The Feminization of America

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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Dont forget to call your co-worker a "fag" if he watches american idol.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    miller8966 wrote:
    Dont forget to call your co-worker a "fag" if he watches american idol.

    huh? nobody would get hired in company that watched american idol. we have screening process. see, you bring it weak my friend. we dont hire blacks, jews, women, or faggots. only white protestant male americans.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    soulsinging wrote:
    huh? nobody would get hired in company that watched american idol. we have screening process. see, you bring it weak my friend. we dont hire blacks, jews, women, or faggots. only white protestant male americans.

    I see you decided to bring out the racism card today...cause masculinity has alot to do with racism.
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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    miller8966 wrote:
    I see you decided to bring out the racism card today...cause masculinity has alot to do with racism.

    He was clearly playing on your overall primitive, outdated viewpoints of society. Your view of masculinity being one of them.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    DOSW wrote:
    miller8966 wrote:
    I see you decided to bring out the racism card today...cause masculinity has alot to do with racism
    He was clearly playing on your overall primitive, outdated viewpoints of society. Your view of masculinity being one of them.
    And besides that, bigotry is bigotry, no matter which "ism" you dress it up in. (ie: racism/sexism, etc.)

    I wonder who in this thread relates to the role of bigot.
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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    DOSW wrote:
    He was clearly playing on your overall primitive, outdated viewpoints of society. Your view of masculinity being one of them.

    I know.

    Im clearly playing on the fact that most of you on this forum are card carrying hippies.
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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    angelica wrote:
    And besides that, bigotry is bigotry, no matter which "ism" you dress it up in. (ie: racism/sexism, etc.)

    I wonder who in this thread relates to the role of bigot.

    is feminism bigotry?
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    miller8966 wrote:
    is feminism bigotry?
    I'm referring to intolerance, narrow-mindedness and prejudice. When feminism fits such criteria, yes it becomes bigoted. For the record, I have never considered myself feminist because of the backwards actions done in the name of feminism when supposedly furthering women's rights. Granted, the actual purposes of feminism aren't to be confused with the personal errors people have been known to attach to feminism. When the pure ideal appears clouded, it does not take away from the validity of the ideal. But I definitely hear your point, miller.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    miller8966 wrote:
    I know.

    Im clearly playing on the fact that most of you on this forum are card carrying hippies.


    There are cards?!?! Can we get free pot if we have one?:) miller I think you'd be shocked at how few of "us" are anything but hippies. Now go back to 1952 and say hi to Ike.
  • tara
    tara Posts: 293
    miller8966 wrote:
    I know.

    Im clearly playing on the fact that most of you on this forum are card carrying hippies.

    i prefer to be called a treehugger, "hippie" is just so non-descript
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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    angelica wrote:
    I'm referring to intolerance, narrow-mindedness and prejudice. When feminism fits such criteria, yes it becomes bigoted. For the record, I have never considered myself feminist because of the backwards actions done in the name of feminism when supposedly furthering women's rights. Granted, the actual purposes of feminism aren't to be confused with the personal errors people have been known to attach to feminism. When the pure ideal appears clouded, it does not take away from the validity of the ideal. But I definitely hear your point, miller.

    I agree. You also make valid points.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Why is it that people are forcing American boys to be so sensitive. So "understanding." So...feminine.

    What's wrong with men being men? I notice that boys are given ADD medicine if they start acting up in class, and then they become little asexual zombies. Boys are doing worse in school because of it.

    Boys should be encouraged, within limits, to be honest about their masculinity. They shouldn't be medicated to the point of lunacy. They should be encouraged to fall within a male role, as opposed to a female role.

    I see this being translated into all aspects of American life. Even the war in Iraq. Americans get disgusted by 3,000 dead soldiers. That's no small number, but past wars have been significantly higher! We need to assess wars on their principles and not troop death counts. Worrying about troop deaths is inconsequential if the cause is just. If the cause is unjust, troops deaths are just as inconsequential. They are doing what they signed up to do either way, and we elect presidents to make decisions.

    look at the up side whore. women are in the workforce and the men stay home and play. feminism has brought new freedom for men. a woman is more likely to get hired and the men stay home; tidy the house; and basically have the time they always wanted. don't mess up a good thing. shut your mouth and enjoy.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,827
    miller8966 wrote:
    I know.

    Im clearly playing on the fact that most of you on this forum are card carrying hippies.

    Miller, you do a great S Colbert act!
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Miller, you do a great S Colbert act!

    If it were only an act.;)
  • tara
    tara Posts: 293
    chiefojibwa wrote:
    dude, not me. like, i was out of papers and shit, and i had to use my official "hippie card" to, like, roll a big bomber and shit.

    lmao :D
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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    RainDog wrote:
    CorporateWhore, you need to stop over compensating. Yes, we all know you could lay naked on your stomach in an open field and your balls still wouldn't touch the ground - but that's O.K. Once you become comfortable in your inadequacies, the world becomes a brighter and happier place.

    Live, CorporateWhore! LIVE!!

    Are you saying that you have droopy balls? ;)
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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Hey, I'm not surprised I'm getting so much flak for this is in a Pearl Jam message board.

    Nonetheless, over-generalizations are silly. Though, men do generally gravitate toward certain behavior (some don't, admittedly). I'm just saying that we shouldn't put men down all the time when they act like men. Boys should not be discouraged from exhibiting certain masculine behavior. When a boy acts out in class or gets in a fight at school, you discipline him. You don't put him on drugs. He needs a father to discipline him sufficiently. Fathers should be given the opportunity to run their families as they see fit, with the natural and equal influence of mothers in their respective roles. Men and women are different and are good at different things.

    Case in point: Everybody Loves Raymond, The Simpsons, Family Guy, and most family sitcoms. The dad is a goddamn barbarian numbskull who needs his wife to direct everything in his life or else he will live in a barn. He always has to say "I'm sorry." For what? Being what he was born to be?

    I think, if society is guilty of anything, it's failing to be "understanding" of the male role. Everyone is expected to be understanding of women, but women are not forced to understand the male role because he is the barbarian and cannot be understood.

    I will leave you with a quote from Sigmund Freud: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Nonetheless, over-generalizations are silly.
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Men and women are different and are good at different things.

    lol
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Saturnal wrote:
    lol

    lol?

    So men and women are not different? They're not good at different things?

    This attempt to create a gender-blind society is hilarious. At least say what you believe instead of telling other people they're wrong.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    lol?

    So men and women are not different? They're not good at different things?

    This attempt to create a gender-blind society is hilarious. At least say what you believe instead of telling other people they're wrong.

    It was just funny because you think generalizations are silly, yet you are making generalizations about the roles of fathers and mothers in families. All families are different as far as who is the discipline parent, who is the consoling parent, who is the parent who acts more like a friend, etc. There are no assigned roles for men or women except in the process of conception and birth. After that, it's all about who can do what best. Some fathers cannot discipline their kids or be the dominant figure in the family to save their lives....and some mothers cannot be emotional cushions for their kids to save their lives.

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