CorporateWhore, you need to stop over compensating. Yes, we all know you could lay naked on your stomach in an open field and your balls still wouldn't touch the ground - but that's O.K. Once you become comfortable in your inadequacies, the world becomes a brighter and happier place.
know what i miss? the good old days of REAL men. when the real men didnt do manual labor, they paid a poor, stupid son of a bitch to be their grease monkey and drive their car for them... preferably a negro. then they'd don their attire and go to work and they could fondle their secretary like a real man without having to do pussy thing like worry about how she felt about it, how his wife would feel about it, or whether he'd be subject to a lawsuit (the NERVE of some women... dont they realize their place?). then they'd go home and drink brandy and smoke cigars, humiliate the help, give their sons money to pay for the abortion quietly, and keep the daughter locked up so she doesn't go slutty. man, those were the good old days. things were so much better when men dominated everything. id give anything to be able to smack my bitch up if she got fresh with me like nature intended.
know what i miss? the good old days of REAL men. when the real men didnt do manual labor, they paid a poor, stupid son of a bitch to be their grease monkey and drive their car for them... preferably a negro. then they'd don their attire and go to work and they could fondle their secretary like a real man without having to do pussy thing like worry about how she felt about it, how his wife would feel about it, or whether he'd be subject to a lawsuit (the NERVE of some women... dont they realize their place?). then they'd go home and drink brandy and smoke cigars, humiliate the help, give their sons money to pay for the abortion quietly, and keep the daughter locked up so she doesn't go slutty. man, those were the good old days. things were so much better when men dominated everything. id give anything to be able to smack my bitch up if she got fresh with me like nature intended.
Ah, yes. Things were much simpler back in the day when we of the female persuasion knew our place. Darnit, with all the choice, uncertaintly and the willy-nilly nature of our crazed hormones these days, it's not a wonder we're in need of a good once-over of the controlling nature now and again.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
know what i miss? the good old days of REAL men. when the real men didnt do manual labor, they paid a poor, stupid son of a bitch to be their grease monkey and drive their car for them... preferably a negro. then they'd don their attire and go to work and they could fondle their secretary like a real man without having to do pussy thing like worry about how she felt about it, how his wife would feel about it, or whether he'd be subject to a lawsuit (the NERVE of some women... dont they realize their place?). then they'd go home and drink brandy and smoke cigars, humiliate the help, give their sons money to pay for the abortion quietly, and keep the daughter locked up so she doesn't go slutty. man, those were the good old days. things were so much better when men dominated everything. id give anything to be able to smack my bitch up if she got fresh with me like nature intended.
damn straight. these wanna-be real men with their love of manual labor... i scoff at them. labor is for poor people. or women around the house. REAL men don't sweat, we make others sweat on our behalf. these tools like corporatewhore and miller are amateurs.
angelica... you give me hope. im delighted to learn some women still yearn to have a man who will teach them how to be happy in their subordinate and inferior role in society.
angelica... you give me hope. im delighted to learn some women still yearn to have a man who will teach them how to be happy in their subordinate and inferior role in society.
And you, too, provide me with hope, soulsinging. Just to know that there are potent, powerful men out there who are able to rise above the mundane to the more "managerial" levels of life, with all that entails. Why it sets me atingle, imagining that there are those out there who might have what it takes to keep the likes of me in line, and to know that they'd have clean fingernails, if not conscience, while doing so!
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
And you, too, provide me with hope, soulsinging. Just to know that there are potent, powerful men out there who are able to rise above the mundane to the more "managerial" levels of life, with all that entails. Why it sets me atingle, imagining that there are those out there who might have what it takes to keep the likes of me in line, and to know that they'd have clean fingernails, if not conscience, while doing so!
Dont forget to call your co-worker a "fag" if he watches american idol.
huh? nobody would get hired in company that watched american idol. we have screening process. see, you bring it weak my friend. we dont hire blacks, jews, women, or faggots. only white protestant male americans.
huh? nobody would get hired in company that watched american idol. we have screening process. see, you bring it weak my friend. we dont hire blacks, jews, women, or faggots. only white protestant male americans.
