Hello from Israel

thankyougrandma wrote:

Who's asking for the USA to settle everything? ...

Actually, the USA has been asked many times to get involved in other's affairs.

thankyougrandma wrote:

The USA decide to settle stuff they consider in their best imperial and commericial interest.

That's true to a great extent. But not always true in every case and situation.

thankyougrandma wrote:

Oh, the only real thing that could be done by Americans FOR the world, would be to elect a real President, enough of these puppets...

He wasn't elected. He was placed in the position.

But yeah, Americans need to smell the coffee and wake the fuck up. We need to take our country back and take back our rights. Way too many sheep in this country.

It would also be nice if Canada grew a spine.

rightondude wrote:

Evil deeds and thoughts have no place in the goodness of mankind. What do you stand for? what do you really represent?

You are already dead from within, yet you don't see it. Your battle is a losing one. It cannot, and will not, ever "win" anything. Whether it's this civilization or the next, the evil thought process(s) within you will not prevail...ever.

Thank you jedi master.

Edit: i missed the Obi Wan comment. Didnt mean to hook myself to your star Flannel.

NMyTree wrote:

1) "The whole World" does not have the same opinion on Israel and the mess that's been going on in the Middle East, for hundreds......thousands of years. There are as many varying, different and opposing opinions on this, as there are plant life.

It's absurd that you think you can speak for "the whole world".

2) As for our stupid President, I think a lot of people ( Americans) disagree with him and his band of hateful thugs (Cheney, Rumsfeld...etc).

3) The Muslim world or as they love to refer to themsleves ...."The Islamic Nations" are just as guilty now and have been for thousands of years- of the very same attrocities, propaganda, murder and slaughter you so gleefully accuse America and Israel of.

People like you will never learn that this a a war of bad guys vs. bad guys. There are no good guys in this whole mess.

Until people like you stop being suckers (Sheep) for one side or the other and stop defending one side (or the other) as if that one side are innocent victims; then no one will ever come together and pressure, force and demand that the murder and slaughter cease.

4) Canada is involved in this and they have played their part. Canada is not exept or excluded from participation in the attrocities. So you and your fellow citizens barely have any room to be self-righteous. Canada, it's people and it's corporations certainly have no problem capitalizing abd profitting all over the world. You're certainly not allergic or against making fists full of dollars for yourselves.

5) Much like the American government, American military and American Corporations; Muslim/Islamic based governements, militaries, corporations and militants have been and continue to be completely out of control in furthering their respective agendas...........through out the planet; for a very long time.

1 ) Yes it would be absurd, but i'm not talking for the whole world. Note that i'm answering a post that said "majority of americans think this way" by saying "majority of the world think this way", i also used the little "____" to add some kind of moderation to what i posted, but i've answered to something in the same way it was posted.

2) Sort of why i've choose to answer this particular post about a guy saying "majority of americans", anyway i agree.

3) I don't care at all about the past issue and frontier and what is a territory and what is a country and whatever you can say about the past. RIGHT NOW, the state of Isreal is participating in criminal war act into the Lebanon and Palestinian territory/country. I don't care who's jew and who's muslim, i'm only condemning the acts of a Government. Religions matters are a problem in itself and i agree with you for that matter, but right now, it's not what i'm talking about.

I'll jump over the "YOU" "people like you" "sheep" thing. I understand all that, i'm not for terrorist actions at all and what the Hezzbolah did is a provocation, but if you don't believe that the response is exagerated, then i see why you call me all those thing, i don't care really, i've never defended the terrorist action, it's not because i'm condemning Isreal actions that i automaticly approve the Hezbolah or Hamas, that's where i see the misconception coming from, but i'd like you to show me a thread where i defend terrorist, good luck. Condemning terrorism won't change anything, condemning govt. is what we should all do, they're the one who can take actions to settle these conflicts.

4) I won't defend Canada believe me you won't find a Canadian more critical about Canada than me on this board. It's just that the Prime Minister of Canada have a lot less power than the President of the USA, any declaration that he'll make is even marginalized in Canada, so i imagine that his statement is not really having any consequence in the "world opinion", while W. is huge, i mean any USA Presidents is huge, so he should be a lot more careful when declaring that the act in Lebanon are justified, they're killing civillians with millitary actions there, it's a clear violation of any treaty you want to evoke on here.

