Tom Cruise has gone insane...

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    soulsinging wrote:
    i also notice you responded to the easy for you to rebut points of genie, while ignoring my several very legit points as to why i think tom cruise is nuts.
    All people's opinions stand. I've responded to genie because what she said inspired me to respond. I have no interest in debate. I'm here to share my opinions, while listening to the opinions of others.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    soulsinging wrote:

    i also notice you responded to the easy for you to rebut points of genie, while ignoring my several very legit points as to why i think tom cruise is nuts.

    ah, how dare you!! :( you think my points are easy to rebut??.....well i guess true, that's what makes me even more sad :(
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    genie wrote:
    ah, how dare you!! :( you think my points are easy to rebut??.....well i guess true, that's what makes me even more sad :(

    no, you just made the mistake of using language she could pounce upon ;) angelica's pretty good at that, she takes after ffg. the second you said 'should' i knew she was going to be all over you.
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    angelica wrote:
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1772696002128802305&q=psychiatry&total=1256&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

    I think there is a difference between being a psychopath and being depressed.

    psychopaths have constant thoughts on their minds to hurt people, i watched a program where they've showed that pshychopaths brain reacts differently to acts of violence.

    being depressed is a mood thing and a state of mind, but i wouldn't call it a mental illness
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    soulsinging wrote:
    no, you just made the mistake of using language she could pounce upon ;) angelica's pretty good at that, she takes after ffg. the second you said 'should' i knew she was going to be all over you.

    yep, it's true, but i couldn't phrase myself better.

    i do like how you say "pounce upon" hehe
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    gone insane??? :confused:
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    genie wrote:

    being depressed is a mood thing and a state of mind, but i wouldn't call it a mental illness
    Now here I can agree.

    I'm in support of a different view for society because I've been diagnosed with, AND I've dramatically suffered from bi-polar disorder, OCD, attention problems, eating disorders and addictions. I've resolved all of these problems and no longer take any medication. And again, I endured OCD, alone, for over ten years, for example. Bi-polar disorder for about 8 years! The ways I solved them were by finding empowering information that helped me overcome the imbalanced ideas I internalized, held, and that were reflected all around me. As I've become more and more personally empowered, I "miraculously" have no signs of illness and have not for years.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    genie wrote:
    yep, it's true, but i couldn't phrase myself better.

    i do like how you say "pounce upon" hehe
    Genie, I responded to you because you were not being argumentative. You are open to discussion, and were not seeming to be looking to make me "wrong". That creates a nice atmosphere for true communication, which is what I'm looking for.

    Edit: I just realized the "pounce upon" comment so generally, it looks like you'd rather subvert your argumentativeness by being passively-aggressive. To each their own.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Am i the only one who thinks this is awesome? haha i need a bomb shelter to hide from the hoards of Xenu.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    Now here I can agree.

    I'm in support of a different view for society because I've been diagnosed with, AND I've dramatically suffered from bi-polar disorder, OCD, attention problems, eating disorders and addictions. I've resolved all of these problems and no longer take any medication. And again, I endured OCD, alone, for over ten years, for example. Bi-polar disorder for about 8 years! The ways I solved them were by finding empowering information that helped me overcome the imbalanced ideas I internalized, held, and that were reflected all around me. As I've become more and more personally empowered, I "miraculously" have no signs of illness and have not for years.

    maybe you never actually had them and were just seeking attention?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    Genie, I responded to you because you were not being argumentative. You are open to discussion, and were not seeming to be looking to make me "wrong". That creates a nice atmosphere for true communication, which is what I'm looking for.

    Edit: I just realized the "pounce upon" comment so generally, it looks like you'd rather subvert your argumentativeness by being passively-aggressive. To each their own.

    indeed. you were very open to discuss when you came right out on me to say i was wrong to ever call tom cruise crazy. and genie's the passive aggressive one eh? pot, meet the kettle. not every thread in the moving train is about your past history. you're as bad and blind as ahnimus, only at the opposite end of the spectrum.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    soulsinging wrote:
    maybe you never actually had them and were just seeking attention?
    These are intricately connected power-charged situations that develop within the social power environment, being the family and the further reaching social institutions that surround the individual. The person takes on these imbalanced dynamics, reflecting the power dynamics around them, and including their own personal consitution.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    These are intricately connected power-charged situations that develop within the social power environment, being the family and the further reaching social institutions that surround the individual. The person takes on these imbalanced dynamics, reflecting the power dynamics around them, and including their own personal consitution.

