Sorry sister, but the world is short one man who was responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands.
Regardless of how it happened, or who put him in power in the first place... there is one less terrible person on this planet. But please, feel free to continue to blame it on the idiot box, or the media, or everyone with a different view than you being a "mindless sheep".
There is a big difference between feeling relief (or even joy) in the death of a murderer and actually BEING a murderer.
You're confused. By your own reasoning the world will always have sick fucks...no? Killing one does absolutely nothing of ridding the world of sick fucks. You sick fuck. You're the mindless sheep.
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Karma now there is an interesting philosophy. Let's debate that for a while shall we?
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My, what an interesting week. Here we have the death of Gerald Ford, which has brought forth an encore of praise for his decision to pardon Nixon because our country ... the most stable democracy in the history of the world ... would not have been able to stand to see it's leader on trial.
On the other hand, here we have Saddam ... tried, convicted and executed within mere months. How is it that this country, the very antithesis of stability, was able to withstand what the United States wouldn't even consider?
As far as Gerald Ford is concerned, my understanding is that his pardon of Nixon is what cost him the election in '76. So I think the idea that he had to pardon Nixon to end the "national nightmare" is just media hype. I think people wanted justice to be carried out.
As for Saddam Hussein, it just feels very creepy to me to have him or anyone executed, especially hanged - regardless of the crimes committed. Furthermore, it solves nothing, and may cause greater conflict. This is Iraqi law, but if our government was civilized, it would have stated its disapproval.
As far as Gerald Ford is concerned, my understanding is that his pardon of Nixon is what cost him the election in '76. So I think the idea that he had to pardon Nixon to end the "national nightmare" is just media hype. I think people wanted justice to be carried out.
As for Saddam Hussein, it just feels very creepy to me to have him or anyone executed, especially hanged - regardless of the crimes committed. Furthermore, it solves nothing, and may cause greater conflict. This is Iraqi law, but if our government was civilized, it would have stated its disapproval.
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So folks, not to rain on the fire and brimstone set, but I think I agree with Abook here, how will us celebrating his death change what he did 1 iota? And I'd really like someone to talk to me about the 10,000 plus kurds that will never have their day in court now and have their holocaust recognised because he was given the easy option and not held accountable for so much much more. Dancing on his grave will change nothing for him and make changes in us that we really don't need.
So folks, not to rain on the fire and brimstone set, but I think I agree with Abook here, how will us celebrating his death change what he did 1 iota? And I'd really like someone to talk to me about the 10,000 plus kurds that will never have their day in court now and have their holocaust recognised because he was given the easy option and not held accountable for so much much more. Dancing on his grave will change nothing for him and make changes in us that we really don't need.
Plenty more Kurds killed in the mountains of Turkey. America doesn't care about the Kurds.
As far as Gerald Ford is concerned, my understanding is that his pardon of Nixon is what cost him the election in '76. So I think the idea that he had to pardon Nixon to end the "national nightmare" is just media hype. I think people wanted justice to be carried out.
As for Saddam Hussein, it just feels very creepy to me to have him or anyone executed, especially hanged - regardless of the crimes committed. Furthermore, it solves nothing, and may cause greater conflict. This is Iraqi law, but if our government was civilized, it would have stated its disapproval.
so does this mean the more rational parts of my brain should not override the primative reptilian part?
believe me, i get angry enough to have thoughts of wanting to kill someone, and its often for things much less severe than genocide. but that doesn't make it right.
As far as Gerald Ford is concerned, my understanding is that his pardon of Nixon is what cost him the election in '76. So I think the idea that he had to pardon Nixon to end the "national nightmare" is just media hype. I think people wanted justice to be carried out.
As for Saddam Hussein, it just feels very creepy to me to have him or anyone executed, especially hanged - regardless of the crimes committed. Furthermore, it solves nothing, and may cause greater conflict. This is Iraqi law, but if our government was civilized, it would have stated its disapproval.
