with the campaign, he's told congress if he's needed, tell him and he would be there whenever, where ever he's needed ... but, it's more important than ever for the American public to hear from the 2 men that could be the leader of this country in about 40 days ...

he wants the debate to go on ...

Old School....Right on Right on, Obama appears ready to debate and "Get It On."

Peace

digster

cincybearcat wrote:

Oh, I know it'd be difficult, because we'd get real answers to real questions instead of scripted answers to scripted questions.

I hope he does it, even if it does not come out in this particular debate. Whatever Obama does, he cannot give in. McCain did this exactly to show that he's the leader, and Obama's the follower, and Obama needs to put him back on defense. And as I said, I think Obama would do well in such a situation, because I think he would be better at detailing his plans, ideas, and the problems with the economy than McCain would be off the cuff.

JSBE

cincybearcat wrote:

You really think all that goes into the debates is the 90 minutes you see? That's crazy talk.

The candidates will put in countless hours preparing for the debate...a postponement would give them a lot more time to "help" the situation.

Though, I don't really think we need more government politicians trying to fix the problem.

it is crazy if you think that i'm not well aware that all that goes into the debates isn't just the 90 minutes we see.

is there no one else in washington that can work on the economy situtation/crisis other than obama and mccain?

cincybearcat

jimed14 wrote:

Obama stated this was the timeline ...

Obama was contacted by a republican senator about putting out a joint statement (forgot who it was, think he was from OK) ... Obama agreed.

Obama reached out to McCain early this morning

McCain claled back at 2:30
Obama stated that since they both agreed on many of the major princicples of a potential plan, they agreed on the joint statement, which is being worked on.

McCain offered delaying the debate ... Obama stated, let's keep working on the joint statement.

McCain then went on TV with the delay the debate announcement ... which ... took Obama by surprise.

Think of all the wasted time preparing stupid joint statements...negotiating the details of every single stupid word...just say what you think.

Brain of J.Lo

jimed14 wrote:

McCain then went on TV with the delay the debate announcement ... which ... took Obama by surprise.

classy move!

cincybearcat

JSBE wrote:

it is crazy if you think that i'm not well aware that all that goes into the debates isn't just the 90 minutes we see.

is there no one else in washington that can work on the economy situtation/crisis other than obama and mccain?

Certainly there is...in fact I'd rather keep washington out of it personally. But I do see some serious value in having the 2 people running to be president be heavily involved and see where they stand.

BUt your statement specifically mentioned it being a 90 minute conflict, which isn;t accurate. Perhaps I misunderstood.

jimed14

cincybearcat wrote:

Think of all the wasted time preparing stupid joint statements...negotiating the details of every single stupid word...just say what you think.

if we weren't in a 24/7, attention deficit disorder, updates every 5 minute society, it wouldn't seem that bad ...

50 years ago, it would seem that they were moving at light speed.

inmytree

Personally, I think McCain is playing politics with this current "crisis"....

I think he wants to push the bullshit bailout and if it doesn't happen ASAP he'll sit back and blame others....but kudos to him for putting obama in a no win situation...

again, that's my opinion...

jimed14

PEPPER wrote:

Since Obama insists on continuing with the debate on Friday, perhaps he and Biden can debate each other....clearly Obama and Biden have some issues to work out these days.

that's actually funny.

brandon10

McCain is really going to look like a fool who can't handle multiple issues.

g under p

brandon10 wrote:

McCain is really going to look like a fool who can't handle multiple issues.

Either way this going to be very interesting is this the beginning of the end for McCain?

Peace

Thecure

inmytree wrote:

Personally, I think McCain is playing politics with this current "crisis"....

I think he wants to push the bullshit bailout and if it doesn't happen ASAP he'll sit back and blame others....but kudos to him for putting obama in a no win situation...

again, that's my opinion...

both Obama and McCain are playing politics with this crisis.

digster

It depends on how it plays. If McCain's sidestepping the debate because he's unprepared, and that's how it looks, it reflects poorly. If people see at as him putting 'country first', then it reflects well. I think there's no doubt that it's politically driven, and pretty sleazy, but still we'll have to see how it plays out.

I didn't get to see it; did Obama basically just say "we need to have this debate" or did he go any more in-depth about what his ideas on the matter were?

jimed14

g under p wrote:

Either way this going to be very interesting is this the beginning of the end for McCain?

Peace

I just don't understand ... I think brain of jlo hit the nail when she mentioned he was talking to Bono today ...

This crisis started early last week ... why NOW does McCain feel the need to run back to Washington and cancel the debate? Why make a statement that took everyone by surprise, not just Obama, but his own staff.

Honestly, this plan does need more vetting, if not, scrapped all together ... but ... why wasn't McCain in Washington LAST week if he felt it was so urgent?