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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    OLS keep on truckin' man. I need you around here for an opposing view-point.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Staying positive is the key. There is a strong mind/body connection with the immune system.
    You know I love ya, and I'm a big fan of self-healing, and creating one's reality. I agree with you, and to go a step further, one thing I found to be very important in my healing, and that I've uncovered in the various books on healing--one, most notably in Canadian doctor Gabor Mate's "When The Body Says No", is that it's crucial to feel ALL our feelings, not just the positive ones. That book lists illness after illness that is believed to be contributed to by the repression of certain, and especially "negative" emotions. So, I agree, people need to stay positively focused, and within that perspective, make sure that it's considered positive to face, and feel all emotions, even anger, frustrations, etc--feel it, and release it and move on. Especially anger, frustration, etc. The personality profile's of people with certain illnesses are shown to present similarily--and in some cases people are known to repress emotion, and such correlations with ill-health have been studied and are noted. I've read that it's those who deal with their process and their emotions and release them that have a better outcome. Not those who deny or cling to old and new emotional traumas.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    angelica wrote:
    You know I love ya, and I'm a big fan of self-healing, and creating one's reality. I agree with you, and to go a step further, one thing I found to be very important in my healing, and that I've uncovered in the various books on healing--one, most notably in Canadian doctor Gabor Mate's "When The Body Says No", is that it's crucial to feel ALL our feelings, not just the positive ones. That book lists illness after illness that is believed to be contributed to by the repression of certain, and especially "negative" emotions. So, I agree, people need to stay positively focused, and within that perspective, make sure that it's considered positive to face, and feel all emotions, even anger, frustrations, etc--feel it, and release it and move on. Especially anger, frustration, etc. The personality profile's of people with certain illnesses are shown to present similarily--and in some cases people are known to repress emotion, and such correlations with ill-health have been studied and are noted. I've read that it's those who deal with their process and their emotions and release them that have a better outcome. Not those who deny or cling to old and new emotional traumas.

    Hey thanks. It kinda clicked for me (originally) when I started noticing friends and family catching colds more often when they were tired and stressed, or depressed.

    Anything to nurture the immune system is my approach, and being happy is right up there with the best of the best.

    Cleaning up the mental filter is paramount and a continual process...but you know that ;)

    We are all so incredibly lucky to be at the very top of this planet's hierarchy in this unique place....to be able to be aware. It's really quite awesome.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    I really should force myself to read every post in a thread before responding. Roland, I heart ya, luv.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    wolfbear wrote:
    I don't know, but I'm sure some in this area could use it. It's just our house is under "lots" of doug firs. Even when it is sunny we get none on our house. I love it though, keeps our house very temperate. We're always at least 10 degrees cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. If you could get energy from moss we'd be in! :)


    I love those doug firs.
    You live in the Ewok forest/village.
    Lots of us up here do.

    You can eat moss, that's energy.
    Isn't that gray moss called old mans beard?
    You can eat that, I tried it once.
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    I am tired; my heart is
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    no more forever."
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I thought this was going to be about Boston, 2003.
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I remember the post which you refer to as " The Experiment ".

    It was ridiculous and you were absolutely foolish in your approach to writing that " Experiment ".

    For a "scientist" performing an " experiment" you sure have a lot to learn about communication.

    You're a fool if you think the amount of responses to your ridiculous post, is any indication of the character of anyone on this board and the extent and depth of involvement of people's work and contribution to society or any given cause. Equally foolish is your poorly thought out, narrow-minded and infantile assumptions and so-called "results " from your " "And You Still Fall For It " ......experiment.


    Did you really believe that post was an appropriate approach/prose, in addressing such an important and significant subject matter? You mean to tell me you were actually serious in that post? Holy crap! Now that's some funny shit!

    I'm guessing that most here, as I, thought your post was a written as a drunken joke.

    I love when people think they can evaluate and profile other people (as if they know them on a personal level) , simply by their posts on a message board. Unbelievable.

    I suppose I can play the same game as you and use your approach.

    Hmmmmm.......my experiment in evaluating you by your posts on this message board, would be none to flattering for you.

    A scientist.....you are not.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    NMyTree wrote:
    I remember the post which you refer to as " The Experiment ".