I see you decided to bring out the racism card today...cause masculinity has alot to do with racism.
I'm referring to intolerance, narrow-mindedness and prejudice. When feminism fits such criteria, yes it becomes bigoted. For the record, I have never considered myself feminist because of the backwards actions done in the name of feminism when supposedly furthering women's rights. Granted, the actual purposes of feminism aren't to be confused with the personal errors people have been known to attach to feminism. When the pure ideal appears clouded, it does not take away from the validity of the ideal. But I definitely hear your point, miller.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Im clearly playing on the fact that most of you on this forum are card carrying hippies.
There are cards?!?! Can we get free pot if we have one?:) miller I think you'd be shocked at how few of "us" are anything but hippies. Now go back to 1952 and say hi to Ike.
I'm referring to intolerance, narrow-mindedness and prejudice. When feminism fits such criteria, yes it becomes bigoted. For the record, I have never considered myself feminist because of the backwards actions done in the name of feminism when supposedly furthering women's rights. Granted, the actual purposes of feminism aren't to be confused with the personal errors people have been known to attach to feminism. When the pure ideal appears clouded, it does not take away from the validity of the ideal. But I definitely hear your point, miller.
Why is it that people are forcing American boys to be so sensitive. So "understanding." So...feminine.
What's wrong with men being men? I notice that boys are given ADD medicine if they start acting up in class, and then they become little asexual zombies. Boys are doing worse in school because of it.
Boys should be encouraged, within limits, to be honest about their masculinity. They shouldn't be medicated to the point of lunacy. They should be encouraged to fall within a male role, as opposed to a female role.
I see this being translated into all aspects of American life. Even the war in Iraq. Americans get disgusted by 3,000 dead soldiers. That's no small number, but past wars have been significantly higher! We need to assess wars on their principles and not troop death counts. Worrying about troop deaths is inconsequential if the cause is just. If the cause is unjust, troops deaths are just as inconsequential. They are doing what they signed up to do either way, and we elect presidents to make decisions.
look at the up side whore. women are in the workforce and the men stay home and play. feminism has brought new freedom for men. a woman is more likely to get hired and the men stay home; tidy the house; and basically have the time they always wanted. don't mess up a good thing. shut your mouth and enjoy.
CorporateWhore, you need to stop over compensating. Yes, we all know you could lay naked on your stomach in an open field and your balls still wouldn't touch the ground - but that's O.K. Once you become comfortable in your inadequacies, the world becomes a brighter and happier place.
Live, CorporateWhore! LIVE!!
Are you saying that you have droopy balls?
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Hey, I'm not surprised I'm getting so much flak for this is in a Pearl Jam message board.
Nonetheless, over-generalizations are silly. Though, men do generally gravitate toward certain behavior (some don't, admittedly). I'm just saying that we shouldn't put men down all the time when they act like men. Boys should not be discouraged from exhibiting certain masculine behavior. When a boy acts out in class or gets in a fight at school, you discipline him. You don't put him on drugs. He needs a father to discipline him sufficiently. Fathers should be given the opportunity to run their families as they see fit, with the natural and equal influence of mothers in their respective roles. Men and women are different and are good at different things.
Case in point: Everybody Loves Raymond, The Simpsons, Family Guy, and most family sitcoms. The dad is a goddamn barbarian numbskull who needs his wife to direct everything in his life or else he will live in a barn. He always has to say "I'm sorry." For what? Being what he was born to be?
I think, if society is guilty of anything, it's failing to be "understanding" of the male role. Everyone is expected to be understanding of women, but women are not forced to understand the male role because he is the barbarian and cannot be understood.
I will leave you with a quote from Sigmund Freud: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
So men and women are not different? They're not good at different things?
This attempt to create a gender-blind society is hilarious. At least say what you believe instead of telling other people they're wrong.
