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  • irishwpo wrote:
    When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.

    Am I alone here?

    Not sure if you're alone, but i'm not with ya.

    IMHO, the Foo Fighters have turned into a really generic and predictable mainstream rock band. Sure they're are notch above most other bands out there, Good Charlotte, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco and so on...But their last three albums have been totally forgettable. Not the kind of thing that people will be revisiting in 10 years time and saying “wow this band was really good.” Riot Act is probably Pearl Jam’s most maligned album, not in my eye’s but most fan’s eye’s, yet it has so much more substance than anything the Foo’s have done since their self titled.

    I guess they play the Grammy’s and do lots of press because they have become a part of the mainstream rock culture; it’s not really refreshing at all. It really isn’t anything new.

    I mean Dave is writing songs about Courtney Love now. They are just so predictable.

    Pearl jam eats them and spits them out, I’m sorry.
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  • irishwpo wrote:
    When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.

    Am I alone here?


    Go sell crazy some place else, we're all stocked up here.
  • quasi
    quasi Posts: 492
    I think Dave Grohl is an awesome guy. You can just tell he's a really good guy. I even met him backstage at JAMPAC in 1995 and he was super cool. I thought his first two albums were stellar. The last two have been so-so (I bought the latest and will probably trade it in for something new). In terms of their live show, I think they are okay but I find myself drifting off every time I see them. I always hope it'll be better the next tour. They always seem to play full bore loud the entire time (most of the time) and it just becomes too much and just kind of all blurs together. I have no desire really to see them again (I saw them in 1995, 2000, 2005 and 2007 and I think I'm done). I will always respect Dave Grohl though. But, I definitely never considered them in the same realm of PJ.
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  • quasi wrote:
    I think Dave Grohl is an awesome guy. You can just tell he's a really good guy. I even met him backstage at JAMPAC in 1995 and he was super cool. I thought his first two albums were stellar. The last two have been so-so (I bought the latest and will probably trade it in for something new). In terms of their live show, I think they are okay but I find myself drifting off every time I see them. I always hope it'll be better the next tour. They always seem to play full bore loud the entire time (most of the time) and it just becomes too much and just kind of all blurs together. I have no desire really to see them again (I saw them in 1995, 2000, 2005 and 2007 and I think I'm done). I will always respect Dave Grohl though. But, I definitely never considered them in the same realm of PJ.

    Ditto. And yeah, they are lacking in dynamics, for one.
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  • whoyouare72
    whoyouare72 Chicago IL Posts: 2,182
    irishwpo wrote:
    Am I alone here?
    IMO yes you are alone they are nowhere near the same league as PJ
  • I'm a fan of both bands and PJ wins hands down. Dave ignores the first album completly and that's their best work. I never even opened my copys of In Your Honer or Echos Silence Patience & Grace cuz it just seemed like generic crap. I never even bought Skin and Bones. I think Dave is really talented and wish they would go back to the sound of the first two records.

    FOO FACTS

    Dave Screams too much/ can't hit all the notes
    Enough with the fucking cheesey videos
    Pat Smear is back now?? 3 guitar players??
    Their show is and hour and a half and thats all your gonna get!!
    Let's see those 2013 dates in the southern states.
  • Maybe not the same league as Pearl Jam.

    But...

    1. I'm glad Grohl got out of Nirvana. Foo Fighters > Nirvana without a doubt.
    2. Who cares if he does mainstream events, etc.? What is this? 1991? Pearl Jam does all kinds of mainstream crap.
  • Just to clairfy: The first Foo album was solely written by Grohl. Skin & Bones is a live recording.

    Yeah, he screams pretty excessively, overtop of whole lines of lyrics.

    Another thing that's annoying is prior to the last couple of releases, he's declared to various media outlets, [not an actual quote, just paraphrasing from memory] "we're so thrilled about our new record. It's the biggest and best thing we've ever done. It's going to be remembered decades from now" kinda shit. He's not so humble anymore now that I think about it. I mean, it's cool to be proud of and pumped about your work and all, but yeah.
    Their show is and hour and a half and thats all your gonna get!!

    Yeah, it'd be nice to see them, at least once i a while, push themselves a little harder, I dunno.
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  • Zoso
    Zoso Posts: 6,425
    SilverSeed wrote:
    So based on your logic Pearl Jam sucked between 91-94, had no credibility, and the "jamily" at that point was no better than the teeny boppers of today. I'm not saying that PJ "whores themselves out" but to dismiss a band because of a)who likes them and b)their public visage is just ignorant.

