Tom Cruise has gone insane...

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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Nice Franklin quote...It ain't easy being white...

    thanks, gotta spread the AD love when i can. didja get my pm?
  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    dunkman wrote:
    apparently he's built it to be just over 5ft in height... to allow him room to use his trampoline.

    HAHAHA!!!!

    I'm just getting caught up here and I think this comment is hysterically funny. A nice way to break up the whole "mental illness debate" anyway.

    I don't know that Tom Cruise is mentally ill, but I would say he may have been brainwashed by his religion. But meh...who hasn't been brainwashed by a religion?

    Seriously, the guy is at the stage or rank (or whatever its called) in Scientology where he believes he can control time, space, the thoughts and deeds of others as well as walk through walls.

    Nah...I'd say he's perfectly fine. Doesn't everyone think that way?
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    fair enough. i got the impression you were telling her things like depression aren't real mental illness and shouldn't be treated medically.
    I use the term "mental health issues" because they happen on a continuum and people are always along the continuum somewhere...sometimes more happy, sometimes more sad, sometimes the ideas are more unique/unusual etc. I see mental health issues as being about prevention, and about support, and about finding healthier ways. To draw a line and making them about healthy/unhealthy is kinda a modern day good/bad. In terms of social power dynamics when we label one person in the system as "crazy" it is not accurate at all, imo. People like to point the finger, to keep the attention off of themselves......
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    Me neither. :) If you've ever followed my Ahnimus talks, I've actually said repeatedly that I don't consider myself enlightened. People use "my" enlightenment as a straw man argument against me....;)

    What I claim is to be integrated, which means that I am just as comfortable using an emotional or intuitive argument as a reasoned one. I don't buy into society's prioritizing one above another.

    i see. the enlightened thing is brought upon yourself though. you come off slightly condescending at times, for the reasons i pointed out with your post earlier... that passive-aggressive (it's not truly openly aggressive) dismissing people's views while pretending to accept them thing. i've seen you do it often and it's why i brought out the enlightened thing, becos it reads pretty arrogant when you do it.

    i never follow your ahnimus talks. you guys are nuts ;)
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    HAHAHA!!!!

    I'm just getting caught up here and I think this comment is hysterically funny. A nice way to break up the whole "mental illness debate" anyway.

    I don't know that Tom Cruise is mentally ill, but I would say he may have been brainwashed by his religion. But meh...who hasn't been brainwashed by a religion?

    Seriously, the guy is at the stage or rank (or whatever its called) in Scientology where he believes he can control time, space, the thoughts and deeds of others as well as walk through walls.

    Nah...I'd say he's perfectly fine. Doesn't everyone think that way?

    brainwashed for sure. perfectly fine? well maybe expect for the brainwashed part. ;) plus, 10 mil really isnt that much to him anyway.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Doesn't everyone think that way?
    No, just enlightened people.
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222

    I don't know that Tom Cruise is mentally ill, but I would say he may have been brainwashed by his religion. But meh...who hasn't been brainwashed by a religion?

    yes, i totally agree.
    Nah...I'd say he's perfectly fine. Doesn't everyone think that way?

    and nope, i totally disagree. It ain't right walking around with a brainwashed head. next think he'll be hearing voices ;):D and we all know what that can lead to ;)
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    I use the term "mental health issues" because they happen on a continuum and people are always along the continuum somewhere...sometimes more happy, sometimes more sad, sometimes the ideas are more unique/unusual etc. I see mental health issues as being about prevention, and about support, and about finding healthier ways. To draw a line and making them about healthy/unhealthy is kinda a modern day good/bad. In terms of social power dynamics when we label one person in the system as "crazy" it is not accurate at all, imo. People like to point the finger, to keep the attention off of themselves......