Yet another example of how we have one set of rules for ourselves, and another set for everyone else. American arrogance at it's finest.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
so does this mean the more rational parts of my brain should not override the primative reptilian part?
believe me, i get angry enough to have thoughts of wanting to kill someone, and its often for things much less severe than genocide. but that doesn't make it right.
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well why should they? what have the kurds ever done for the US of A?
did you think it was about equality and democracy?
Not at all, but if we're going to cast Hussein in the light of burtal killer of Kurds, we have some friends in the north who routinely execute Kurds and have been doing so for decades. To make an issue of Hussein's guilt while ignoring the blood on the hands of the Turkish government is pretty F'd up on our part.
Not at all, but if we're going to cast Hussein in the light of burtal killer of Kurds, we have some friends in the north who routinely execute Kurds and have been doing so for decades. To make an issue of Hussein's guilt while ignoring the blood on the hands of the Turkish government is pretty F'd up on our part.
Being fucked up hypocrites is the name of the game here.
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My, what an interesting week. Here we have the death of Gerald Ford, which has brought forth an encore of praise for his decision to pardon Nixon because our country ... the most stable democracy in the history of the world ... would not have been able to stand to see it's leader on trial.
On the other hand, here we have Saddam ... tried, convicted and executed within mere months. How is it that this country, the very antithesis of stability, was able to withstand what the United States wouldn't even consider?
This is hardly a fair comparison. You have some serious issues with the Nixon regime, for some reasons way beyond my comprehension. You seem to think suffering should beget suffering.
Nixon resigned under the pressure of the spying on Democrats involved in Watergate. He wasn't on trial for Vietnam, or the actions he took on that front. He inherited a war on his election in '68 and believed it was a war that could be won. Again, though, his pardon was based on the Watergate affair.
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You're confused. By your own reasoning the world will always have sick fucks...no? Killing one does absolutely nothing of ridding the world of sick fucks. You sick fuck. You're the mindless sheep.
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I'm not so sure about that.
Karma now there is an interesting philosophy. Let's debate that for a while shall we?
As far as Gerald Ford is concerned, my understanding is that his pardon of Nixon is what cost him the election in '76. So I think the idea that he had to pardon Nixon to end the "national nightmare" is just media hype. I think people wanted justice to be carried out.
As for Saddam Hussein, it just feels very creepy to me to have him or anyone executed, especially hanged - regardless of the crimes committed. Furthermore, it solves nothing, and may cause greater conflict. This is Iraqi law, but if our government was civilized, it would have stated its disapproval.
let's not.
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"regardless of the crimes comitted"
http://www.kurdmedia.com/articles.asp?id=11881
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http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
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Plenty more Kurds killed in the mountains of Turkey. America doesn't care about the Kurds.
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Good points. Thank you.
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well why should they? what have the kurds ever done for the US of A?
did you think it was about equality and democracy?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
so does this mean the more rational parts of my brain should not override the primative reptilian part?
believe me, i get angry enough to have thoughts of wanting to kill someone, and its often for things much less severe than genocide. but that doesn't make it right.
I get pissed at my boss sometimes.
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is that cheering or jeering
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Not at all, but if we're going to cast Hussein in the light of burtal killer of Kurds, we have some friends in the north who routinely execute Kurds and have been doing so for decades. To make an issue of Hussein's guilt while ignoring the blood on the hands of the Turkish government is pretty F'd up on our part.
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Being fucked up hypocrites is the name of the game here.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Indeed. :(
Which reminds me...I'll take Janjaweed Militias for $1000, Alex
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Ah so we're back to this again.
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I don't think it's ever right to take someone's life as punishment.
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This is hardly a fair comparison. You have some serious issues with the Nixon regime, for some reasons way beyond my comprehension. You seem to think suffering should beget suffering.
Nixon resigned under the pressure of the spying on Democrats involved in Watergate. He wasn't on trial for Vietnam, or the actions he took on that front. He inherited a war on his election in '68 and believed it was a war that could be won. Again, though, his pardon was based on the Watergate affair.
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