5) Sure, they're pushing their agendas too, but it doesn't excuse Isreal act in Lebanon and Palestine, not at all. Terrorist are terrorist, right now Isreal are acting like a terrorist state against terrorist organisation, it's easy to blame terrorist group but there's no way that we can end terrorism with more military action, we're just creating more, and that's EXACTLY what Isreal are doing right now by bombing Lebanon, they are bombing Lebanon, not just a terrorist group, the world sponsored Isreal military are bombing Lebanon and Lebanese therefore creating more terrorist and terrorism.

Flannel Shirt wrote:

any suggestions? lol.. I am all ears

really? Ralph Nader gave an interview on Telé-Québec that i just watch, this man would be great, so it was my suggestion, since you really want one, but i'm not really qualified in future Presidential candidate, but when a good one present himself, at least vote for him. This two party thing is also hurting your democracy a lot, in my opinion, but off topic...

NMyTree wrote:

Actually, the USA has been asked many times to get involved in other's affairs.

Sure it happens, in the end let's face it, the USA do pretty much what they want, but yes they've been asked to help, and i also recognize USA citizen help when it comes to giving money to charitable org.

NMyTree wrote:

That's true to a great extent. But not always true in every case and situation

Not every case, agree.

NMyTree wrote:

He wasn't elected. He was placed in the position.

But yeah, Americans need to smell the coffee and wake the fuck up. We need to take our country back and take back our rights. Way too many sheep in this country.

It would also be nice if Canada grew a spine.

Sure about Canada, about the USA President well in the end, he's the one who's the President, even if you don't like it .

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Please degine ow we should grow a spine...I thoguht we had one when our PM (Jean Cretian) said no to helping the States in Iraq.....

Well, if you Canadiens are so against what America does, what are you doing in the middle of this?

Canadiens often speak as if their goverment, corporations and citizens are better than America's and place themselves above it all. If you all truely believe that, then stop running your businesses in a capitalistic manner and getting involved in "American-type" things".

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Hey thankyou...did you see the Nader speech he did at Laval a few years ago..the man is brilliant too bad mainstream media in the States label his as a fool which of course for many...TV dicates "truth"...would not even listen to this guy...would make a great leader....IMHO....

I was listening to the interview and was thinking "this man would be a great PM in Canada", he'd be so popular he could win majority until his retirement. There was also a great interview with Al Gore on Radio Canada just recently, the man is really into environment and seem to love Québec (most progressive in North America, he said) ... and he also love Canada, but was critical of S. Harper...

I remember that speech in Laval but it was an invite only elite international school thing. The interview i'm talking about was done shortly after that visit.

thankyougrandma, I wasn't defending Israel. In fact in my first response to shiraz, I made myself perfectly clear where I stand on it.

Much like someone else said just a few posts ago, I'm fed up and sick to my stomach with all this Middle East fighting crap. Sick of it, I tell you.

Sometimes I think I'd like to take all of them (in the Middle East) and our spectacular current administration, fly them off to a distant moon and drop all of them there, so they can carry on their neverending feud. At least they'd be killing themselves, instead of killing so many innocent men, wome and children.

NMyTree wrote:

thankyougrandma, I wasn't defending Israel. In fact in my first response to shiraz, I made myself perfectly clear where I stand on it.

Much like someone else said just a few posts ago, I'm fed up and sick to my stomach with all this Middle East fighting crap. Sick of it, I tell you.

Sometimes I think I'd like to take all of them (in the Middle East) and our spectacular current administration, fly them off to a distant moon and drop all of them there, so they can carry on their neverending feud. At least they'd be killing themselves, instead of killing so many innocent men, wome and children.

It would take a huge spaceship to send them all , damn i'm also fed up about all this, i watch the news and i'm getting so pissed off i need to shut the tv off. But i can't make myself to avoid these things, even on vacation i think about it (i might have a problem hehe), even if i'm trying to stay calm and moderate, sometimes the anger is just getting over. Anger is not hate btw, if i'm angry at someone it doesn't mean i hate him. So anyway, i'm glad we can understand each others point.

angelica wrote:

Okay, I take back the nice things I've said to you, today.

I do agree that when we Canadians are talking down to you all, though, we've crossed the arrogance line. To look around Canada, it's not like we have any right to judge anyone else.....We have some strengths, but we most definitely have our weaknesses like all humans!

Are you sure you're not an american? cuz you sure dont sound canadian!