It was just funny because you think generalizations are silly, yet you are making generalizations about the roles of fathers and mothers in families. All families are different as far as who is the discipline parent, who is the consoling parent, who is the parent who acts more like a friend, etc. There are no assigned roles for men or women except in the process of conception and birth. After that, it's all about who can do what best. Some fathers cannot discipline their kids or be the dominant figure in the family to save their lives....and some mothers cannot be emotional cushions for their kids to save their lives.
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That's a cool article. It made me think of Al Bundy, in fact it clearly depicts him.
Al Bundy is a real man.
Dennis Leary just isn't funny - even when ripping off Bill Hicks he wasn't funny. :rolleyes:
Dennis leary is hilarious...bill hicks is good though
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See misogynists that's a real man.;)
damn straight. these wanna-be real men with their love of manual labor... i scoff at them. labor is for poor people. or women around the house. REAL men don't sweat, we make others sweat on our behalf. these tools like corporatewhore and miller are amateurs.
angelica... you give me hope. im delighted to learn some women still yearn to have a man who will teach them how to be happy in their subordinate and inferior role in society.
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Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
"sets me atingle"....
i nearly spit up my water reading that.
huh? nobody would get hired in company that watched american idol. we have screening process. see, you bring it weak my friend. we dont hire blacks, jews, women, or faggots. only white protestant male americans.
I see you decided to bring out the racism card today...cause masculinity has alot to do with racism.
He was clearly playing on your overall primitive, outdated viewpoints of society. Your view of masculinity being one of them.
I wonder who in this thread relates to the role of bigot.
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I know.
Im clearly playing on the fact that most of you on this forum are card carrying hippies.
is feminism bigotry?
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There are cards?!?! Can we get free pot if we have one?:) miller I think you'd be shocked at how few of "us" are anything but hippies. Now go back to 1952 and say hi to Ike.
i prefer to be called a treehugger, "hippie" is just so non-descript
Albert Einstein
I agree. You also make valid points.
look at the up side whore. women are in the workforce and the men stay home and play. feminism has brought new freedom for men. a woman is more likely to get hired and the men stay home; tidy the house; and basically have the time they always wanted. don't mess up a good thing. shut your mouth and enjoy.
Miller, you do a great S Colbert act!
If it were only an act.;)
lmao
Albert Einstein
Are you saying that you have droopy balls?
-Enoch Powell
Nonetheless, over-generalizations are silly. Though, men do generally gravitate toward certain behavior (some don't, admittedly). I'm just saying that we shouldn't put men down all the time when they act like men. Boys should not be discouraged from exhibiting certain masculine behavior. When a boy acts out in class or gets in a fight at school, you discipline him. You don't put him on drugs. He needs a father to discipline him sufficiently. Fathers should be given the opportunity to run their families as they see fit, with the natural and equal influence of mothers in their respective roles. Men and women are different and are good at different things.
Case in point: Everybody Loves Raymond, The Simpsons, Family Guy, and most family sitcoms. The dad is a goddamn barbarian numbskull who needs his wife to direct everything in his life or else he will live in a barn. He always has to say "I'm sorry." For what? Being what he was born to be?
I think, if society is guilty of anything, it's failing to be "understanding" of the male role. Everyone is expected to be understanding of women, but women are not forced to understand the male role because he is the barbarian and cannot be understood.
I will leave you with a quote from Sigmund Freud: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
-Enoch Powell
lol
lol?
So men and women are not different? They're not good at different things?
This attempt to create a gender-blind society is hilarious. At least say what you believe instead of telling other people they're wrong.
-Enoch Powell
It was just funny because you think generalizations are silly, yet you are making generalizations about the roles of fathers and mothers in families. All families are different as far as who is the discipline parent, who is the consoling parent, who is the parent who acts more like a friend, etc. There are no assigned roles for men or women except in the process of conception and birth. After that, it's all about who can do what best. Some fathers cannot discipline their kids or be the dominant figure in the family to save their lives....and some mothers cannot be emotional cushions for their kids to save their lives.