    It was ridiculous and you were absolutely foolish in your approach to writing that " Experiment ".

    For a "scientist" performing an " experiment" you sure have a lot to learn about communication.

    You're a fool if you think the amount of responses to your ridiculous post, is any indication of the character of anyone on this board and the extent and depth of involvement of people's work and contribution to society or any given cause. Equally foolish is your poorly thought out, narrow-minded and infantile assumptions and so-called "results " from your " "And You Still Fall For It " ......experiment.


    Did you really believe that post was an appropriate approach/prose, in addressing such an important and significant subject matter? You mean to tell me you were actually serious in that post? Holy crap! Now that's some funny shit!

    I'm guessing that most here, as I, thought your post was a written as a drunken joke.

    I love when people think they can evaluate and profile other people (as if they know them on a personal level) , simply by their posts on a message board. Unbelievable.

    I suppose I can play the same game as you and use your approach.

    Hmmmmm.......my experiment in evaluating you by your posts on this message board, would be none to flattering for you.

    A scientist.....you are not.

    I really wouldn't worry so much tree he'll be dead soon and you can be one of the charming individuals dancing on his grave.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Jeanie wrote:
    I really wouldn't worry so much tree he'll be dead soon and you can be one of the charming individuals dancing on his grave.

    Sorry but how do we know of this?

    I don't get the blame game going on here at all in either direction.

    Too much miscommunication and implied knowledge going on with finger pointing...it just seems unusual to me.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Sorry but how do we now of this?

    I don't get the blame game going on here at all in either direction.

    Too much miscommunication and implied knowledge going on with finger pointing...it just seems unusual to me.

    Roland what do you want from me? I have no answers. I only know what I know and I only know that I'm tired of the same old people getting so caught up in the "debate" that they cannot see past their own noses.
    OLS is extremely sick, he said so early on in the thread. To then be going after him in a condescending, and ridiculing fashion as I've seen from some in this thread is pathetic and extremely distressing in the extreme.

    Seemingly compassion is a selective thing around here. But then what would I know. I only know that I believe him and I wish I didn't.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Jeanie wrote:
    Roland what do you want from me? I have no answers. I only know what I know and I only know that I'm tired of the same old people getting so caught up in the "debate" that they cannot see past their own noses.
    OLS is extremely sick, he said so early on in the thread. To then be going after him in a condescending, and ridiculing fashion as I've seen from some in this thread is pathetic and extremely distressing in the extreme.

    Seemingly compassion is a selective thing around here. But then what would I know. I only know that I believe him and I wish I didn't.

    Oh...crap. I must have missed that. This is somewhat out of the blue for me.

    Ouch...Sorry to hear that.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Bu2 wrote:
    I really should force myself to read every post in a thread before responding. Roland, I heart ya, luv.

    I think if everyone did this, there would be a little more understanding around here....it seems so many people here read until something inflames them and they pounce...this is counterintuitive in a "reasoned debate"... it also leads to a ton of redundant posts...which makes a lot of potentially great threads painful to read. ....just my two bits.

    To onelongsong, roland, and hippiemom....I wish you all the best...peace, strength....you know...all that good stuff :)

    For the record, I'm very interested in solar and alternative energies, and have made learning about them a bit of a hobby...hopefully someday I'll be in a position to put that knowledge to good use.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    NMyTree wrote:
    I remember the post which you refer to as " The Experiment ".

    It was ridiculous and you were absolutely foolish in your approach to writing that " Experiment ".

    For a "scientist" performing an " experiment" you sure have a lot to learn about communication.

    You're a fool if you think the amount of responses to your ridiculous post, is any indication of the character of anyone on this board and the extent and depth of involvement of people's work and contribution to society or any given cause. Equally foolish is your poorly thought out, narrow-minded and infantile assumptions and so-called "results " from your " "And You Still Fall For It " ......experiment.


    Did you really believe that post was an appropriate approach/prose, in addressing such an important and significant subject matter? You mean to tell me you were actually serious in that post? Holy crap! Now that's some funny shit!

    I'm guessing that most here, as I, thought your post was a written as a drunken joke.

    I love when people think they can evaluate and profile other people (as if they know them on a personal level) , simply by their posts on a message board. Unbelievable.

