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    Nevermind wrote:
    Homicide and firearms crime
    In 2005/06 there were 766 offences initially recorded as homicide by the police in England and Wales (including the 52 victims of the 7 July 2005 London bombings),[17] a rate of 1.4 per 100,000 of population. Only 50 (6.6%) were committed with firearms, one being with an air weapon.[18] The homicide rate for London was 2.4 per 100,000 in the same year (1.7 when excluding the 7 July bombings).[19]

    50 gun deaths per year out of a country with 65 million people in it..

    by comparison the US has some 35000 with a population of some 300million.

    so allowing for having 5 times the population you should have around 250 gun deaths per year... but wait... here's the fucking hilarious part!!! you guys have 35000!!!!! not 250??!?!

    how about that.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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    dunkman wrote:
    you've heard a lot of absolute shit then.. you heard about 1 cop (not cops plural) who shot 1 person (not people) who he believed to be a suicide bomber boarding a subway train only a few weeks after a suicide bombing attempt... stop diverting the attention away from the fact that in the US there has been 4 school shootings in the past 7 days.. you pointing out that the 'cops' (police dont carry guns here, only specially trained firearms officers who are called to an incident) killing 'innocent people' (sic) in England from August 06 only highlights the ignorance of the people of America when it comes to both the world around them and their own societal problems.
    Why was your country running drills on 7/7 involving situations where terrorists had bombs underground?

    Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client.

    The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring:

    POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050808&articleId=821



    HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

    POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
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    dunkman wrote:
    50 gun deaths per year out of a country with 65 million people in it..

    by comparison the US has some 35000 with a population of some 300million.

    so allowing for having 5 times the population you should have around 250 gun deaths per year... but wait... here's the fucking hilarious part!!! you guys have 35000!!!!! not 250??!?!

    how about that.
    Oh, im sorry. I thought we were discussing England. Thanks for going off topic.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7bAC8gN-bU
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Why was your country running drills on 7/7 involving situations where terrorists had bombs underground?

    Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client.

    The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring:

    POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050808&articleId=821



    HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

    POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.


    don't care and it needs its own thread.. this is about gun deaths and gun control... what some conspiracy theorist gets up to in his own time i couldnt give a gorillas cock about.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 1,006
    dunkman wrote:
    don't care and it needs its own thread.. this is about gun deaths and gun control... what some conspiracy theorist gets up to in his own time i couldnt give a gorillas cock about.
    Of course, ignorance is bliss.
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Of course, ignorance is bliss.

    you've ignored every pertinent and legitimate stat i've posted.. why should i even entertain the 7/7 bombings question?


    50 gun deaths per year out of a country with 65 million people in it..

    by comparison the US has some 35000 with a population of some 300million.

    so allowing for having 5 times the population you should have around 250 gun deaths per year... but wait... here's the fucking hilarious part!!! you guys have 35000!!!!! not 250??!?!

    how about that.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Oh, im sorry. I thought we were discussing England. Thanks for going off topic.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7bAC8gN-bU


    huh?

    you posted about cops shooting innocent people.. how is this even relevant to the actual thread?

    :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 1,006
    Im not saying Amerika doesnt suck. I posted statistics on gun crime in England. Waste my time ill waste yours.
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Im not saying Amerika doesnt suck. I posted statistics on gun crime in England. Then you turned it around on the U.S. Attack my country ill attack yours. Waste my time ill waste yours.

    no you didnt!

    and now i will re-quote you.
    Nevermind wrote:
    England is a police state. Why do they need more than one camera on every building?
    Nevermind wrote:
    Havent heard of any. But I havent looked into it either. Ive heard a lot about cops shooting innocent people in England.



    3rd post in you eventually post stats which magically highlight the vast difference between gun relate deaths in the US and in England.. thanks for that :)
    Nevermind wrote:
    Homicide and firearms crime
    In 2005/06 there were 766 offences initially recorded as homicide by the police in England and Wales (including the 52 victims of the 7 July 2005 London bombings),[17] a rate of 1.4 per 100,000 of population. Only 50 (6.6%) were committed with firearms, one being with an air weapon.[18] The homicide rate for London was 2.4 per 100,000 in the same year (1.7 when excluding the 7 July bombings).[19]

    By comparison, 5.5 murders per 100,000 of population were reported by police in the United States in 2000, of which 70% involved the use of firearms.[20] New York City, with a population size similar to London (over 8 million residents), reported 6.9 murders per 100,000 people in 2004.[21]

    The rise in UK gun crime is a long term trend that is apparently unaffected by the state of UK firearms legislation. [22] Before the 1997 ban, handguns were only held by 0.1% of the population,[23] and while the number of crimes involving firearms in England and Wales increased from 13,874 in 1998/99 to 24,070 in 2002/03, they remained relatively static at 24,094 in 2003/04, and have since fallen to 21,521 in 2005/06. The latter includes 3,275 crimes involving imitation firearms and 10,437 involving air weapons, compared to 566 and 8,665 respectively in 1998/99.[24] Only those "firearms" positively identified as being imitations or air weapons (e.g. by being recovered by the police or by being fired) are classed as such, so the actual numbers are likely to be significantly higher. In 2005/06, 8,978 of the total of 21,521 firearms crimes (42%) were for criminal damage.[25]

    Since 1998, the number of people injured by firearms in England and Wales increased by 110%,[26] from 2,378 in 1998/99 to 5,001 in 2005/06. "Injury" in this context means by the use of the gun as a blunt instrument or as a threat, or by being shot. In 2005/06, 87% of such injuries were defined as "slight," which includes the use of firearms as a threat only. The number of homicides committed with firearms has remained between a range of 46 and 97 for the past decade, standing at 50 in 2005/06 (a fall from 75 the previous year). Between 1998/99 and 2005/06, there have been only two fatal shootings of police officers in England and Wales. Over the same period there were 107 non-fatal shootings of police officers - an average of just 9.7 per year.[27]


    then completely irrelevant to the actual topic:-
    Nevermind wrote:
    Why was your country running drills on 7/7 involving situations where terrorists had bombs underground?

    Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client.

    The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring:

    POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050808&articleId=821



    HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

    POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.


    then some comedy:-
    Nevermind wrote:
    Oh, im sorry. I thought we were discussing England. Thanks for going off topic.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7bAC8gN-bU



    Nevermind wrote:
    Im not saying Amerika doesnt suck. I posted statistics on gun crime in England. Then you turned it around on the U.S. Attack my country ill attack yours. Waste my time ill waste yours.


    i dont live in England.. and i'll attack whomever i see fit.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 1,006
    dunkman wrote:
    no you didnt!

    and now i will re-quote you.







    3rd post in you eventually post stats which magically highlight the vast difference between gun relate deaths in the US and in England.. thanks for that :)



    then completely irrelevant to the actual topic:-



    then some comedy:-








    i dont live in England.. and i'll attack whomever i see fit.
    Be careful. Wouldnt want to get yourself banned again.
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Be careful. Wouldnt want to get yourself banned again.

    be careful of what? go on tell me... i stand by what i said.. so go on and ignore all my points and tell me why i can get banned for making your argument look weaker than an anorexic shot-putter

    :rolleyes: :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Be careful. Wouldnt want to get yourself banned again.

    c'mon man... banned for what?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Be careful. Wouldnt want to get yourself banned again.

    still awaiting your reason for this post.. nah.. i knew they'd be no answer
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 1,006
    Dont see where your going with this. The only thing you seem to do is attack Amerika. You havent contributed anything except negativity.
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Dont see where your going with this. The only thing you seem to do is attack Amerika. You havent contributed anything except negativity.

    are you blind? you said "Be careful. Wouldnt want to get yourself banned again." and i asked you why this would be the case? a question you have ignored for 4 repetitive posts... and youcant see where i'm going? how so... its quite apparent.. :confused: is someone pretending to be smart :D

    i'll attack Scotland if you want.. i can see its faults.. i lack ignorance in this matter... i'll attack whomever i see fit means i will 'attack' america, canade, france, germany, england, etc.. all of which have problems.. at least some of us recognise them.

    i have contributed negativity? i have made exceptionally fantastic posts as to why america has a problem with guns.. my negative posts are outweighed by the negative stats of the amount of americans killing each other daily with a gun.

    go sleep with your gun tonight, go fear someone creeping into your house and so you need that gun.. go fear your own democratic govt so much that uou need to keep a gun... i live in a country where i dont have that fear... i like that :) i love that my kids will go to school and wont have to wear bullet-proof vests and that their Professors wont be ex-miltary gun carrying tutors.

    i love that... i love our freedom.. i love we are greater than america.. it helps me sleep more safely at night
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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    dunkman wrote:
    i'll attack Scotland if you want.. i can see its faults.. i lack ignorance in this matter... i'll attack whomever i see fit means i will 'attack' america, canade, france, germany, england, etc.. all of which have problems.. at least some of us recognise them.

    i have contributed negativity? i have made exceptionally fantastic posts as to why america has a problem with guns.. my negative posts are outweighed by the negative stats of the amount of americans killing each other daily with a gun.

    go sleep with your gun tonight, go fear someone creeping into your house and so you need that gun.. go fear your own democratic govt so much that uou need to keep a gun... i live in a country where i dont have that fear... i like that :) i love that my kids will go to school and wont have to wear bullet-proof vests and that their Professors wont be ex-miltary gun carrying tutors.

    i love that... i love our freedom.. i love we are greater than america.. it helps me sleep more safely at night
    I dont own a gun. What makes you think im afraid of the government?
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    I dont own a gun. What makes you think im afraid of the government?

    i address all of your points.. you only post one sentence replies to a singled out point of mine.

    i'm done with you :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 1,006
    dunkman wrote:
    i address all of your points.. you only post one sentence replies to a singled out point of mine.

    i'm done with you :)
    Your points? Are your points that Scotland is better? If so thats not a point thats an opinion. This shit was done a page ago. I wouldnt have come back to this thread if you hadnt kept running your mouth. You can keep doing it I wont be back in this thread. Cause I dont give a gorillas cock.
  • Posts: 19,646
    Nevermind wrote:
    Your points? Are your points that Scotland is better? If so thats not a point thats an opinion. This shit was done a page ago. I wouldnt have come back to this thread if you hadnt kept running your mouth. You can keep doing it I wont be back in this thread.


    scotland has less gun deaths per capita than america... its better :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Posts: 1,006
    dunkman wrote:
    scotland has less gun deaths per capita than america... its better :)
    Thats an opinion. We went to the moon. Were better. I could do this all day.

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