When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.
Am I alone here?
Not sure if you're alone, but i'm not with ya.
IMHO, the Foo Fighters have turned into a really generic and predictable mainstream rock band. Sure they're are notch above most other bands out there, Good Charlotte, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco and so on...But their last three albums have been totally forgettable. Not the kind of thing that people will be revisiting in 10 years time and saying “wow this band was really good.” Riot Act is probably Pearl Jam’s most maligned album, not in my eye’s but most fan’s eye’s, yet it has so much more substance than anything the Foo’s have done since their self titled.
I guess they play the Grammy’s and do lots of press because they have become a part of the mainstream rock culture; it’s not really refreshing at all. It really isn’t anything new.
I mean Dave is writing songs about Courtney Love now. They are just so predictable.
Pearl jam eats them and spits them out, I’m sorry.
When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.
Am I alone here?
Go sell crazy some place else, we're all stocked up here.
I think Dave Grohl is an awesome guy. You can just tell he's a really good guy. I even met him backstage at JAMPAC in 1995 and he was super cool. I thought his first two albums were stellar. The last two have been so-so (I bought the latest and will probably trade it in for something new). In terms of their live show, I think they are okay but I find myself drifting off every time I see them. I always hope it'll be better the next tour. They always seem to play full bore loud the entire time (most of the time) and it just becomes too much and just kind of all blurs together. I have no desire really to see them again (I saw them in 1995, 2000, 2005 and 2007 and I think I'm done). I will always respect Dave Grohl though. But, I definitely never considered them in the same realm of PJ.
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speaking of which, I always liked the line: "It's not true. Some have great stories, pretty stories that take place at lakes with boats and friends and noodle salad. Just no one in this car. But, a lot of people, that's their story. Good times, noodle salad. What makes it so hard is not that you had it bad, but that you're that pissed that so many others had it good."
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I think Dave Grohl is an awesome guy. You can just tell he's a really good guy. I even met him backstage at JAMPAC in 1995 and he was super cool. I thought his first two albums were stellar. The last two have been so-so (I bought the latest and will probably trade it in for something new). In terms of their live show, I think they are okay but I find myself drifting off every time I see them. I always hope it'll be better the next tour. They always seem to play full bore loud the entire time (most of the time) and it just becomes too much and just kind of all blurs together. I have no desire really to see them again (I saw them in 1995, 2000, 2005 and 2007 and I think I'm done). I will always respect Dave Grohl though. But, I definitely never considered them in the same realm of PJ.
Ditto. And yeah, they are lacking in dynamics, for one.
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I'm a fan of both bands and PJ wins hands down. Dave ignores the first album completly and that's their best work. I never even opened my copys of In Your Honer or Echos Silence Patience & Grace cuz it just seemed like generic crap. I never even bought Skin and Bones. I think Dave is really talented and wish they would go back to the sound of the first two records.
FOO FACTS
Dave Screams too much/ can't hit all the notes
Enough with the fucking cheesey videos
Pat Smear is back now?? 3 guitar players??
Their show is and hour and a half and thats all your gonna get!!
Let's see those 2013 dates in the southern states.
1. I'm glad Grohl got out of Nirvana. Foo Fighters > Nirvana without a doubt.
2. Who cares if he does mainstream events, etc.? What is this? 1991? Pearl Jam does all kinds of mainstream crap.
Just to clairfy: The first Foo album was solely written by Grohl. Skin & Bones is a live recording.
Yeah, he screams pretty excessively, overtop of whole lines of lyrics.
Another thing that's annoying is prior to the last couple of releases, he's declared to various media outlets, [not an actual quote, just paraphrasing from memory] "we're so thrilled about our new record. It's the biggest and best thing we've ever done. It's going to be remembered decades from now" kinda shit. He's not so humble anymore now that I think about it. I mean, it's cool to be proud of and pumped about your work and all, but yeah.
So based on your logic Pearl Jam sucked between 91-94, had no credibility, and the "jamily" at that point was no better than the teeny boppers of today. I'm not saying that PJ "whores themselves out" but to dismiss a band because of a)who likes them and b)their public visage is just ignorant.
Edit: On a nicer note, when was Grohl offered the PJ drum spot? I thought that was only the product of crazy stoned/drunk "What combo would you like to see most?" convos.
no pj didn't have that much cred before say 1995 (when they toured with neil young) that's true. But after that they built a career based on their fans, gutsy music that isn't going to be forgotten like the foo's will be. They released albums that were influenced by springsteen, young and the who.. When I heard the pretender I thought it was simple plan or something. I couldn't see the difference. The Foo Fighters wont ever be a pearl jam let alone a wilco, built to spil, mmj or radiohead. They can win all the grammys they like but they won't ever matter in music history like R.E.M. or springsteen.
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Just to clairfy: The first Foo album was solely written by Grohl. Skin & Bones is a live recording.
Yeah, he screams pretty excessively, overtop of whole lines of lyrics.
