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  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    my2hands wrote:
    :rolleyes:




    perhaps you havent seen the statistics for the rest of the civilized world with strict gun laws... they have virtually no issues with firearm violence


    do you do ANY research or actually talk about hings you know something about? no offense but most of the shot you post is 100% horse shit

    Gun control only takes guns away from law abiding citizens, the criminals keep theirs. Why don't you research it, I already have and I don't feel a need to prove everything I post on here. If you don't believe me look it up, you might be surprised.
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  • searchlightsoulsearchlightsoul Posts: 583
    Im still here wrote:
    Gun control only takes guns away from law abiding citizens, the criminals keep theirs. Why don't you research it, I already have and I don't feel a need to prove everything I post on here. If you don't believe me look it up, you might be surprised.

    I see no evidence that you have. How about your provide some sources rather than simply muddying the water with misinformation?
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    I grew up about 30 mins away from NIU and hung out/partied their often before I went to college myself (not there)...
    Anyways, it's fuckin' sick that this shit happens! I'm just so fuckin' sick of hearing of all these fuckin' nutbags out there going crazy on the public because they have issues and easy access to guns...
    I'm fucking sick of it!
  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    searchlightsoul wrote:
    I see no evidence that you have. How about your provide some sources rather than simply muddying the water with misinformation?

    I just posted a thread concerning this, and no I will not source it because that website will be shut down within days if I do. Look around, do some research, find it on your own. The information is there if you care enough to look.
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • GivenToFly982GivenToFly982 Posts: 46
    all these people, shoot innocent victims then turning the gun on themselves....why don't these assholes START by killing themselves? We need a reverse suicide hotline.

    "what, you're thinking about brining a gun to school? don't do that...put the gun in your own mouth."
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Anti-depressants will be found in his system just like all the other school shooters. Cant wait to see how thatss turned around
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Im still here wrote:
    I will not source it because that website will be shut down within days if I do.


    you might be the most full of shit mofo this board has ever seen... and that is saying a WHOLE LOT good friend


    that shit is flat out laughable... is the CIA tailing you?


    hahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,311
    Im still here wrote:
    I just posted a thread concerning this, and no I will not source it because that website will be shut down within days if I do. Look around, do some research, find it on your own. The information is there if you care enough to look.

    speaking as someone who lived through this shit today...you have no fucking clue.
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    NewJPage wrote:
    speaking as someone who lived through this shit today...you have no fucking clue.

    Fear is a bad thing, if the Teachers were armed do you think this would have happened the way it did?
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    my2hands wrote:
    you might be the most full of shit mofo this board has ever seen... and that is saying a WHOLE LOT good friend


    that shit is flat out laughable... is the CIA tailing you?


    hahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

    anyone who has an opposing view from you is full of shit?
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • GivenToFly982GivenToFly982 Posts: 46
    Im still here wrote:
    I just posted a thread concerning this, and no I will not source it because that website will be shut down within days if I do. Look around, do some research, find it on your own. The information is there if you care enough to look.

    Sounds like a reliable source...
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    GivenToFly982 wrote:
    Sounds like a reliable source...
    Im still here wrote:
    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to
    1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves,
    were rounded up and exterminated.
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
    million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    exterminated.
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
    total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves
    were rounded up and exterminated.
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million
    political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
    and exterminated.
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981,
    100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend them selves , were rounded
    up and exterminated.
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979,
    300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    exterminated.
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one
    million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
    and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
    because of gun control: 56 million.
    It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were
    forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed
    by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more
    than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

    List of 7 items:
    Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

    Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

    Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
    percent)!

    In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up
    300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in,
    the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

    While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease
    in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward
    in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their
    prey is unarmed.

    There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults
    of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how
    public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense
    was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The
    Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

    You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
    disseminating this information.

    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and,
    yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind
    them of this history lesson.

    With guns, we are 'citizens'.
    Without them, we are 'subjects'.

    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
    they knew most Americans were ARMED!

