I would think that fixing the financial crisis in this country is more important than a FUCKING election. But guess I might just be in the minority..... I'd be surprised and actually a bit energized and hopeful at seeing the two candidates work together and agree to a suitable solution to this mess.
because the economy is going to be solved this very friday night between 9:00 and 10:30pm est?
and glad to see g.w. is coming out of his fucking hole to talk to the american public tonight. he's been in charge these last 8 years right?
and like digster said, i think picking our next president is pretty damn important.
I understand and agree... I know the pandering and everything that has to be done to be elected these days, but McCain (to his credit) just looks so uncomfortable doing it, you gotta wonder why he would even want to at this point.
this is why i don't believe that McCain is Bush part 2. i think he really believes that he can help teh country and i really believe that he will really change if he is elected. this is a guy who has worked alot with teh other side.
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"McCain senior advisor Mark Salter told reporters Wednesday that the Arizona senator’s decision followed two days of discussions with colleagues on Capitol Hill, who told him that the bailout plan from Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson faced an uphill fight.
He also said that McCain called President Bush today and told him of the plan, but would not characterize the president’s reaction to the proposal.
The McCain campaign will suspend airing all ads and all campaign events pending an agreement with Obama, though Salter did not know whether John McCain will suspend fundraising activities.
He added that McCain would take part in the debate as scheduled if Congress reached agreement on the measure by Friday morning."
i know the aide was stated as not knowing, but sure, let's stop spending money on ads, but let's keep collecting fundraising money.
John McCain thinks it is more important that Senators do their job and return to Washington to work on the financial bailout. No word yet from Obama… He’s caught flatfooted again, he needs his handlers to tell him what to do and give them time to put it on the teleprompter.
they have staffs ... and there are 98 other senators, that I'm sure they are talking to ... and that are expressing their opinions.
don't kid yourself, it's a political move ... plain and simple.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
The first time I hear someone in the media describe this as "bold" and evidence of his "maverick" streak, I will be tempted to go on a shooting rampage.
John McCain thinks it is more important that Senators do their job and return to Washington to work on the financial bailout. No word yet from Obama… He’s caught flatfooted again, he needs his handlers to tell him what to do and give them time to put it on the teleprompter.
Yeah and old Papa Johnny is gonna ride on up to Washington on his Maverick horse and help solve the economic crisis with his brilliant ideas and detailed economic plan that up until late last week thought "The Fundementals of our Economy were Still Strong".
Yeah, but hail marys like this often seem to work, when you're talking about conservative presidential campaigns.
I'll be thte McCain campaign already had the "Obama doesn't care about you, he only cares about his candidacy" comercials already made up beore McCain came out and said this ...
even McCain's own advisors were shocked by this
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
It has finally dawned on me what is wrong with this country. For so long I have been blaming politicians for the ineptitude of our government but in reality it is the people of this country who are the problem. Hyper-partisanship is destroying this country and the idiots who swallow it up whole. Just reading through this thread and the ridiculous attacks on each of the candidates caused me to realize this. Oh my candidate is a maverick or my candidate stands for change. This candidate can relate to me because of their small town values. Wake the fuck up, these people can not relate to you. We are merely an end to their means. Can anyone tell me, in detail, what either candidate has planned for the future of this country. Can anyone tell me about any of their plans or initiatives. It is this my team mentality that allows the politicians to do the shitty job we have become accustomed to. It's beyond pathetic.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Well, whether or not it's gimmick politics, nevertheless it happened. What does Obama do? In my mind he's got a few options.
1) Agree with McCain, postpone the debate. He can't and should not do this because he would be playing right into McCain's hand on this issue. Plus, we're electing a new leader in 44 days. The American people need debates to make up their mind.
2) Go ahead with the debate in Ole Miss. Can push for this, but may look like a bit of an ass who only cares about his candidacy.
3) Move the debate to Washington, D.C. Obama gets to look like the guy in charge, saying that we can fulfill our obligations on Capitol Hill and then give the American people the debate they deserve.