Another thing that's annoying is prior to the last couple of releases, he's declared to various media outlets, [not an actual quote, just paraphrasing from memory] "we're so thrilled about our new record. It's the biggest and best thing we've ever done. It's going to be remembered decades from now" kinda shit. He's not so humble anymore now that I think about it. I mean, it's cool to be proud of and pumped about your work and all, but yeah.
Yeah, it'd be nice to see them, at least once i a while, push themselves a little harder, I dunno.
grohl isn't humble at all. Jimmy Page and Keith Richards types are the only people who should be humble. Grohl needs to take a leaf out of ed's book.
I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.
Am I alone here?
to me it's a different style of Music
I will give you this Grohl is red hot and still got many years as a Rockstar
he's one of those guys who doesn't need a Band, like Ed, he could play with any 3 guys and it would kick ass
their last CD is my favorite, but I love the two new Videos / Songs off this CD
In my Opinion
1) Pearl Jam
2) STP
3) Nirvana
4) Ben Harper
5) The Mighty Foo
When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.
Am I alone here?
Hehe, well, i have not read the replies, but i doubt there would be too many here who agree with you , but that's ok, i guess if posted on the Foo Fighters message board that PJ were better, they would all let me know how incorrect i was
I've always been a Fooies fan, and live they are awesome. I've met Taylor and Dave just briefly after a concert and they were unbelievably down to earth and more than happy to accomodate the fans with pictures and chats. It was so damn hot that night, yet they didn't care.
While i do like the Foo fighters, I love Pearl Jam. That's about as simple as it gets for me.
When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.
Am I alone here?
yes.
nah, I appreciate what you're saying and I do love the Foo's but nothing beats PJ for me. Good point made about their professionalism though
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
I think having 6 Grammys devalues a band's credibility. j/k.
I don't own any Foo CDs but I have nothing bad to say about them.
All their songs just sounds the same to me. They haven't won me over yet.
But I'm not saying they're a bad band or anything, just not into them at all.
The Foo Fighters play the south! I know someone has already mentioned this. The last time PJ toured the closest they were 2 me was 8 hrs. The Foo's are playing 1hr15mins from my house. And, they had no problems selling out the venue at University of Arkansas.
I wish I were the verb "to trust" and never let you down
I LOVE the Foos! I listened to them when they first came out then stopped until about a year ago...I was missing out all that time! That is how it is sometimes though, I am just happy that I gave them a try again....And I think their new album is AMAZING!!!
I agree with what someone posted earlier in the thread...at least they tour more than PJ, especially here in the UK....twice in two years they've been to Manchester Evening News Arena....last time PJ came here it was 2000!! That's the only thing that pisses me off about PJ. But I might have to agree with the thread starter too. I'm listening to the Foo Fighters way more lately than Pearl Jam. Don't care if I'm in the minority there....I like what I like at this moment in time. Just feels PJ have dropped off the radar lately and the Foos are some what more available to me
Just had to chime in as I saw the FF last night (at the mighty Spectrum) for the first time since I started listening to them 13 yrs ago.
They rocked my ass off! Seriously.
So far, after 9 PJ shows and many other bands in between, this is the only band that's come close to putting on a show that damn good. I know the static setlist deal, and I wouldn't dream of following them around like I would PJ, but as an "Arena Rock Band" (as Dave kept calling them), they are fucking great!
And I think nukeboot nailed it with this:
When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.
Am I alone here?
They came up with the Pearl Jam formula. Have a keyboardist plus an extra percussion dude that does the same routine with his Triangle Solo every f'ing night and bringing back Pat Smear to play some acoustic songs and stuff off the new album.
When did they become a better band then Pearl Jam. Hate to say it but based on their last album and the Skin and bones album/tour before that they may just have surpassed PJ. The fact that they don't sweat playing the Grammy's, doing press, and making videos is also refreshing.
Am I alone here?
Im sorry but the last FF album wasnt great! Advacado was soooo much better. Even live pearl jam are a superior act. OK, PJ have become a bit anal in their old age but their work speaks for itself
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no pj didn't have that much cred before say 1995 (when they toured with neil young) that's true. But after that they built a career based on their fans, gutsy music that isn't going to be forgotten like the foo's will be. They released albums that were influenced by springsteen, young and the who.. When I heard the pretender I thought it was simple plan or something. I couldn't see the difference. The Foo Fighters wont ever be a pearl jam let alone a wilco, built to spil, mmj or radiohead. They can win all the grammys they like but they won't ever matter in music history like R.E.M. or springsteen.
Dude... Ten, Vs., Vitalogy. No cred? Are you sure you know who Pearl Jam is?
When Jesus said "Love your enemies" he probably didn't mean kill them...
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Go right ahead and watch the stupid grammys and buy right guard and order papa johns you consuming fool. Foo Fighters...Dave Grohl help with the break up of a much better band than Foo will ever be...Sunny Day Real Estate. Foo Fighters are ok don't get me wrong..but they'll never be more than ok. PJ has better things to do with their celebrity than playing the fucking pointless
Grammys where other stupid celebrities go to kiss each others ass.....with the mediocre at best Foo Fighters providing the sound track.
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Not sure if you're alone, but i'm not with ya.