    crazy has a ton of connotations and definitions. it is not solely about mental health and illness. shit, the only reason we talk about mental illness is so that it is not confused with the popular connotation of crazy (just whacky or eccentric). the same thing happened with mentally disabled, which was retarded until retarded had so many pop culture definitions and a new term was needed to separate the popular from the clinical. the use of the word crazy in here is meaningless in terms of a real debate about mental health issues.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    angelica wrote:
    No, just enlightened people.

    um, what do you mean by that?
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    i see. the enlightened thing is brought upon yourself though. you come off slightly condescending at times, for the reasons i pointed out with your post earlier... that passive-aggressive (it's not truly openly aggressive) dismissing people's views while pretending to accept them thing. i've seen you do it often and it's why i brought out the enlightened thing, becos it reads pretty arrogant when you do it.

    i never follow your ahnimus talks. you guys are nuts ;)
    I'm a person. I have a view limited to my individuality. There's no way in the world I can be perfect. Maybe some day people will accept that. Do I have a high self-esteem? Yep. Do I make huge mistakes? Yep. Do I sometimes have a towering ego? Yes.

    Also, when I'm misunderstood, while I contribute to it, it also takes "two", including those judging me and projecting their impressions on me.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    jlew24asu wrote:
    um, what do you mean by that?
    If you ever read up on enlightened people, they have abilities not represented by the common person.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222

    i never follow your ahnimus talks. you guys are nuts ;)

    where is ahnimus, that smart cookie ;) shouldn't he be here? :D
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    angelica wrote:
    If you ever read up on enlightened people, they have abilities not represented by the common person.
    sounds like a bunch of elitist talk.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    I'm a person. I have a view limited to my individuality. There's no way in the world I can be perfect. Maybe some day people will accept that. Do I have a high self-esteem? Yep. Do I make huge mistakes? Yep. Do I sometimes have a towering ego? Yes.

    Also, when I'm misunderstood, while I contribute to it, it also takes "two", including those judging me and projecting their impressions on me.

    that's nonsense. we all make judgments 100% of the time 24/7. it's how we interact. if you write like an egomaniac, nobody is projecting arrogance on you, you are creating it. period. they simply react to it and act accordingly.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sounds like a bunch of elitist talk.

    you're just jealous that angelica and tom cruise can walk through walls and you can't ;)
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    angelica wrote:
    If you ever read up on enlightened people, they have abilities not represented by the common person.
    ...
    Can't anyone claim to be 'Enlightened'?
    Is that title awarded to them by others? Is the 'Elightened' title handed out as easily as the 'Genius' title... or 'Hero'?
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  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    genie wrote:
    and nope, i totally disagree. It ain't right walking around with a brainwashed head. next think he'll be hearing voices ;):D and we all know what that can lead to ;)

    yah, next thing you know, those voices tell you to build a 10mil bunker somewhere...oh, crap...wait.....nevermind. that's a bad example. :p

    wouldn't it be funny if an alien invasion DID happen and the only survivor was Tom Cruise? We'd all look like a bunch of stupid dumb shits. :D
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sounds like a bunch of elitist talk.

    it also sounds like something preacher would say
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    yah, next thing you know, those voices tell you to build a 10mil bunker somewhere...oh, crap...wait.....nevermind. that's a bad example. :p

    wouldn't it be funny if an alien invasion DID happen and the only survivor was Tom Cruise? We'd all look like a bunch of stupid dumb shits. :D

    well, i won't be ;)



























    cause i'd be happily dead :D unlike Tom sitting in his bunker for the rest of his life
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    And the bottom line for me is... who cares?
    I believe that there are people who just have too much money. What does one person need 1.5 billions dollars for?
    A: To build a 10 million dollar underground bunker for whatever reason he feels like... just like Bill gates building a full on bowling alley in his house.. or Larry Ellison having a house with 80 fucking bedrooms.
    ...
    What's the difference?
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Cosmo wrote:
    And the bottom line for me is... who cares?
    I believe that there are people who just have too much money. What does one person need 1.5 billions dollars for?
    A: To build a 10 million dollar underground bunker for whatever reason he feels like... just like Bill gates building a full on bowling alley in his house.. or Larry Ellison having a house with 80 fucking bedrooms.
    ...
    What's the difference?