    I suppose I can play the same game as you and use your approach.

    Hmmmmm.......my experiment in evaluating you by your posts on this message board, would be none to flattering for you.

    A scientist.....you are not.

    Dude...that was a tad harsh. Jus sayin... I'm no saint either but...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    To be fair to the people of this forum:
    When I typed in http://www.ag.com... it sent me to 'www.AmericanGreetings.com'... the greetings card company. A search for 'solar' returned these results:
    http://www.americangreetings.com/ecards/search.pd?strSearch=solar&lpage=search
    There was nothing about Solar Power or Global Warming listed there... although you'd think they'd have at least one card regarding Global Warming.
    ...
    When I went to http://www.agriculture.com... I went to 'TALK' and did a search for 'solar' and got 2 hits... totalling 17 responses (the same number of responses from the original thread that is the subject in this forum). One was 'Women In Ag' talking about the heat and trying to cool down cows and a response about cutting down solar gain in windows... the other was about Global Warming and a response about Northern Lights being caused by Solar Flares.
    http://dgroups.agriculture.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=agriculturez&nav=search&br=All&q=solar
    A search for 'Alternative Power' yielded 0 returns.
    ...
    Am I looking at the wrong forums?
    ...
    I just wanted to make my own assessment on what others feel about Solar Power. I would still like to see for myself the other responses from the other forums, but the only forums referenced here were the two listed above.
    ...
    My personal assessment is that based upon the information that is currently available, this forum had the greatest number of responses regarding the use of solar power:
    17 to 0 from ag.com
    and
    17 to 5
    17 to 12 from agriculture.com
    (Although the true numbers are 17 to 0 and 17 to 0 regarding Solar Power)
    ...
    These numbers will change as more information is provided and we will get a better assessment and more accurate results.
    ...
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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Ooops. I broke my own cardinal rule... I edited my post above. If you could delete the same I would be grateful. It's my way of wiping it entirely from existence.

    hard to explain, but it works for me.

    Thanks and thanks!

    No problem.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Jeanie wrote:
    I really wouldn't worry so much tree he'll be dead soon and you can be one of the charming individuals dancing on his grave.


    wow... there are some over dramatic people around here lately...

    what I learned today on the message board:

    1) Ignoring what seemed to be a venting post about solar power that I can't use in my apt or can't afford = not caring for anyone in this world

    2) Questioning someone's polling methods = wanting to dance on their graves

    Jeanie wrote:
    OLS is extremely sick, he said so early on in the thread...

    If OLS is extremely sick, then he gets all of my well wishes and good vibes, but he didn't "say so early in this thread" - all he said was "i've been given a limited time to live so i won't be here..." Hell, we all have a limited time to live, I didn't infer that he was extremely sick and death was imminent from that quote... I guess I can't read minds from vague posts on a message board like you and him.
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    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    blackredyellow wrote:
    wow... there are some over dramatic people around here lately...

    what I learned today on the message board:

    1) Ignoring what seemed to be a venting post about solar power that I can't use in my apt or can't afford = not caring for anyone in this world

    2) Questioning someone's polling methods = wanting to dance on their graves




    If OLS is extremely sick, then he gets all of my well wishes and good vibes, but he didn't "say so early in this thread" - all he said was "i've been given a limited time to live so i won't be here..." Hell, we all have a limited time to live, I didn't infer that he was extremely sick and death was imminent from that quote... I guess I can't read minds from vague posts on a message board like you and him.

    Feel better now? :rolleyes:
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Jeanie wrote:
    Feel better now? :rolleyes:

    sure, but then again people like me only care for ourselves, right? :rolleyes:
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    blackredyellow wrote:
    sure, but then again people like me only care for ourselves, right? :rolleyes:

    That's all I'm getting from you today. But then I don't see that any of my comments where directed at you anyway, so clearly you were bored and decided you weren't getting enough attention.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    That's another very important aspect. The folks in the UK are pretty much overcast all the time. So it's a bust for them.


    thats actually a bit of a myth... Tiree, an island off scotland had 300 days of sunshine one year... the Western Isles of Scotland actually have a great deal of sunshine per year comparative with say Virginia or somewhere..

    we get some good averages of sunshine here in UK.. especially here on the coast where i live :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.

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