IMHO, the Foo Fighters have turned into a really generic and predictable mainstream rock band. Sure they're are notch above most other bands out there, Good Charlotte, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco and so on...But their last three albums have been totally forgettable. Not the kind of thing that people will be revisiting in 10 years time and saying “wow this band was really good.” Riot Act is probably Pearl Jam’s most maligned album, not in my eye’s but most fan’s eye’s, yet it has so much more substance than anything the Foo’s have done since their self titled.
I guess they play the Grammy’s and do lots of press because they have become a part of the mainstream rock culture; it’s not really refreshing at all. It really isn’t anything new.
I mean Dave is writing songs about Courtney Love now. They are just so predictable.
Pearl jam eats them and spits them out, I’m sorry.
Go sell crazy some place else, we're all stocked up here.
Ditto. And yeah, they are lacking in dynamics, for one.
FOO FACTS
Dave Screams too much/ can't hit all the notes
Enough with the fucking cheesey videos
Pat Smear is back now?? 3 guitar players??
Their show is and hour and a half and thats all your gonna get!!
But...
1. I'm glad Grohl got out of Nirvana. Foo Fighters > Nirvana without a doubt.
2. Who cares if he does mainstream events, etc.? What is this? 1991? Pearl Jam does all kinds of mainstream crap.
Yeah, he screams pretty excessively, overtop of whole lines of lyrics.
Another thing that's annoying is prior to the last couple of releases, he's declared to various media outlets, [not an actual quote, just paraphrasing from memory] "we're so thrilled about our new record. It's the biggest and best thing we've ever done. It's going to be remembered decades from now" kinda shit. He's not so humble anymore now that I think about it. I mean, it's cool to be proud of and pumped about your work and all, but yeah.
Yeah, it'd be nice to see them, at least once i a while, push themselves a little harder, I dunno.
no pj didn't have that much cred before say 1995 (when they toured with neil young) that's true. But after that they built a career based on their fans, gutsy music that isn't going to be forgotten like the foo's will be. They released albums that were influenced by springsteen, young and the who.. When I heard the pretender I thought it was simple plan or something. I couldn't see the difference. The Foo Fighters wont ever be a pearl jam let alone a wilco, built to spil, mmj or radiohead. They can win all the grammys they like but they won't ever matter in music history like R.E.M. or springsteen.
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
grohl isn't humble at all. Jimmy Page and Keith Richards types are the only people who should be humble. Grohl needs to take a leaf out of ed's book.
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
to me it's a different style of Music
I will give you this Grohl is red hot and still got many years as a Rockstar
he's one of those guys who doesn't need a Band, like Ed, he could play with any 3 guys and it would kick ass
their last CD is my favorite, but I love the two new Videos / Songs off this CD
In my Opinion
1) Pearl Jam
2) STP
3) Nirvana
4) Ben Harper
5) The Mighty Foo
ps: still that's awesome company to be in
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I've always been a Fooies fan, and live they are awesome. I've met Taylor and Dave just briefly after a concert and they were unbelievably down to earth and more than happy to accomodate the fans with pictures and chats. It was so damn hot that night, yet they didn't care.
While i do like the Foo fighters, I love Pearl Jam. That's about as simple as it gets for me.
He talks about him like he's the messiah! Don't think so Dave just a Stewart Copeland wannabe.
yes.
nah, I appreciate what you're saying and I do love the Foo's but nothing beats PJ for me. Good point made about their professionalism though
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
I don't own any Foo CDs but I have nothing bad to say about them.
All their songs just sounds the same to me. They haven't won me over yet.
But I'm not saying they're a bad band or anything, just not into them at all.
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My 2 favorite bands hands down. So no you are not alone here. Foo Fighters in concert, rock your ass!
Pearl Jam has a lot more nostalgia and meaning to their music to me. They rock too but in an entirely different way.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
And we have alot of time left in 2008 still. So just relax.
Foo Fighters are a great band but not even close to PJ in my book.
Manchester 4/6/00
They rocked my ass off! Seriously.
So far, after 9 PJ shows and many other bands in between, this is the only band that's come close to putting on a show that damn good. I know the static setlist deal, and I wouldn't dream of following them around like I would PJ, but as an "Arena Rock Band" (as Dave kept calling them), they are fucking great!
And I think nukeboot nailed it with this:
They came up with the Pearl Jam formula. Have a keyboardist plus an extra percussion dude that does the same routine with his Triangle Solo every f'ing night and bringing back Pat Smear to play some acoustic songs and stuff off the new album.
Destroying DC Scum.
Reading 2006 - WOOOOW!!!!!
Paris 2006 - Fucking amazing
Wembley 2007
Im sorry but the last FF album wasnt great! Advacado was soooo much better. Even live pearl jam are a superior act. OK, PJ have become a bit anal in their old age but their work speaks for itself
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Dude... Ten, Vs., Vitalogy. No cred? Are you sure you know who Pearl Jam is?
"Sometimes I think I'd be better off dead. No, wait, not me, you." -Deep Toughts, Jack Handy
ps. I do love the foo's though
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Grammys where other stupid celebrities go to kiss each others ass.....with the mediocre at best Foo Fighters providing the sound track.