    you can bowl in a bowling alley. you can entertain a lot of guests with 80 bedrooms. but if aliens don't invade, that bunker isn't doing much ;)
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    Cosmo wrote:
    And the bottom line for me is... who cares?
    I believe that there are people who just have too much money. What does one person need 1.5 billions dollars for?
    A: To build a 10 million dollar underground bunker for whatever reason he feels like... just like Bill gates building a full on bowling alley in his house.. or Larry Ellison having a house with 80 fucking bedrooms.
    ...
    What's the difference?

    hmm....bowling alley sounds cool, he should throw in a swimming pool, a bar, and tennis court....hmm....what else???


    oh and when you say 80 fucking bedrooms, do you mean bedrooms specifically designed for fucking :D oh, i'm sorry people, i just can't help myself saying this.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    you can bowl in a bowling alley. you can entertain a lot of guests with 80 bedrooms. but if aliens don't invade, that bunker isn't doing much ;)
    ...
    But, I bet it's gonna be pretty swank. What if Tom installs a bowling alley and 80 bedrooms down there?
    ...
    You should see the cavernous dungeon that is under my workplace... it was built in the 1950s when the Soviets were going to nuke us. Living like a mole on red or yellow hard candy with all of my co-workers was not my idea of survival... I'll take my chances above ground.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    genie wrote:
    hmm....bowling alley sounds cool, he should throw in a swimming pool, a bar, and tennis court....hmm....what else???


    oh and when you say 80 fucking bedrooms, do you mean bedrooms specifically designed for fucking :D oh, i'm sorry people, i just can't help myself saying this.
    ...
    Isn't that why God invented bedrooms?
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Isn't that why God invented bedrooms?

    yep. He also made women form Venus and men from Mars, so that we wouldn't be able to understand each other properly. Therefore we wouldn't be able to have loooonngg discussions and just get down to business quicker ;) i.e procreation :D
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    But, I bet it's gonna be pretty swank. What if Tom installs a bowling alley and 80 bedrooms down there?
    ...
    You should see the cavernous dungeon that is under my workplace... it was built in the 1950s when the Soviets were going to nuke us. Living like a mole on red or yellow hard candy with all of my co-workers was not my idea of survival... I'll take my chances above ground.

    a bowling alley, 80 bedrooms, and a brainwashed katie holmes to be my sex slave? i'd never come out. i guess i can see his point of view now.
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    a bowling alley, 80 bedrooms, and a brainwashed katie holmes to be my sex slave? i'd never come out. i guess i can see his point of view now.

    alright, let me give you a food for thought. why have 80 bedrooms only for Katie Holmes ;):D
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    that's nonsense. we all make judgments 100% of the time 24/7. it's how we interact. if you write like an egomaniac, nobody is projecting arrogance on you, you are creating it. period. they simply react to it and act accordingly.
    I personally make judgments all the time. However, I endeavor to own my judgments and not make them about others, even when they appear to be about others to me. The problem comes in when people actually think their judgments define others...they believe that because they perceive something, their perception makes them objectively accurate, which is often not the case. This is whether I do so, or whether others do. Our judgments are about us. So anytime someone projects something at someone, there are two variables: the projector and the projectee. This can play out in different ways. What the projector projects is always independent of what the projectee does, even if they seem to match up. Other times, they are completely out of synch. For example, the "weapons of mass destruction" projected on an entire country--completely fallacy.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    genie wrote:
    alright, let me give you a food for thought. why have 80 bedrooms only for Katie Holmes ;):D
    ...
    I bet that's Katie's idea... more rooms to hide from him.
    ...
    Oh, wait... she doesn't have to worry about him... she doesn't have a penis.
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