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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    soulsinging wrote:
    hahaha... it was a conspiracy! you were all lying in wait and lured him into your debate!

    can you not see that your views are a little bit nutty to everyone else around here? regardless of their truth or lack thereof, what surprises me is your consistent astonishment at the fact that we dont fall all over ourselves to thank you for enlightening us every time you post. you've said this stuff many many many many times before, and nobody has ever seen things your way. why do you continue to expect you will not meet with opposition when you express your views?

    AMEN. SS; you hit the nail on the head here.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Ahnimus wrote:
    As I recall, it was a perfectly normal conversation, until Dan shot his mouth off, you followed suit and OLS opened his trap.

    "Normal"? Meaning what, exactly? One wherein only you get to act in the very manner you'll later lampoon?
    Who's lacking respect?

    There is a difference between lacking respect and being incapable of it, Ahnimus. The former implies the possibilty of respect. The latter, however, attempts to disprove it.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Actually OLS, the engrams in your brain are far stronger than mine, according to Hebb's rule, you are an "old dog" to which "new tricks" can not be taught. I'm the opposite, I learn new tricks every day. I even gave you a neuroscientific explanation for your behaviour.

    OH; DO TELL MR SCIENCE. i'm all ears. what can you teach this 33 year science vetren.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    As I recall, it was a perfectly normal conversation, until Dan shot his mouth off, you followed suit and OLS opened his trap. Who's lacking respect?

    so you're like God then; as long as nobody questions what you say; or challenges what you spew?
    interesting.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    haha this thread is turning into a fucking laugh..... :D

    you guys are all freakin Nietzsche!!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    OH; DO TELL MR SCIENCE. i'm all ears. what can you teach this 33 year science vetren.

    How to spell :p

    Do you know what Hebb's Rule is? Also known as Hebbian Theory?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Are you suggesting that I have some personal disdain for you that goes beyond your ideology? And are you suggesting that I'm acting out on that disdain? That seems odd since our discussions typically end with you calling me names, Ahnimus. I'll happily stick to the ideologies. You, however, seem intent on making things personal the instant someone puts you in a corner. So please don't project your own flaws on me, or on anyone else here.

    My ideological disagreements with you remain, and they'll continue to motivate my posts in response to yours. I'll continue to point out the contradictions in your philosophy whenever you show them. Such as just now when you claimed to respect something while your professed ideologies would completely preclude the concept of respect.

    Explain how my ideology precludes the concept of respect?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Your ideology is one wherein man in simply the effect of non-man.

    Do you have a better explanation. Is God man? Would you argue the chicken came before the egg? At what point does one's volition become independant of physical or divine determinants?
    Awesome. Shouldn't there be some Wikipedia links in here too?
    If you want.
    That which you are hell-bent on destroying: volitional reason. I guess my list isn't as long as yours, huh?

    "volitional reason" I'm not familiar with that. Explain what "volitional reason" is.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    soulsinging wrote:
    hahaha... it was a conspiracy! you were all lying in wait and lured him into your debate!

    can you not see that your views are a little bit nutty to everyone else around here? regardless of their truth or lack thereof, what surprises me is your consistent astonishment at the fact that we dont fall all over ourselves to thank you for enlightening us every time you post. you've said this stuff many many many many times before, and nobody has ever seen things your way. why do you continue to expect you will not meet with opposition when you express your views?

    Plenty agree with my views. Perhaps they are nervous of the social ramifications of expressing their viewpoint.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    soulsinging wrote:
    becos you call your own statements on here "amazing revelations" and then promptly dismiss somebody else's with accusations of pride.

    Not statements belonging to me. Much of what I say is the opinion of the majority of philosophers and scientists.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    farfromglorified wrote:
    "Normal"? Meaning what, exactly? One wherein only you get to act in the very manner you'll later lampoon?

    Meaning a reasoned debate where the statements made are pertinent to the topic.
    There is a difference between lacking respect and being incapable of it, Ahnimus. The former implies the possibilty of respect. The latter, however, attempts to disprove it.

    Well, it may come as a surprise that I have the utmost respect for Angelica and her views. It's my understanding that she also respects my views. Which may seem odd because we've historically disagreed on many things.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Explain how my ideology precludes the concept of respect?

    my first science professor told us that science will never answer every question. he said only a fool would beleive science was the answer to every question of the universe.

    it's hard to respect a fool.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    so you're like God then; as long as nobody questions what you say; or challenges what you spew?
    interesting.

    You are well allowed to challenge what I say. I'd prefer you do it with some backbone though. Referring to scripture is not going to convince me you are right.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Explain how my ideology precludes the concept of respect?

    Ahnimus, my question to you was to explain how your ideology doesn't preclude the concept of respect. Your response was to simply repeat my question to you, then to complain about me not liking you as a person for some reason, and then to list the books you've read and their authors. In a sense, it seems you're demanding that I respect you and, because of that, retreat from my simple question to you so that you don't have to answer it.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Plenty agree with my views. Perhaps they are nervous of the social ramifications of expressing their viewpoint.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    my first science professor told us that science will never answer every question. he said only a fool would beleive science was the answer to every question of the universe.

    it's hard to respect a fool.

    Ah the divine word of a science professor. Given enough time, science will provide understanding for everything which an understanding can be provided. The alternative is absolute speculation.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Ahnimus, my question to you was to explain how your ideology doesn't preclude the concept of respect. Your response was to simply repeat my question to you, then to complain about me not liking you as a person for some reason, and then to list the books you've read and their authors. In a sense, it seems you're demanding that I respect you and, because of that, retreat from my simple question to you so that you don't have to answer it.

    The question presupposes that my viewpoints preclude respect, which is not the case at all. In-fact, my views of hard determinism requires a level of respect for all rational deliberators. I realize the efficiency of one's rational deliberation is the sole cause of physical determinants. That demands all respect.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    The human brain contains a huge number of chemical synapses, with young children having about 1016 synapses — 10,000 billion (long scale).[1] This number declines with age, stabilizing by adulthood. Estimates for an adult vary from 1015 to 5 × 1015 synapses (1,000 to 5,000 billion).

    The word "synapse" comes from "synaptein" which Sir Charles Scott Sherrington and his colleagues coined from the Greek "syn-" meaning "together" and "haptein" meaning "to clasp".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presynaptic


    To clasp, or more aptly, the word grasp could apply.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Meaning a reasoned debate where the statements made are pertinent to the topic.

    So telling Dan that you no longer respect him and that his comments are "verbal diarreah" is "pertinent to the topic"?
    Well, it may come as a surprise that I have the utmost respect for Angelica and her views. It's my understanding that she also respects my views. Which may seem odd because we've historically disagreed on many things.

    That's wonderful! I'm glad to hear that you and angelica share a mutual respect, despite your disagreements.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Ahnimus wrote:
    The question presupposes that my viewpoints preclude respect, which is not the case at all. In-fact, my views of hard determinism requires a level of respect for all rational deliberators. I realize the efficiency of one's rational deliberation is the sole cause of physical determinants. That demands all respect.

    So you're saying existence as a rational deliberator, regardless of the contents and attributes of that deliberation, demands "all respect"?

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