    If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control
    message to all of your friends.
    That might help.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Im still here wrote:
    I just posted a thread concerning this, and no I will not source it because that website will be shut down within days if I do. Look around, do some research, find it on your own. The information is there if you care enough to look.
    Lord beer me strength....
    to not fight with people on a message board when they say ridiculous things. C'mon 'I'm still here', i lived in Australia for 24 years, show me a reputable link where you found the information stating that in Australia, crime has increased by 200% and ALL guns are banned. Show me.
  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Lord beer me strength....
    to not fight with people on a message board when they say ridiculous things. C'mon 'I'm still here', i lived in Australia for 24 years, show me a reputable link where you found the information stating that in Australia, crime has increased by 200% and ALL guns are banned. Show me.

    beer you strength, hahahahahaha
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Lord beer me strength....
    to not fight with people on a message board when they say ridiculous things. C'mon 'I'm still here', i lived in Australia for 24 years, show me a reputable link where you found the information stating that in Australia, crime has increased by 200% and ALL guns are banned. Show me.
    http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/aus.html
    more
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
    http://www.nrawinningteam.com/auresult.html
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Im still here wrote:
    if the Teachers were armed do you think this would have happened the way it did?


    what if the teacher snaps and does this... thats the thing... you never know...


    so you want to arm teachers? or have every american jackass that cant even operate their dvd remote to have a fucking gun on their hip

    pure genius
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Nevermind wrote:
    That might help.


    so you quote some bs email this dude copy and pasted... with zero references or sources... and that might help?






    and by the way... a part of that email is the funniest thing i may have ever read...

    "During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
    they knew most Americans were ARMED!""


    what a crock of shit... if you guys believe that shit i dont know what to tell you
  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    Nevermind wrote:
    http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/aus.html
    more
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
    http://www.nrawinningteam.com/auresult.html

    thank you
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    my2hands wrote:
    so you quote some bs email this dude copy and pasted... with zero references or sources... and that might help?






    and by the way... a part of that email is the funniest thing i may have ever read...

    "During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
    they knew most Americans were ARMED!""


    what a crock of shit... if you guys believe that shit i dont know what to tell you
    Of course, no one has ever even thought about invading the U.S.
  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    Nevermind wrote:
    Of course, no one has ever even thought about invading the U.S.

    I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm just trying to put the truth out there.
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Im still here wrote:
    I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm just trying to put the truth out there.
    I was being sarcastic. Ive met people who talk about overtaking some shit.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Nevermind wrote:
    http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/aus.html
    more
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
    http://www.nrawinningteam.com/auresult.html

    this makes sense to me
    http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    my2hands wrote:
    what if the teacher snaps and does this... thats the thing... you never know...


    so you want to arm teachers? or have every american jackass that cant even operate their dvd remote to have a fucking gun on their hip

    pure genius

    with guns we are citizens

    without guns we are slaves

    why do you think we have the second amendment?

    (right to bear arms, just in case you don't know)
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    I know that one firearm related death is one too many, but Australia does not have huge numbers.

    The ACTUAL homicide numbers are
    1996 - 104
    1997 - 79
    1998 - 57
    1999 - 50
    2000 - 57
    2001 - 47
    2002 - 45

    http://www.nisu.flinders.edu.au/briefs/firearm_deaths_2005.pdf

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/02/1072908906612.html
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    NewJPage wrote:
    thanks much. its good to have the pj community, and especially the music, at shitty times such as this. music can be a good healer...
    music can be a good healer, that's for sure. i'm sorry for your pain. take care of yourself buddy.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Songburst wrote:
    I don't think that he was making light of anything.
    No, but he said "so what".. end of story. Something bad happens, how to you respond to sombody saying "so what" to people who are mourning..
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Im still here wrote:
    with guns we are citizens

    without guns we are slaves

    why do you think we have the second amendment?

    (right to bear arms, just in case you don't know)


    i dont have a gun... will never have a gun... and i am not a slave


    my brain and voice are much better "weapons" then your guns
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Nevermind wrote:
    Of course, no one has ever even thought about invading the U.S.


    actually, since the war of independance i dont think anyone has ever considered invading the USA... we are bordered by mexico and canada, and the 2 largets bodies of water in the world... what the hell are they teaching you guys in school? americans are alwaysa afraid of the boogey man... :just in case"... fucking idiots and pussies


    PLEASE tell me who wanted to invade us :rolleyes:
  • Im still hereIm still here Posts: 826
    my2hands wrote:
    actually, since the war of independance i dont think anyone has ever considered invading the USA... we are bordered by mexico and canada, and the 2 largets bodies of water in the world... what the hell are they teaching you guys in school? americans are alwaysa afraid of the boogey man... :just in case"... fucking idiots and pussies


    PLEASE tell me who wanted to invade us :rolleyes:

    I learned the hard way you can't just go around calling people fucking idiots on this forum

    bad move......
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    It would be impossible to prove. Doesnt mean it hasnt been thought about. Go Hillary/Obama '08.
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