    Edit: On a nicer note, when was Grohl offered the PJ drum spot? I thought that was only the product of crazy stoned/drunk "What combo would you like to see most?" convos.

    no pj didn't have that much cred before say 1995 (when they toured with neil young) that's true. But after that they built a career based on their fans, gutsy music that isn't going to be forgotten like the foo's will be. They released albums that were influenced by springsteen, young and the who.. When I heard the pretender I thought it was simple plan or something. I couldn't see the difference. The Foo Fighters wont ever be a pearl jam let alone a wilco, built to spil, mmj or radiohead. They can win all the grammys they like but they won't ever matter in music history like R.E.M. or springsteen.
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  • Zoso
    Zoso Posts: 6,425
    Just to clairfy: The first Foo album was solely written by Grohl. Skin & Bones is a live recording.

    Yeah, he screams pretty excessively, overtop of whole lines of lyrics.

    Another thing that's annoying is prior to the last couple of releases, he's declared to various media outlets, [not an actual quote, just paraphrasing from memory] "we're so thrilled about our new record. It's the biggest and best thing we've ever done. It's going to be remembered decades from now" kinda shit. He's not so humble anymore now that I think about it. I mean, it's cool to be proud of and pumped about your work and all, but yeah.



    Yeah, it'd be nice to see them, at least once i a while, push themselves a little harder, I dunno.

    grohl isn't humble at all. Jimmy Page and Keith Richards types are the only people who should be humble. Grohl needs to take a leaf out of ed's book.
    I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you

    Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl

    I love you forever and forever :)

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  • irishwpo wrote:
    When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.

    Am I alone here?

    to me it's a different style of Music

    I will give you this Grohl is red hot and still got many years as a Rockstar

    he's one of those guys who doesn't need a Band, like Ed, he could play with any 3 guys and it would kick ass

    their last CD is my favorite, but I love the two new Videos / Songs off this CD

    In my Opinion

    1) Pearl Jam
    2) STP
    3) Nirvana
    4) Ben Harper
    5) The Mighty Foo

    ps: still that's awesome company to be in
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  • Anon
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    irishwpo wrote:
    When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.

    Am I alone here?
    Hehe, well, i have not read the replies, but i doubt there would be too many here who agree with you :), but that's ok, i guess if posted on the Foo Fighters message board that PJ were better, they would all let me know how incorrect i was ;)
    I've always been a Fooies fan, and live they are awesome. I've met Taylor and Dave just briefly after a concert and they were unbelievably down to earth and more than happy to accomodate the fans with pictures and chats. It was so damn hot that night, yet they didn't care.

    While i do like the Foo fighters, I love Pearl Jam. That's about as simple as it gets for me.
  • Dave Grohls biggest failing was sticking his tongue right up Taylor Hawkins arse 10 years ago.

    He talks about him like he's the messiah! Don't think so Dave just a Stewart Copeland wannabe.
  • irishwpo wrote:
    When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.

    Am I alone here?

    yes.

    :p

    nah, I appreciate what you're saying and I do love the Foo's but nothing beats PJ for me. Good point made about their professionalism though :)
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    I think having 6 Grammys devalues a band's credibility.
    :p j/k.




    I don't own any Foo CDs but I have nothing bad to say about them.
    All their songs just sounds the same to me. They haven't won me over yet.
    But I'm not saying they're a bad band or anything, just not into them at all.
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  • irishwpo wrote:
    When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam.

    Am I alone here?

    My 2 favorite bands hands down. So no you are not alone here. Foo Fighters in concert, rock your ass!

    Pearl Jam has a lot more nostalgia and meaning to their music to me. They rock too but in an entirely different way.
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  • know1
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    I've listened to their last few albums more than I've listened to PJs. I put them a close second to PJ in concert.
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  • F'n_Circus wrote:
    at least the Foo's have a Seattle date on their calendar.


    And we have alot of time left in 2008 still. So just relax. :D


    Foo Fighters are a great band but not even close to PJ in my book.
  • The Foo Fighters play the south! I know someone has already mentioned this. The last time PJ toured the closest they were 2 me was 8 hrs. The Foo's are playing 1hr15mins from my house. And, they had no problems selling out the venue at University of Arkansas.
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