Gunman opens fire at US college

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  • I just posted a thread concerning this, and no I will not source it because that website will be shut down within days if I do. Look around, do some research, find it on your own. The information is there if you care enough to look.

    Sounds like a reliable source...
  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Sounds like a reliable source...
    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to
    1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves,
    were rounded up and exterminated.
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
    million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    exterminated.
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
    total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves
    were rounded up and exterminated.
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million
    political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
    and exterminated.
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981,
    100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend them selves , were rounded
    up and exterminated.
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979,
    300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    exterminated.
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one
    million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
    and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
    because of gun control: 56 million.
    It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were
    forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed
    by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more
    than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

    List of 7 items:
    Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

    Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

    Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
    percent)!

    In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up
    300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in,
    the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

    While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease
    in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward
    in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their
    prey is unarmed.

    There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults
    of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how
    public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense
    was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The
    Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

    You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
    disseminating this information.

    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and,
    yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind
    them of this history lesson.

    With guns, we are 'citizens'.
    Without them, we are 'subjects'.

    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
    they knew most Americans were ARMED!

    If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control
    message to all of your friends.
    That might help.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    I just posted a thread concerning this, and no I will not source it because that website will be shut down within days if I do. Look around, do some research, find it on your own. The information is there if you care enough to look.
    Lord beer me strength....
    to not fight with people on a message board when they say ridiculous things. C'mon 'I'm still here', i lived in Australia for 24 years, show me a reputable link where you found the information stating that in Australia, crime has increased by 200% and ALL guns are banned. Show me.
  • Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Lord beer me strength....
    to not fight with people on a message board when they say ridiculous things. C'mon 'I'm still here', i lived in Australia for 24 years, show me a reputable link where you found the information stating that in Australia, crime has increased by 200% and ALL guns are banned. Show me.

    beer you strength, hahahahahaha
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Lord beer me strength....
    to not fight with people on a message board when they say ridiculous things. C'mon 'I'm still here', i lived in Australia for 24 years, show me a reputable link where you found the information stating that in Australia, crime has increased by 200% and ALL guns are banned. Show me.
    http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/aus.html
    more
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
    http://www.nrawinningteam.com/auresult.html
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    if the Teachers were armed do you think this would have happened the way it did?


    what if the teacher snaps and does this... thats the thing... you never know...


    so you want to arm teachers? or have every american jackass that cant even operate their dvd remote to have a fucking gun on their hip

    pure genius
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Nevermind wrote:
    That might help.


    so you quote some bs email this dude copy and pasted... with zero references or sources... and that might help?






    and by the way... a part of that email is the funniest thing i may have ever read...

    "During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
    they knew most Americans were ARMED!""


    what a crock of shit... if you guys believe that shit i dont know what to tell you
  • PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    my2hands wrote:
    so you quote some bs email this dude copy and pasted... with zero references or sources... and that might help?






    and by the way... a part of that email is the funniest thing i may have ever read...

    "During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
    they knew most Americans were ARMED!""


    what a crock of shit... if you guys believe that shit i dont know what to tell you
    Of course, no one has ever even thought about invading the U.S.
  • Nevermind wrote:
    Of course, no one has ever even thought about invading the U.S.

    I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm just trying to put the truth out there.
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm just trying to put the truth out there.
    I was being sarcastic. Ive met people who talk about overtaking some shit.
  • my2hands wrote:
    what if the teacher snaps and does this... thats the thing... you never know...


    so you want to arm teachers? or have every american jackass that cant even operate their dvd remote to have a fucking gun on their hip

    pure genius

    with guns we are citizens

    without guns we are slaves

    why do you think we have the second amendment?

    (right to bear arms, just in case you don't know)
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    I know that one firearm related death is one too many, but Australia does not have huge numbers.

    The ACTUAL homicide numbers are
    1996 - 104
    1997 - 79
    1998 - 57
    1999 - 50
    2000 - 57
    2001 - 47
    2002 - 45

    http://www.nisu.flinders.edu.au/briefs/firearm_deaths_2005.pdf

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/02/1072908906612.html
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    NewJPage wrote:
    thanks much. its good to have the pj community, and especially the music, at shitty times such as this. music can be a good healer...
    music can be a good healer, that's for sure. i'm sorry for your pain. take care of yourself buddy.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Songburst wrote:
    I don't think that he was making light of anything.
    No, but he said "so what".. end of story. Something bad happens, how to you respond to sombody saying "so what" to people who are mourning..
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    with guns we are citizens

    without guns we are slaves

    why do you think we have the second amendment?

    (right to bear arms, just in case you don't know)


    i dont have a gun... will never have a gun... and i am not a slave


    my brain and voice are much better "weapons" then your guns
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Nevermind wrote:
    Of course, no one has ever even thought about invading the U.S.


    actually, since the war of independance i dont think anyone has ever considered invading the USA... we are bordered by mexico and canada, and the 2 largets bodies of water in the world... what the hell are they teaching you guys in school? americans are alwaysa afraid of the boogey man... :just in case"... fucking idiots and pussies


    PLEASE tell me who wanted to invade us :rolleyes:
  • my2hands wrote:
    actually, since the war of independance i dont think anyone has ever considered invading the USA... we are bordered by mexico and canada, and the 2 largets bodies of water in the world... what the hell are they teaching you guys in school? americans are alwaysa afraid of the boogey man... :just in case"... fucking idiots and pussies


    PLEASE tell me who wanted to invade us :rolleyes:

    I learned the hard way you can't just go around calling people fucking idiots on this forum

    bad move......
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    It would be impossible to prove. Doesnt mean it hasnt been thought about. Go Hillary/Obama '08.