    are you saying mental illness has nothing to do with brain chemistry, ever? how come some people grow up fine from really fucked up families? how come some people have flawless upbringing but end up batshit crazy?
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    soulsinging wrote:
    indeed. you were very open to discuss when you came right out on me to say i was wrong to ever call tom cruise crazy. and genie's the passive aggressive one eh? pot, meet the kettle. not every thread in the moving train is about your past history. you're as bad and blind as ahnimus, only at the opposite end of the spectrum.
    If you can show me where I said something passively-aggressive, I'll be happy to respond.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Even funnier is that he is supposedly pissed someone farted!!!

    http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/forums/viewthread/6652/

    (You have to scroll down a bit)
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    soulsinging wrote:
    are you saying mental illness has nothing to do with brain chemistry, ever? how come some people grow up fine from really fucked up families? how come some people have flawless upbringing but end up batshit crazy?
    Of course mental health issues have to do with brain chemistry.

    Our dna blueprint is molded into a 3-d reality by the environmental interactions we experience as our brain quadruples in size over development since birth. Our brains are dynamic, and not rigid static systems.

    If my boyfriend abuses me for five years, it will show in how I internalize the abuse and will have indicators in my brain chemistry. These dynamics can be affected from within, and also by changing the types of environmental conditions one interacts with outside. For example, by leaving said abusive boyfriend.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    If you can show me where I said something passively-aggressive, I'll be happy to respond.

    "If villifying and shunning perfectly functional adults as "crazy" is fun for you, who am I to complain."

    that's about the definition... you draw huge conclusions about the poster's intentions, label them with negative connotations and judgments, then give yourself the "out" by acting like you're not doing the same amount of conclusory judging you deride them for. we call tom cruise crazy and own our beliefs, you accuse us of deriving pleasure through demeaning others but try to act like it's not an opinion you hold.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    soulsinging wrote:
    are you saying mental illness has nothing to do with brain chemistry, ever? how come some people grow up fine from really fucked up families? how come some people have flawless upbringing but end up batshit crazy?
    Did you notice I said it has to do with our own personal constitution, which means that how we process things is a big part of it. I'm a very emotionally sensitive person. I was taught to deny and repress my emotions and remaining very sensitive, my emotions operated beneath the surface, wreaking havoc in terms of OCD, and eventually bi-polar disorder.

    The stigmatized ideas of "crazy" and the power issues of "mental illness" and my being "genetically "flawed" have nothing to do with this factual reality. When we understand, the degrading issues of "crazy" the power imbalances dissipate.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    soulsinging wrote:
    "If villifying and shunning perfectly functional adults as "crazy" is fun for you, who am I to complain."

    that's about the definition... you draw huge conclusions about the poster's intentions, label them with negative connotations and judgments, then give yourself the "out" by acting like you're not doing the same amount of conclusory judging you deride them for. we call tom cruise crazy and own our beliefs, you accuse us of deriving pleasure through demeaning others but try to act like it's not an opinion you hold.
    My apologies: I intended that comment to be openly aggressive, not passive.

    When someone is degrading someone, and saying it's fun, I've been known to be obnoxious from time to time.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    Did you notice I said it has to do with our own personal constitution, which means that how we process things is a big part of it. I'm a very emotionally sensitive person. I was taught to deny and repress my emotions and remaining very sensitive, my emotions operated beneath the surface, wreaking havoc in terms of OCD, and eventually bi-polar disorder.

    The stigmatized ideas of "crazy" and the power issues of "mental illness" and my being "genetically "flawed" have nothing to do with this factual reality. When we understand, the degrading issues of "crazy" the power imbalances dissipate.

    yet you say you agree with genie that depression is not a mental illness and should not be medicated, based solely upon the fact that you got over your issues that way? aren't you degrading the severity of their illness?

    eg. do you agree with tom cruise that brooke shields should not have taken medication to help with her post-partum depression? how come you discredit genie for the line she draws, then you decide you can draw your own lines about what is real mental illness and what isnt?

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