R.I.P Saddam Hussein

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Well, actually he's my distant uncle...:p

    Thank you, gue. I thought it was kinda obvious but now I guess I'll be labeled as a Saddam lover in mourning.

    Well I got it abook. So no howls of derision here!;)
    NOPE!!!

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  • Pickr
    Pickr Posts: 161
    gue_barium wrote:
    good post.

    I have a reply, a slight missive: OJ?

    Nice point..How quick I forgot about the case of the Juice..Thankfully civil law prevailed, don't really mean much now though.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well I got it abook. So no howls of derision here!;)

    :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    You people are so creepy! You'll hate anyone the idiot box tells you you should. Burn in hell and all that crap is disgusting. There is no hell, morons. You're telling me you hate Saddam for doing the same shit you're on here cheering about?? Take a long, hard look in the mirror.
    I am right here with you. I'm actually basically speechless, not to mention sick to my stomach. But I completely support what you are saying.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    gue_barium wrote:
    She isn't emotionally invested in Hussein you bloke.

    She's emotionally invested in principle.
    Very perceptive. Thanks for this.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    I am right here with you. I'm actually basically speechless, not to mention sick to my stomach. But I completely support what you are saying.


    The problem is that people don't realize that other people think their killing is just as justified as the next group. No one is killing just because, they have somehow rationalized their actions as what needs to be done. The only way to stop this sick shit is to not excuse murder from anyone at anytime....stop accepting murder, bombings, wars, genocide as acceptable answers in our world.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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    -Oscar Wilde
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    stop accepting murder, bombings, wars, genocide as acceptable answers in our world.

    With the exception of bombings and wars and the addition of abortion and capital punishment, you have it right.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    The problem is that people don't realize that other people thinking their killing is just as justified as the next group. No one is killing just because, they have somehow rationalized that their actions as what needs to be done. The only way to stop this sick shit is to not excuse murder from anyone at anytime....stop accepting murder, bombings, wars, genocide as acceptable answers in our world.
    I completely agree. I'm listening to a very pretty song on my myspace comments right now. :) While I'm feeling sickened by humanity. This whole bogeyman-pointing-the-finger thing makes me sick. "we'll kill soandso because they are bad and we are good". I love you, Abook. And your cool boyfriend, too. :)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    The problem is that people don't realize that other people thinking their killing is just as justified as the next group. No one is killing just because, they have somehow rationalized that their actions as what needs to be done. The only way to stop this sick shit is to not excuse murder from anyone at anytime....stop accepting murder, bombings, wars, genocide as acceptable answers in our world.


    ****THUNDEROUS CLAPPING!!!!!!***** EXACTLY!!!:D
    NOPE!!!

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    I completely agree. I'm listening to a very pretty song on my myspace comments right now. :) While I'm feeling sickened by humanity. This whole bogeyman-pointing-the-finger thing makes me sick. "we'll kill soandso because they are bad and we are good". I love you, Abook. And your cool boyfriend, too. :)

    We absolutely adore you, too, Angelica! I'm glad you liked the song.

    When are people going to realize there is no good vs evil in this world, only huge gaps in understanding and learning?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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    -Oscar Wilde
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    With the exception of bombings and wars and the addition of abortion and capital punishment, you have it right.
    I'm not sure I understand your logic. Bombs and wars have caused a lot more death and destruction than capital punishment ever has.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Jeanie wrote:
    ****THUNDEROUS CLAPPING!!!!!!***** EXACTLY!!!:D

    Well, thank you! :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RavennaSeattle1911
    RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
    ooohhh reeeallly!!?
    usa lied about wmd and about lots of stuff-how do we know hes really dead?

    they should have given him life in prison
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Well, thank you! :D


    My pleasure girl!!! You deserve to take a bow for this one!!! :D
    NOPE!!!

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Jeanie wrote:
    My pleasure girl!!! You deserve to take a bow for this one!!! :D

    I clapped and cheered for Abook and I was not acknowledged. :(

    Definitely some really good points Abook.

    Isn't it ironic that we kill as an example. We use capital punishment as a deterrent, or in other words, an example. As they say teach by example, that means to show someone how to act.

    Violence begets violence, for the Christian folks, that's what Jesus was telling you. Eye for an Eye was old testament, it's what God had originally taught, but Jesus reversed and said "Turn the other cheek". Don't ask me why, I have no idea why God would change his word. That's just what I read and that's what my family believes.

    It is possible to dislike a person's actions without disliking a person. This is where I find my neutrality. I can look at an act and determine an appropriate punishment without having any emotional connection to the individual. It's not sympathy, it's profiling. I don't know Saddam's history but he could have been through all kinds of shit, just being born Iraqi puts him in an underdeveloped political and social environment. The religious supervenience of politics in Iraq is insane.

    P.s. WooT I found a word my spell-checker doesn't recognize.
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  • LeilaMoonTurtle
    LeilaMoonTurtle Posts: 1,418
    WTF?

    Skitch Patterson wrote:
    Sorry sister, but the world is short one man who was responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands.

    Regardless of how it happened, or who put him in power in the first place... there is one less terrible person on this planet. But please, feel free to continue to blame it on the idiot box, or the media, or everyone with a different view than you being a "mindless sheep".

    There is a big difference between feeling relief (or even joy) in the death of a murderer and actually BEING a murderer.
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    so cute they are
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I clapped and cheered for Abook and I was not acknowledged. :(

    Definitely some really good points Abook.

    Isn't it ironic that we kill as an example. We use capital punishment as a deterrent, or in other words, an example. As they say teach by example, that means to show someone how to act.

    Violence begets violence, for the Christian folks, that's what Jesus was telling you. Eye for an Eye was old testament, it's what God had originally taught, but Jesus reversed and said "Turn the other cheek". Don't ask me why, I have no idea why God would change his word. That's just what I read and that's what my family believes.

    It is possible to dislike a person's actions without disliking a person. This is where I find my neutrality. I can look at an act and determine an appropriate punishment without having any emotional connection to the individual. It's not sympathy, it's profiling. I don't know Saddam's history but he could have been through all kinds of shit, just being born Iraqi puts him in an underdeveloped political and social environment. The religious supervenience of politics in Iraq is insane.

    P.s. WooT I found a word my spell-checker doesn't recognize.

    I'm sorry, you are absolutely right, Ahnimus. Thank you. I think I'm just a bit more weary with you sometimes concerning my ability to detect sarcasm. I knew we were on the same page and should have responded. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I clapped and cheered for Abook and I was not acknowledged. :(

    Sorry Ahnimus, it's really difficult to understand where you are coming from some times. I have mentioned that you can be a little scary!;) I'll go back and read it all again now with new eyes.
    NOPE!!!

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  • LeilaMoonTurtle
    LeilaMoonTurtle Posts: 1,418
    I was talking to a friend explaining that I felt terrible sadness for humanity and unfortunately many on this thread have proved that I was right--what is all of this about relief and joy that he is dead? How is this helping humanity? What is this teaching future generations?
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    The elements they speak to me.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL3gQO1WxUk
    so cute they are
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Isn't it ironic that we kill as an example. We use capital punishment as a deterrent, or in other words, an example........

    ........It is possible to dislike a person's actions without disliking a person. This is where I find my neutrality. I can look at an act and determine an appropriate punishment without having any emotional connection to the individual. It's not sympathy, it's profiling.

    I completely agree with this Ahnimus. I really don't see what purpose killing another serves as a deterent. It only makes the one meting out the punishment less and all of us lesser for allowing it. I believe that there is good and evil in EVERY person. Just the degree varies. What's that quote? I think, "There are no bad people only bad acts."
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift

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