Out of wedlock births hit new high in US
know1
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/11/21/unmarried.births.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
I think this is pathetic. Are people really this self-centered? And please do not tell me that abortion is the good alternative, because that isn't working either.
I think this is pathetic. Are people really this self-centered? And please do not tell me that abortion is the good alternative, because that isn't working either.
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what difference does it make if they are married or not?
Could this have anything to do with a rise in abortions??????
I could care less if a baby is born out of wedlock....so long as the people who have the baby are responsible parents. It's not a marriage license that makes people good parents.
That's bullshit...4 out of 10 babies are born to single MOMS & DADS!!!!
Great point. When it comes to babies the men are never mentioned unless they are "deadbeat dads". I wonder how many men that are considered that didn't actually want to be fathers but the woman "chose" to make him one.
Out of wedlock, doesn't mean out of a relationship! Having signed a bit of paper in front of someone, doesn't make your 'unit' any better than one that hasn't.
He's for people being married before bring children into the world...
It is better for a child to have 2 loving parents growing up...I know marriage doesn't guarantee that and not being married doesn;t mean it's not true...but I think Know1 thinks that...I could be wrong.
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Oh. thanks
it's not bullshit cos in most cases the "dad" skips town and leaves the mom high and dry and completely on her own.
I think not having 2 stable parents living in the same house as a family unit is what is doing a lot of harm to children in this country.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i won't use the word pathetic, but, i will say its very sad. It definitely shows a severe breakdown in the family. Its not a slag on single mothers to say that it is simply common sense to say that a child is far better off in life with a two loving parents, and that is best accomplished and served through a marital situation. Someone mentioned a couple of 40 years with 2 kids, but never officially married. Its very safe to say that that is by far the exception and certainly not the rule. Besides, that couple is, technically, married by common law.
Yep. Thanks.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
The only disgusting thing about this birth rate is the number of women who purposefully have children without a partner. That shows such narcisim it's outrageous.
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It does, however, demonstrate a level of commitment that doesn't NORMALLY exist within the context of a "shacking up" situation.
Maybe if we stop calling them nly single moms then the crappy dads would start to actually think they have responsibility for their child.
I think it's part of the problem...we have chosen to give the women 100% of the rights in regards to fetus and custody of babies in many cases...we have CHOSEN to take men out of the equation...
No wonder so many jerks run away...
Don;t think I'm excusing it, I just think we need to do a complete shift.
its even more pathetic that morally high and mighty people like yourself view these people as pathetic!!
there are lots more problems in the world today that need looked at other than scurrilous viewpoints of people on here...
do you know that these 4 in 10 people arent living in a perfectly stable relationship but maybe arent married?
most marriages are probably more damaging to a kid these days anyway as when parents fight and argue then they do it front of the kids... its hard to argue with yourself in front of your kids... also most people in marriages probably try and make it "work" when it becomes dysfunctional...
high and fucking mighty attitudes suck...
p.s. what if the parents were of same sex, but were married? what would be your moralistic stand on that scenario!?
im ok with a complete shift, but the only shift i ever see your side talking about it sticking it to the mom even harder.
Maybe so, but in my brother's case it was exactly the opposite... He's raised his daughter for 8 years on his own. I have experience with this and I still think it's pathetic. I love him and respect him for the sacrifices he's made, but he CHOSE to make those sacrifices when he chose to have sex. And I still wish for the child's sake that she had the 2 stable, MARRIED parents.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Including your high and mighty attitude...
Most marriages are probably more damaging...you have to be kidding me!!! If you stop and think for a second you will see just how stupid that sounds...guess what? People that aren't married can have fights with their sig other or boyfriend/girlfriend of the year/month/week/day too!!!!!
i know you've had some hard knocks here and get emotional on this topic. i do the same when people say addicts are just weak. you got shafted and im sorry for that. but the fact is, by sheer staggering weight of numbers, men in america dont own up for their kids. ive been in jail. everyone was either in for drunkenness or not paying child support. the latter guys didnt seem to care, had the money, and simply didnt feel like they had any obligation to the kid.
turning your argument on its head... women cant have a kid without a partner. maybe the men should stop sticking their dicks in women if they dont want a child.
My side?
I'm am pro-sticking it to the mom even harder though.
Hello Mr. Pot.
As said, this particular data doesn't specifically imply they are not living together, but we all know there is plenty of data out there that shows that it's true.
I have a lot of firsthand experience on this topic and from that my opinion is that it is much better for the children to have two loving parents living in the same home as a family unit than otherwise. It's pathetic in my eyes because these people are letting their lust and failure to prepare get in the way of providing the best possible scenario for their children. In my eyes that's extremely selfish and uncaring and that's why I think it's pathetic.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
my high and mighty attitude is to let people live as they wish to live and dont fucking involve me church nonsense about being out of wedlock... fuck me.. is this colonnial Williamsburg.. are we going out witch-hunting later?
ok.. the marriage thing was meant more in sarcasm but i see it didnt work... i'm just saying that i know people who have been single parents and their kids are beautiful human beings... i also know people who have been in marriages that are shit and they argued all the time and their kids are little fuckers...
dont tar all people with the same brush basically... but one thing i'm not doing is saying that people who have children out of wedlock is pathetic!!! that statement is just moronic and downright archaic
You don't seem to be very open to letting me live thinking that this is pathetic.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Not necessarily... just have to look at divorce rates! What kind of level of commitment is it when you get married and then divorced 6 months, a year or two later? 'Shaking up' is not a commitment - that's just sharing the rent. Couples who have thought things through will have the same level of commitment, whether married or not... Speaking of being married... which ceremony is to be recognised? Not all marriage ceremonies (and therefore public commitments) are recognised.. so what do you do??
And from the point of view... a child born 'out of wedlock', for statistical purposes, is considered born to 'single' mothers, as you know who the mother is.... Obviously, this changes when the birth is registered and you have both parents names but by then, statistics have already counted the child!
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