4) Say that since the economy is in such crisis right now, they should charge the focus of the debate from foreign policy to the nation's economy, so they can "talk directly with the American people about their ideas and solutions." This would really put McCain back on his toes. He couldn't say no, because then it would just look like he's avoiding the debate, but it's bad if he says yes, because he's a candidate who probably needs much more prep time on the economy than foreign policy.
Obama, I think, should do 3 and 4. Throw this right back in McCain's face but knock him off-balance. Then McCain would be in the position where HE can't say no.
Well, whether or not it's gimmick politics, nevertheless it happened. What does Obama do? In my mind he's got a few options.
1) Agree with McCain, postpone the debate. He can't and should not do this because he would be playing right into McCain's hand on this issue. Plus, we're electing a new leader in 44 days. The American people need debates to make up their mind.
2) Go ahead with the debate in Ole Miss. Can push for this, but may look like a bit of an ass who only cares about his candidacy.
3) Move the debate to Washington, D.C. Obama gets to look like the guy in charge, saying that we can fulfill our obligations on Capitol Hill and then give the American people the debate they deserve.
4) Say that since the economy is in such crisis right now, they should charge the focus of the debate from foreign policy to the nation's economy, so they can "talk directly with the American people about their ideas and solutions." This would really put McCain back on his toes. He couldn't say no, because then it would just look like he's avoiding the debate, but it's bad if he says yes, because he's a candidate who probably needs much more prep time on the economy than foreign policy.
Obama, I think, should do 3 and 4. Throw this right back in McCain's face but knock him off-balance. Then McCain would be in the position where HE can't say no.
Exactly...3 & 4 work. That would be a good, bold move by Obama.
McCain never had an agenda. Foreign policy is about more than 9/11 and the surge in Iraq. You have Russian navy ships head to South America, Pakistan is shooting down U.S. spy drones and firing as U.S. soldiers, Afghanistan is a mess, North Korea has expelled all UN nuclear inspectors, Bolivia has expelled the U.S. ambassador.
We need to hear the debate on foreign policy, because as the economy has an impact on such policies.
Obama is running for President, if they want to substitute Palin, then Obama should let Biden handled Friday's debate.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
a future leader should be able to do more than one thing at a time, Obama can be on top of things in Washington while dealing with the campaign, he's told congress if he's needed, tell him and he would be there whenever, where ever he's needed ... but, it's more important than ever for the American public to hear from the 2 men that could be the leader of this country in about 40 days ...
he wants the debate to go on ...
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Exactly...3 & 4 work. That would be a good, bold move by Obama.
In practice, it would be difficult. Moderators have probably been preparing questions for weeks, venues have been set up, candidates have been preparing. But as far as politics goes, it's a smart move. And I have a feeling Obama will be much better off the cuff on the economy than McCain would be.
a future leader should be able to do more than one thing at a time, Obama can be on top of things in Washington while dealing with the campaign, he's told congress if he's needed, tell him and he would be there whenever, where ever he's needed ... but, it's more important than ever for the American public to hear from the 2 men that could be the leader of this country in about 40 days ...
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because the economy is going to be solved this very friday night between 9:00 and 10:30pm est?
and glad to see g.w. is coming out of his fucking hole to talk to the american public tonight. he's been in charge these last 8 years right?
and like digster said, i think picking our next president is pretty damn important.
this is why i don't believe that McCain is Bush part 2. i think he really believes that he can help teh country and i really believe that he will really change if he is elected. this is a guy who has worked alot with teh other side.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
HA!!!!
Indeed, he's got time to meet with fucking Bono ... but, not to campaign?
Laughable.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
"McCain senior advisor Mark Salter told reporters Wednesday that the Arizona senator’s decision followed two days of discussions with colleagues on Capitol Hill, who told him that the bailout plan from Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson faced an uphill fight.
