Gunman opens fire at US college

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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Im still here wrote:
    I learned the hard way you can't just go around calling people fucking idiots on this forum

    bad move......
    Its seems the only way he can carry on a conversation.
  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    my2hands wrote:
    i dont have a gun... will never have a gun... and i am not a slave


    my brain and voice are much better "weapons" then your guns

    give it time.......

    you probably don't even know what is coming
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Should this be considered as invasion?
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    When does someone right to have easy access to a firearm trump someone's right to go into a building without being worried that they're going to get fucking shot?
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Im still here wrote:
    give it time.......

    you probably don't even know what is coming

    What is coming? Enlighten those of us who are in the dark here, please?
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Collin wrote:
    What is coming? Enlighten those of us who are in the dark here, please?
    Well, our economy is set to crash this year. Then you will see this North American Union come about. Then we will see global government.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Nevermind wrote:
    Well, our economy is set to crash this year. Then you will see this North American Union come about. Then we will see global government.

    And how does that make people without guns slaves, people with guns citizens? Today. Not in a hypothetical future.

    Also, the whole with guns = citizens, without guns = slaves is flawed and ridiculous.

    If you live in a state where people are slaves, everyone will be a slave. Guns or not. Your government will not say, well he has a gun, let's leave him alone and give him his freedoms. And when you intend to use your guns to fight your government you are no longer a citizen but a freedom fighter, or according to the state you live in; a terrorist, which makes you a target, not a citizen.

    But it makes much more sense to live in the present tense.
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  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    No, but he said "so what".. end of story. Something bad happens, how to you respond to sombody saying "so what" to people who are mourning..

    The rest of my post explains it all. The rest of the world (and 99% of the US) treat these shooting as commonplace now so unless it affected you directly, you probably didn't care that much. A lot of conversations today will go: "You see that shooting in Illinois?" "Ya. I can't believe that these shooting keep happening. Where do you want to go for a beer after work?"
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  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    Im still here wrote:
    Fear is a bad thing, if the Teachers were armed do you think this would have happened the way it did?

    WOW. That statement right there is why these shootings don't bring about much sympathy anymore. It's the belief that this attitude is in the majority since they are the most vocal. I can't believe that some people are so willing to put their name beside such a stupid statement in the information age.

    Every single one of these guys have killed themselves when they are "done". If they "arm the teachers" (LMFAO), anyone looking for a good old-fashioned gunfight to go down in a blaze of glory can take their pick of any gunslinging, tweed jacket wearing psychology prof (or profs) to duel. I know that most of the teachers I had in high school and the profs I had in university would end up shooting themselves by accident a hundred times before they had a chance to return fire to one of these crazies.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    the school can take whatever security measures they vote on or choose to enact... no laws should be changed because of things like this and no laws will be changed.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Unfortunately these are the ramifications of having liberty in a society.

    People are free to make horrible decisions. They are going to make them no matter what laws are in place.

    Honestly, this to me is a huge call to teach coping techniques in school more than anything else. Include it in freaking health class.

    Parents aren't parents anymore in a lot of cases. We need to teach young people how to handle something negative happening...without somekind of mind numbing drug.

    One, value human life. Two, value your own life.

    Do not make a temporary issue permanent. Almost anything...can be improved upon as long as you are still alive and out of prison.

    My regards to the Victims and their Families and NIU.
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  • jbalicki10
    jbalicki10 Posts: 517
    Hello,
    I am a NIU Alumni and a Pearl Jam Fan/clubmember. I noticed that this thread here and I admit I haven't read through the entire thread. But the people here that are arguing about gun control for either side in this thread are complete jerks. This tragedy is not about gun control and there quite a few threads to discuss this if you would like. Please quit using this thread to fit your agenda. Instead give sympathy and or advice to those students who may need it. Also Please post any forthcomming news.
    Thanks
    John
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    Hello,
    I am a NIU Alumni and a Pearl Jam Fan/clubmember. I noticed that this thread here and I admit I haven't read through the entire thread. But the people here that are arguing about gun control for either side in this thread are complete jerks. This tragedy is not about gun control and there quite a few threads to discuss this if you would like. Please quit using this thread to fit your agenda. Instead give sympathy and or advice to those students who may need it. Also Please post any forthcomming news.
    Thanks
    John
    I agree. Guns are just the tool. They make it easy to do, but the real problem is the people who would perform these acts if they had the opportunity. Even if guns were illegal, someone who is determined to kill as many people as possible while ending their own life will find a way to get a gun or build a bomb.
  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    Hello,
    I am a NIU Alumni and a Pearl Jam Fan/clubmember. I noticed that this thread here and I admit I haven't read through the entire thread. But the people here that are arguing about gun control for either side in this thread are complete jerks. This tragedy is not about gun control and there quite a few threads to discuss this if you would like. Please quit using this thread to fit your agenda. Instead give sympathy and or advice to those students who may need it. Also Please post any forthcomming news.
    Thanks
    John

    Completely agree with this sentiment. This is a horrible tragedy and this thread should focus on that aspect.

    There is a thread open and on fire where you can read my thoughts on Gun Control but here I want to send my prayers to the victims of this tragedy.
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  • NewJPage
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    jbalicki10 wrote:
    Hello,
    I am a NIU Alumni and a Pearl Jam Fan/clubmember. I noticed that this thread here and I admit I haven't read through the entire thread. But the people here that are arguing about gun control for either side in this thread are complete jerks. This tragedy is not about gun control and there quite a few threads to discuss this if you would like. Please quit using this thread to fit your agenda. Instead give sympathy and or advice to those students who may need it. Also Please post any forthcomming news.
    Thanks
    John

    thank you
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    the person who did this is a coward.. and if he didnt shoot himself like a coward...he should have his throat slit on national television... these are the people who glorify this kind of act..than these are the people who should put it all over there tv to get the next loser to see it... if you think this is harsh... watch a network televisions regular lineup...


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    this is a mirror image of all of your brains...


    accept it and move on.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    the kid was on medication from what i read ... i wonder what role those drugs he took had in this ...
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    polaris wrote:
    the kid was on medication from what i read ... i wonder what role those drugs he took had in this ...


    Apparently he quit the medication a couple of weeks ago. Who knows, maybe the past use of the medication help lead to this, or it was preventing things like this and once he stopped taking them, he was out of control.

    Such a terrible tragedy... I just wish the news wouldn't make such a big deal about it.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    macgyver06 wrote:
    no laws should be changed because of things like this and no laws will be changed.

    I wonder if you'd feel the same way if a member of your family was a victim of gun crime.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    I agree. Guns are just the tool. They make it easy to do, but the real problem is the people who would perform these acts if they had the opportunity. Even if guns were illegal, someone who is determined to kill as many people as possible while ending their own life will find a way to get a gun or build a bomb.

    There are many who'd say that It's this kind of thinking that's responsible for the fact that the U.S has experienced four high school shootings in the past week.
    Have you never wondered why this shit doesn't occur anywhere else on the planet with such frequency? When was the last time a high school, or college kid walked into his school in England and shot the place up? Stabbing is a fashionable thing in England these days, but there's only ever one victim, not 5, and especially not 30.

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