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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I think there's a little backstage coaxing from the oil crowd to keep us buying their crack.

    To put it mildly.

    Why aren't we seeing new innovative companies pushing solar kit packages on TV etc...?

    Damn good question I think.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I don't mean to be rude, but I think your research methods are flawed.

    Can you confirm that people here are not just exhausted of debates on the environment. Perhaps some of us are used to the debate and avoid posting in order to avoid the imminent confrontation that is common.

    Maybe some of us were on vacation, taking a break, missed the thread, or something else caught our eyes.

    It doesn't seem definitive.

    I think you will have more accurate results if you just consider those that responded to the thread. There is no way of knowing why people didn't post on the thread.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I would have titled it better...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I think there's a little backstage coaxing from the oil crowd to keep us buying their crack.
    probably alot of truth to that


    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Why aren't we seeing new innovative companies pushing solar kit packages on TV etc...?
    because its not readily avaliable. and "solar kit packages" do not fill our electricity needs.

    regardless, this solar energy is bullshit. its not always sunny and um, well what about at night?
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    I myself am not a home owner.
    One day perhaps I will purchase my own place.
    Perhaps all newly erected housing should be built solar/GREEN.
    This would not be a bad idea.
    Doing so I am sure would lower the cost of the solar/GREEN construction.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    jlew24asu wrote:
    probably alot of truth to that



    because its not readily avaliable. and "solar kit packages" do not fill our electricity needs.

    regardless, this solar energy is bullshit. its not always sunny and um, well what about at night?

    the energy is stored in some kinda bad-ass electrical thingy im sure.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    regardless, this solar energy is bullshit. its not always sunny and um, well what about at night?

    That's another very important aspect. The folks in the UK are pretty much overcast all the time. So it's a bust for them.

    Places like California, Mexico etc that get 300 days of full sun a year it's a pretty good deal. For the rest who get a 50/50 split of sunny days it's a lack lustre scenarion unless they double the panel coverage and drop like 80 large with hopes of seeing it come back one day.

    Once the prices comes down, I think it will take off.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    I didn't even see the thread in question. I was very interested in solar when I lived where there was sun, however, where I live now there isn't enough to warrant looking in to it. :)
    "I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    wolfbear wrote:
    I didn't even see the thread in question. I was very interested in solar when I lived where there was sun, however, where I live now there isn't enough to warrant looking in to it. :)

    Yea I am here too, not in your town living but close enough.
    It rains quite a lot here, what, probably 7 or 8 months of decent
    long periods of solid rain here on the coastal region.
    Like today it is gray out, rained last night a bit.
    Today it might not even be above 60 degrees.
    But can solar panels absorb filtered gray sun light ?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    This thread needs more facts, figures, and dollar signs

    time to fire up the Google...however I'm enjoying some Ice cream at the moment so it's going to be a bit...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    this board; and a few others; were part of an experiment to see how much people cared about global warming; alternative energy; and the future of mankind.
    i started a thread about solar energy and i was chosen because i've used solar energy for over 30 years; becoming 100% solar early 2006.
    an intelligent person would assume that people would have questions about solar energy and it's use; and how they could impliment solar energy into their current lives. especially from someone with so much experience in the field. that happened on one board. this board had the least responses showing that people here don't care about their fellow man. they have no concern for future generations and IMO; will continue to rape the earth until it has no more to give. people here are all talk but have no desire to learn alternatives to our wasteful lifestyles.
    i'm one of 20 people gathering data and the results should be published next month.
    I didn't even know there was a thread about solar power. I had to search for it just now, only to find it was entitled "And You Still Fall For It." How is anyone supposed to know what the topic of that thread is? I figured it was a thread about how you are in some way better, smarter, more informed than the rest of us ... in other words, a thread I wasn't interested in reading.

    It's also possible that people didn't ask questions because they don't consider you to be a reliable source of information.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    many have noticed my DON'T GIVE A **** attitude the last few weeks. i've been given a limited time to live so i won't be here. but i do care about what kind of world my grandchidren will have to live in.
    I am truly sorry to hear that, onelongsong :(

    I too have been given a limited time to live, but I'm not taking them at their word. Not knowing the details of your situation, there isn't much I can say other than that I will hope for the best for you.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I was going to but it's not my research. OLS post a thread titled "would you switch to solar power to save the environment?" or something like that...

    Nothing personal, but if I was the guy publishing the data collected I would exclude the findings here, and the last thread purely from scientific approach...this one is limited, and the other is not impartial enough (i.e. neutral, unbiased).
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yea im the clueless one


    You said it.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    hippiemom wrote:
    I too have been given a limited time to live, but I'm not taking them at their word.

    Laura that mentality is excellent. I like surrounding myself with people that think this way.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Why on earth would THIS board be chosen, out of all the other message boards out there, for a study about going green?

    What other boards were part of this experiment?

    Assuming, of course, that your thread is legit.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    good luck with the surgery roland....your outlook is good.....
  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    chadwick wrote:
    Yea I am here too, not in your town living but close enough.
    It rains quite a lot here, what, probably 7 or 8 months of decent
    long periods of solid rain here on the coastal region.
    Like today it is gray out, rained last night a bit.
    Today it might not even be above 60 degrees.
    But can solar panels absorb filtered gray sun light ?
    I don't know, but I'm sure some in this area could use it. It's just our house is under "lots" of doug firs. Even when it is sunny we get none on our house. I love it though, keeps our house very temperate. We're always at least 10 degrees cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. If you could get energy from moss we'd be in! :)
    "I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    Good luck with everything, positivity is the key to a healthy outlook on life.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    spiral out wrote:
    Good luck with everything, positivity is the key to a healthy outlook on life.

    Ooops. I broke my own cardinal rule... I edited my post above. If you could delete the same I would be grateful. It's my way of wiping it entirely from existence.

    hard to explain, but it works for me.

    Thanks and thanks!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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