He also said that McCain called President Bush today and told him of the plan, but would not characterize the president’s reaction to the proposal.
The McCain campaign will suspend airing all ads and all campaign events pending an agreement with Obama, though Salter did not know whether John McCain will suspend fundraising activities.
He added that McCain would take part in the debate as scheduled if Congress reached agreement on the measure by Friday morning."
i know the aide was stated as not knowing, but sure, let's stop spending money on ads, but let's keep collecting fundraising money.
they have staffs ... and there are 98 other senators, that I'm sure they are talking to ... and that are expressing their opinions.
don't kid yourself, it's a political move ... plain and simple.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Well he did cancel his Letterman appearance tonight.
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- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
and Obama had time to go to Berlin instead of taking to teh people in america. what bullshit we the peopel care about
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
sounds like cut and run to me.
that was fucking months ago ... are you kidding me?
oh, but, maybe you agree with McCain, countries like Germany and Spain ... we don't want to meet with their leaders ...
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Yeah and old Papa Johnny is gonna ride on up to Washington on his Maverick horse and help solve the economic crisis with his brilliant ideas and detailed economic plan that up until late last week thought "The Fundementals of our Economy were Still Strong".
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/McCain_taking_ads_down.html?showall
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
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- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Yeah, but hail marys like this often seem to work, when you're talking about conservative presidential campaigns.
I'll be thte McCain campaign already had the "Obama doesn't care about you, he only cares about his candidacy" comercials already made up beore McCain came out and said this ...
even McCain's own advisors were shocked by this
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
especially when the majority of conservative voters are taken in by "Watch this shiny thing"!
I guess the Palin Gimmick was starting to wear thin. Is it really going to be gimmick after gimmick until Nov 4?
If he really wants to help, he and the vice liar should step down.
I wonder if part of the delay tactic was to move back the VP debate as well ...
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
You didn't really expect something else, did you?
You really think all that goes into the debates is the 90 minutes you see? That's crazy talk.
The candidates will put in countless hours preparing for the debate...a postponement would give them a lot more time to "help" the situation.
Though, I don't really think we need more government politicians trying to fix the problem.
1) Agree with McCain, postpone the debate. He can't and should not do this because he would be playing right into McCain's hand on this issue. Plus, we're electing a new leader in 44 days. The American people need debates to make up their mind.
2) Go ahead with the debate in Ole Miss. Can push for this, but may look like a bit of an ass who only cares about his candidacy.
3) Move the debate to Washington, D.C. Obama gets to look like the guy in charge, saying that we can fulfill our obligations on Capitol Hill and then give the American people the debate they deserve.
4) Say that since the economy is in such crisis right now, they should charge the focus of the debate from foreign policy to the nation's economy, so they can "talk directly with the American people about their ideas and solutions." This would really put McCain back on his toes. He couldn't say no, because then it would just look like he's avoiding the debate, but it's bad if he says yes, because he's a candidate who probably needs much more prep time on the economy than foreign policy.
Obama, I think, should do 3 and 4. Throw this right back in McCain's face but knock him off-balance. Then McCain would be in the position where HE can't say no.
Exactly...3 & 4 work. That would be a good, bold move by Obama.
We need to hear the debate on foreign policy, because as the economy has an impact on such policies.
Obama is running for President, if they want to substitute Palin, then Obama should let Biden handled Friday's debate.
a future leader should be able to do more than one thing at a time, Obama can be on top of things in Washington while dealing with the campaign, he's told congress if he's needed, tell him and he would be there whenever, where ever he's needed ... but, it's more important than ever for the American public to hear from the 2 men that could be the leader of this country in about 40 days ...
he wants the debate to go on ...
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
In practice, it would be difficult. Moderators have probably been preparing questions for weeks, venues have been set up, candidates have been preparing. But as far as politics goes, it's a smart move. And I have a feeling Obama will be much better off the cuff on the economy than McCain would be.
I think this is spot-on.
And damn right they should be able to multi-task.