Out of wedlock births hit new high in US

know1
know1 Posts: 6,801
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/11/21/unmarried.births.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

I think this is pathetic. Are people really this self-centered? And please do not tell me that abortion is the good alternative, because that isn't working either.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    who gives a fuck if they are unmarried..? i work with a guy who's lived with his 'wife' for over 40 years... i found out 2 weeks ago they have never married!! they have 2 kids and are perfectly happy!

    what difference does it make if they are married or not?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    know1 wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/11/21/unmarried.births.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

    I think this is pathetic. Are people really this self-centered? And please do not tell me that abortion is the good alternative, because that isn't working either.
    can you clarify what's pathetic?
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    The Cleavers are dead. You don't have to like it but you may as well get used to it.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    " the teen birth rate actually dropped last year to the lowest level on record."

    Could this have anything to do with a rise in abortions??????

    I could care less if a baby is born out of wedlock....so long as the people who have the baby are responsible parents. It's not a marriage license that makes people good parents.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    On another note..it bothers me when CNN says "4 out of 10 babies are born to SINGLE MOMS"....

    That's bullshit...4 out of 10 babies are born to single MOMS & DADS!!!!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    Can anyone tell me what Know1 was talking about when they said it's pathetic? Seriously though, did I read the article too fast and miss something?
  • Staceb10
    Staceb10 Posts: 675
    cincybearcat wrote:
    On another note..it bothers me when CNN says "4 out of 10 babies are born to SINGLE MOMS"....

    That's bullshit...4 out of 10 babies are born to single MOMS & DADS!!!!


    Great point. When it comes to babies the men are never mentioned unless they are "deadbeat dads". I wonder how many men that are considered that didn't actually want to be fathers but the woman "chose" to make him one.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    "The overall rise reflects the burgeoning number of people who are putting off marriage or living together without getting married."

    Out of wedlock, doesn't mean out of a relationship! Having signed a bit of paper in front of someone, doesn't make your 'unit' any better than one that hasn't.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Can anyone tell me what Know1 was talking about when they said it's pathetic? Seriously though, did I read the article too fast and miss something?


    He's for people being married before bring children into the world...

    It is better for a child to have 2 loving parents growing up...I know marriage doesn't guarantee that and not being married doesn;t mean it's not true...but I think Know1 thinks that...I could be wrong.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • surfanddestroy
    surfanddestroy Posts: 2,786
    Seriously, who cares if they are married or not, what difference does that make?
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    cincybearcat wrote:
    He's for people being married before bring children into the world...

    It is better for a child to have 2 loving parents growing up...I know marriage doesn't guarantee that and not being married doesn;t mean it's not true...but I think Know1 thinks that...I could be wrong.


    Oh. thanks
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    The only thing that bothered me in the article was the large number of c-sections being done. It's clearly healthier on the mother and baby to deliver naturally than to choose major surgery. Other than that, I'm not bothered at all as to the number of births out-of-wedlock. Researchers don't have much else to do, it seems.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    cincybearcat wrote:
    On another note..it bothers me when CNN says "4 out of 10 babies are born to SINGLE MOMS"....

    That's bullshit...4 out of 10 babies are born to single MOMS & DADS!!!!

    it's not bullshit cos in most cases the "dad" skips town and leaves the mom high and dry and completely on her own.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I think it's pathetic because I think for the children's sake people should be in committed, lifelong relationships. I know that this statistic doesn't necessarily mean that the people having kids aren't in those types of relationships, but I'd say the chances are greater.

    I think not having 2 stable parents living in the same house as a family unit is what is doing a lot of harm to children in this country.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Can anyone tell me what Know1 was talking about when they said it's pathetic? Seriously though, did I read the article too fast and miss something?

    i won't use the word pathetic, but, i will say its very sad. It definitely shows a severe breakdown in the family. Its not a slag on single mothers to say that it is simply common sense to say that a child is far better off in life with a two loving parents, and that is best accomplished and served through a marital situation. Someone mentioned a couple of 40 years with 2 kids, but never officially married. Its very safe to say that that is by far the exception and certainly not the rule. Besides, that couple is, technically, married by common law.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    cincybearcat wrote:
    He's for people being married before bring children into the world...

    It is better for a child to have 2 loving parents growing up...I know marriage doesn't guarantee that and not being married doesn;t mean it's not true...but I think Know1 thinks that...I could be wrong.

    Yep. Thanks.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    soulsinging wrote:
    it's not bullshit cos in most cases the "dad" skips town and leaves the mom high and dry and completely on her own.
    That's so much bullshit. Stop pretending you're in class and you have to defend a ridiculous proposition.

    The only disgusting thing about this birth rate is the number of women who purposefully have children without a partner. That shows such narcisim it's outrageous.
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    redrock wrote:
    "The overall rise reflects the burgeoning number of people who are putting off marriage or living together without getting married."

    Out of wedlock, doesn't mean out of a relationship! Having signed a bit of paper in front of someone, doesn't make your 'unit' any better than one that hasn't.

    It does, however, demonstrate a level of commitment that doesn't NORMALLY exist within the context of a "shacking up" situation.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    soulsinging wrote:
    it's not bullshit cos in most cases the "dad" skips town and leaves the mom high and dry and completely on her own.


    Maybe if we stop calling them nly single moms then the crappy dads would start to actually think they have responsibility for their child.

    I think it's part of the problem...we have chosen to give the women 100% of the rights in regards to fetus and custody of babies in many cases...we have CHOSEN to take men out of the equation...

    No wonder so many jerks run away...

    Don;t think I'm excusing it, I just think we need to do a complete shift.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    know1 wrote:
    I think it's pathetic because I think for the children's sake people should be in committed, lifelong relationships. I know that this statistic doesn't necessarily mean that the people having kids aren't in those types of relationships, but I'd say the chances are greater.

    I think not having 2 stable parents living in the same house as a family unit is what is doing a lot of harm to children in this country.


    its even more pathetic that morally high and mighty people like yourself view these people as pathetic!!

    there are lots more problems in the world today that need looked at other than scurrilous viewpoints of people on here...

    do you know that these 4 in 10 people arent living in a perfectly stable relationship but maybe arent married?

    most marriages are probably more damaging to a kid these days anyway as when parents fight and argue then they do it front of the kids... its hard to argue with yourself in front of your kids... also most people in marriages probably try and make it "work" when it becomes dysfunctional...


    high and fucking mighty attitudes suck...


    p.s. what if the parents were of same sex, but were married? what would be your moralistic stand on that scenario!?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.

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